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Topic review - Trumpeter 1/200 USS Missouri Build Log (Sept 2015 - ?????)
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  Post subject:  Re: Trumpeter 1/200 USS Missouri Build Log (Sept 2015 - ????  Reply with quote
Very nicely done.

Nobody can speak ill of that which you've accomplished. That is such a massive feat, and you deserve 'kudos' and recognition. I like the level of detail that you've done, and even moreso your attitude of 'how can I make this better'? You've done well!

Sean
Post Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2022 1:09 am
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Wow! Jaw dropping! :woo_hoo:
I love the many vignettes taking place in different locations on the ship. You did an amazing work. All my sympathy for enduring and completing such a long time project, your own way, without giving up. Way to go!

SG
Post Posted: Sun May 15, 2022 4:36 am
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Thanks, gentlemen! Much appreciated! Tom, you asked where the figures came from Trumpeter makes two sets - a WW2 US Navy figures set, and a WW2 US Military Accepted Surrender Ceremony.

The US Navy set has 60 figures - 10 each of 6 different characters. The surrender ceremony has the same as the Navy characters plus 10 Japanese characters plus some PE (table, chairs, & Mike stand. On this ship I uses 6 sets of the US Navy figures plus 1 set of the Japanese surrender. What makes mine look so varied is the different ways I painted them. The picture is from Sprue Bros web site.
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Post Posted: Sat May 14, 2022 7:26 pm
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Timothyo wrote:
I really don't know who would have the gall to insult your build, but I bet they are all outliers on the statistical scales........ I think this is a gorgeous model that I would be very proud of! So glad you are back and showing progress. COVID sucks......

Regards,
Timothy

Somehow I missed the post where you said people were giving you sh*t in private messages. F**k those people. I agree with Timothy here, and am glad you persevered and kept sharing photos with us.

Very, very nicely done. Congratulations - she looks great!
Post Posted: Sat May 14, 2022 9:10 am
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That's a first-class build. Very nice. :thumbs_up_1:
Post Posted: Thu May 12, 2022 8:26 pm
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Larry,

Excellent job - quite a unique rendition of the VJ Ceremony - I don't think I've seen another model done this way. Your model has turned out extremely well - kudos all the way around!! I like the way you did your case also - very much like mine. Yes, it's nice to be able to sit back and enjoy many years of effort!!!!

Hank
Post Posted: Thu May 12, 2022 7:38 am
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Congratulations on completing a long construction. Funny that our ship models usually take longer to construct than the originals. I put some 1/120 figures on my ships, that I scaled from some 1/35 figures. Where did you get your variety of figurines?

Cheers. Tom
Post Posted: Wed May 11, 2022 10:06 pm
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OK, Here's the last 4:

The ship now rests under a Plexiglas enclosure where I don't intend to touch it for quite some time. It seems like every time I even look at the boat, I break something off. It is an extremely fragile model.
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And naturally, I have to toot my own horn just a little:
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OK, folks, that's it. I wish I would have kept track of the hours I have in this. I'm not sure I even want to know the dollars I've spent on it. But, all in all, it's been a really enjoyable build and I've learned a tremendous amount in the process. Would I tackle it again? Probably not unless some dude offered me $10.000 to build one for him. It was a huge job!

So, what's my next project? I'm not exactly sure. I do know that I don't want something nearly as complex as this was. It's time for simplicity!!! Actually, I'm trying to decide on one of two kits, either Tamaya's F-15E Strike Eagle or the Meng M911C Heavy Equipment Transport. I'm done with ships for a while!!
Post Posted: Wed May 11, 2022 12:21 pm
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Here's the next 10:

I gotta say that for a battle wagon, there's a LOT of rigging on this monster. I probably don't have the exact layout, but it's close. And besides some of you rivet counters, who's gonna know??
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People all over this ship! Some sailors have to work regardless of the historic event taking place down below.
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Lots of activity everywhere! The red flag at the very top with 5 white stars indicates a 5 star general (Douglas MacArthur) is on board.
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All sorts of activity here too. There's always work to be done when you're on a warship at sea.
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Some kind of a discussion going on here. Wonder what it's all about? Some sailor do something wrong?
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Some workers starting to do some work on seaplane #11. Or at least they're standing there thinking about it.
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Most of the crew, though, are at the surrender ceremony.
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According to a book I have, the table is one from the galley and the crew threw a green tablecloth over it to hide it. The tablecloth is actually a piece of tissue painted with glue and then green paint. The three signature documents are tiny pieces of Evergreen plastic strip.
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General MacArthur is at the microphone stand while the Japanese delegation is standing off to the right. The viewing platform in the foreground is scratch built. I don't think you can see it, but there are two cameras on tripods on the viewing platform; a video camera and a still frame camera. They are in front of the two sailors in blue. These are also scratch built.
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In this picture I placed a US quarter to show the relative size of the sailors and officers. They're damn small!! Would you believe that every one of these people were the grey color of raw plastic.
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OK, there are 4 more pictures. Next post coming up!
Post Posted: Wed May 11, 2022 12:12 pm
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OK, Here's another 10:
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OK, now you can start to see some of the crew. They are so small that you have to get in fairly close in order to make them out.
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You do know that the Japanese surrendered on the deck of the USS Missouri in 1945. Trumpeter has issued a surrender kit that simulates this event. I have tried to duplicate this as best I could.
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More of the crew and officers. Sure are a lot of them (I ought to know - I painted every damn one!)
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Here's a closer shot of the surrender site. You can see people sitting or standing everywhere to watch the ceremony.
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Here's more of the crew and some of the rigging.
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Here's more crew and more rigging. I used EZ-Line for the rigging. That stuff is fabulous. I love it!! It has a slight stretch to it, but doesn't bend the mast.
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More pictures on next post:
Post Posted: Wed May 11, 2022 11:55 am
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Kind of a toss-up to know where to post this. If the moderators don't like it here, they can move it to the completed section.

THIS SHIP IS FINALLY DONE!!

That's right, friends, this beast is finally finished! After umpteen years, even more $$$, and lots of cussing (+ many bottles of vino!) I can call it finished. The last thing I had to do was paint 368 little people, approx 1/3" tall (360 sailors and officers + 8 Japanese). You wanna know what a pain in the butt that was! Especially the neckerchiefs the sailors wore! By the time I did all that, and positioned them in somewhat resembling a realistic manner, I was more than ready for this thing to be done. So, gang, let's take a look at the final project, shall we?

Here is the entire ship. You can't see a lot of detail in this shot. Be patient, we'll get there.
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In case you've forgotten, I elected to mount the ship on simulated keel blocks similar to how they were when the ship was in drydock. I thought it looked nicer than mounting it on a couple brass pedestals.
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This next photo shows a yardstick alongside the ship. The model is 53" long overall. It's a big sucker! And yes, if you look close, you can see some of the crew.
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Here's a bow-on shot. You might be interested to know there are 4395 individual pieces of brass PE making up this ship. This is from the two Pontos detail kits, various Eduard sets, and the PE that came with the ship. As I finished a subassembly, I listed the parts on an Excel spreadsheet. (Yeah, call me anal!). In case you're interested, the modal contains 6754 discrete parts: 1325 plastic pieces; 730 resin parts, and 305 other misc parts, aside from the PE.
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You have seen similar shots, but in case you forgot, here are a few pictures of the starboard side. I'm not showing port side photos as the ship is mostly the same on both sides. You can start to see the little sailors walking around.
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I don't think you've seen the boarding ladders. There's one on either side.
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Kinda hard to see all the people, but we'll get closer in a little while
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Post Posted: Wed May 11, 2022 11:40 am
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Larry,

You've done an outstanding job!!! I wish I had thought of those open doors back when NEW JERSEY was in the shipyard :doh_1: I've sort of done the same thing here n there on my current build.

Great job!!!

Hank
Post Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2021 9:06 pm
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Greetings, Peoples,

I figure it's about time to share a few more pictures of my plastic toy boat. So, here we go:

This shot shows gas bottles, hose reels, life rafts, fire suppression equipment and again, my feeble attempt at making a Stokes litter. I painted the area behind the air intake grills black to make them stand out better.

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A few places on the ship I opened up the hatchways for a little more realism. You can see where a 20mm AA gun mounts here and also the ammunition racks that are mounted on the inside of the 40mm gun tub. Those of you who built or are building this ship know what a pain these can be!

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Here's a close up of the oars and the tie downs I added to the life rafts. Gives a little added realism to the ship.

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Now we're on the port side working our way up toward the bow. Pretty much the same as on the starboard side.

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The kit doesn't mention it, but my plans show a rack mounted here containing refueling hoses. So, thanks to Evergreen shapes, we now have said rack, complete with hoses.

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Working our way forward on the port side of the ship.

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The ladder on that last photo looks really beat up. Yes, I have replaced it since this photo was taken.
Post Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2021 7:38 pm
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Looks good Larry! At least you have the great benefit of considerable patience (which I lack). Good job on the base and case, something which I have yet to build for any model. One has no idea what the drive by viewers think. I've had some 15,000 views of my APA and only about a half dozen people who comment. Maybe in my case it's a matter of "if you can't say something nice...". I've been going back and replacing a lot of earlier home made parts with newer and better home made parts on Alaska and Missouri in 1:192. I've even replaced some commercial parts!

Keep plugging away! Very nice cumulative work! Tom
Post Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2021 12:55 pm
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Seriously, people gave you grief for the level of your work?! That's not right... I see nothing to be ashamed of and a lot to admire. Your build is top tier!

Haters gonna hate I guess... I get it from time to time too. Such is the interwebs... too many trolls in the world.

But hey, maybe we can bring back old times now that we're both back building our 1/200 monsters! :wave_1:
Post Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2021 11:32 pm
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Larry,

I'll have to check out in the shop and I'll let you know tomorrow. I have (I think) 3 sizes...maybe 2 sizes??? :doh_1: - in any event I'll reply tomorrow after I check.

Hank
Post Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:25 pm
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Thanks, Hank, and you too, Tim! I appreciate the vote of confidence - and, the boost to my ego. :thanks: It's guys like you who made me decide to come back and bore you with my "mediocre" attempts at model building. No, let's be honest, I'll never be as good as some of the guys here. Their talent blows me away, especially the folks who add so much detail to those 1:350 scale kits. My fingers are way too fat and my eyesight is way too bad to even begin to match that kind of perfection. But, I'm having fun, I'm learning a boatload of new stuff, and, I like what I've done so far. If I ever decided to tackle one of these monster man-killers again, I undoubtedly will do a much better job.

However, I've decided to go over to the dark side on my next build. Yes, I'm going to tackle an airplane!! :huh: :Mad_6: :sorry: I have a 1:32 model of the Trumpeter F-14D Super Tomcat with about $250 worth of 3rd party add-on parts that I'm going to play with next. Not a whole lot of added detail to dress it up with, but I am going to try to expand my painting abilities. Not sure I'll try weathering just yet, I'm one of those guys who thinks the F-14 is too beautiful an aircraft to muck it all up with dirt and grime.

But not to worry, I've still got a long way to go on this ship. I have 300 sailors and officers that has to be painted and added to the decks of the ship. Plus, I am in the process of going back and trying to correct some of the blunders I made earlier on, and, let's not forget all the rigging there is on this blasted boat. :Mad_5: Which reminds me, Hank: What size EZ-Line did you use when you rigged your New Jersey? I bought some of each, thinking that the thin (.02") would be best because it would represent 4" rope at 1:200. However, when trying a sample, it's so fine you can hardly see the stuff. The heavy (.04") looks better, but it's not protypical. What did you use on your battlewagon? :scratch:

Laters, Gents
Post Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2021 8:23 pm
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Larry,

1st - You D Man!!! I'm glad you posted your feelings - I sometimes feel the same thing - either they complain, or as is the current case on my DD build, they visit and don't leave any message or comments - that's to me just as frustrating as the complainers. Anyhow, BRAVO for speaking up!!! :thumbs_up_1: :thumbs_up_1: :thumbs_up_1:

Now, you need to STOP adding so much detail - You're Killing Me!!!!! :big_grin:

Your build is excellent, Mein Freund, keep it up!!!

Hank
Post Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2021 7:24 pm
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I really don't know who would have the gall to insult your build, but I bet they are all outliers on the statistical scales........ I think this is a gorgeous model that I would be very proud of! So glad you are back and showing progress. COVID sucks......

Regards,
Timothy
Post Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2021 5:59 pm
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Greetings and salutations, Friends,

Yep, that's right, it's been close to a year since I last posted here. To be honest, I thought long and hard about even making this post, but I finally decided to go ahead and do it. The reason for all this?? Well, it seems that I got some private messages from a couple individuals who for whatever reason decided to take issue with my abilities, or lack thereof, as a model builder. For a number of reasons, the beginning of the COVID pandemic, my mental health at the time, and the efforts I was putting into this ship, I took offense at these "rivet counters" and their "I don't know why you have the gall to post on this site" attitude and decided that I would do just that and stop posting here. Instead, I joined a Facebook group called "Mediocre Modeler's", which apparently was more my style. However, I still visited this site daily and continued to communicate with several of my closest friends here.

Recently, I guess I've mellowed some and learned to put on my "Big Girl Panties" and not let the opinions of a few upset me. I'm building this ship for ME! No one else, and if they have a problem with that, tough! No, it's not perfect. Far from it. I've made lots of mistakes and also learned a ton. But I've had fun and if you look at this ship from a couple feet away, especially when it's in the case, I think it looks pretty damn nice - at least my fellow "Mediocre Modeler's" think so!

So, I decided to bring you up to date with this build and show you what I've done and why I've done it during the past year. I've got probably close to 100 pictures to post, which I'll try to do over the next few days. No, it's not quite done yet. It's getting there - I'm maybe 85% done and yes, it's starting to look like a battleship. I still don't get a chance to work on it as much as I want; I'm still married to SWMBO (She Who Must Be Obeyed) and I still own a house, which takes a lot of time and money! Plus, I'm now 78 years old and don't get around as fast as I used to. In addition to my 2 knee replacements, I had a hip replacement last June and yes, I've had both my COVID vaccination shots, so I'm hoping I'm good for however long it takes to finish this beast!

So, with all that jabbering, I suppose you want to see some pictures of my 'Monster Mo". OK, Here's the first 10 shots.

When I last left off, I was starting the second deck of the superstructure, starting to add the portholes, eyebrows, and grab irons from the Pontos Detail kit. For those of you who don't remember, here is what the Pontos detail kit looks like.

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It consists of a wood deck, 299 pieces of turned brass, 18 sheets of Photo Etch, 33 resin parts, and 16 round life preservers. It's an awesome kit and well worth the money.

I'm building this ship from the bottom up, so the next step involves adding decks 2 and 3 and the associated detail that goes with them.

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As you can see in the following picture, I added some detail to the life rafts. I took Evergreen plastic rod, cut it to length, and squeezed one end flat to simulate oars. I then also tied the stack of rafts down with fine wire to make things look more realistic.

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Here is more added detail to the ship. Note that the superstructure is not yet glued down to the deck, resulting in a slight gap. The net baskets have fine fabric (called Toule) rolled up in the bottom and small pieces of plastic rod painted brown on top. The triangular protrusions on the conning tower and below the windows are antenna lead-in for when I attach the rigging to. Also note that I added windscreen wipers where they were found. The one turned out OK, but the rear one not so good. I since have replaced it with a better one. And oh yeah, there's a rack to hold spare stanchions at the base of the conning tower. The Floating Drydock plans I have indicate this is present.

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Here's a closer view of the life rafts as well as a mop rack. Hey, they look like mops, don't they? If you use your imagination??

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This next view shows the various compressed gas bottles that were carried aboard the Missouri during WWII. The ones with a green top are Oxygen and the short, stubby ones with grey tops & a red stripe are acetylene. Also shown are the spare gun barrel tubes attached to the outside of the splinter shield of the level 3 20mm gun position.

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If you look just inside the passageway between the port and starboard sides of the ship, you will see a rack of compressed cylinders of propane secured to the wall. Just more detail that my TFD plans show.

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According to the plans, there is a spare seaplane float secured to the deck at this position. I had to buy a box of (5)Kingfisher seaplanes to get this extra float! Here also, you can see my first feeble attempt at making Stokes Litters. Needless to say, they probably rate a C- at best. Later on, you will see I replaced these with ones that are much better!

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OK, I guess that my limit of 10 pictures per post is reached, so I'll post this and, hopefully, I'll get another set posted shortly. And, let me say this: I WILL accept constructive criticism. In fact I welcome it. But, if you're going to PM me just to gripe and tell me I suck, then you can kiss my ass. Like I said, I'm building this for ME, and while I would prefer that you appreciate my efforts, I really don't give a rat's ass if you do or don't.

Laters, Friends.
Post Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2021 5:53 pm

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