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Topic review - Carrier Builders Yard, whats on the Slipway
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Hi Red,

I have Dan at Out of the Box doing a flight deck for Ranger. I think that he hit a snag in available data. Hope the America deck is coming along. I plan on doing America in 1/700 scale.

MM
Post Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2018 9:23 am
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Trying to finish both BigE and America at the same. I know that is not going to happened. But that is my goal.
Post Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2018 5:47 pm
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Image CVA-62 Indy
Post Posted: Mon May 14, 2018 3:40 pm
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Indy on hold until I get the America flightdeck. That's because I would use the same company to make Indy flight deck.
Post Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2018 1:49 pm
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Well I'm back.

I've gone and got the Arii 1/800 New Enterprise and I can conform that the post refit island is indeed 1/720 scale.
Or at least, it measures the same as the old Revell 1/720 Island.

All the refit parts are on a separate sprue, and even if some might be too small to put on the Revell kit, at least they help to figure out what the add-ons should look like. I'll probably use them as-is however, maybe just shim the sides of the sponsons with some plastic card. With Starfighter decals and resin Hangar bits I can now rebuild my 30-odd year old model as post refit after the dogs decided to try to sink her. I have a newer issue kit to be built as well. So I'll still have one with beehive....

All the old style island parts are still in the Arii 1/800 box, bar one. The base square that all the panels are glued onto, so you still can't build it without some scratchbuilding.

Never mind. I bought it for parts anyway.
I see Trumpy are planning a 1/700 CV-67, any idea when that will be out?
Post Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 8:24 pm
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Image Image Image Image More updates on the America thread.
Post Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 10:56 pm
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Hi all

After finishing my Tamiya 1/48 scale Tomcat I started working on my 1/350 Hancock again. It is meant to be an August 1945 version which is causing me quite some trouble due to an extremly bad resource situation. In addition to that the Trumpeter Tico kit I have leaves a lot to desire. It's rather basic and also requires a lot of putty and sanding.

cheers
Uwe
Post Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 6:37 pm
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Once everything is settle after Christmas. Then I will start on my last Supercarrier CVA-62 Independence.She will be in 1966-1967 time. This will be my hardest project. The Trump Kitty Hawk hull is correct from the bottom to the hangar deck area. That hangar area has to be removed and rebuilt so that it would look like Forrestal class hull. The island very kindly made by Steve of ModelMonkey. Thanks again for that. That helps out a whole lot. So my Tonkin Gulf fleet continue to grow. Happy New Year Everyone! !!! :wave_1:
Post Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2017 9:20 pm
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The 'yard always works better when I have a deadline to work for so I promised to take Melbourne to ESM in Houten last saturday. I also decided to take my not-started-yet HMS Glory with me in order to show where I started some years ago and Victorious also had to come along for the outing.
Melbourne is not fully finished yet as i still have to scratchbuild a crash crane but the airgroup is on. I went for a mid-60s airgroup, launching Fairey Gannets with a deck park containing Sea Venoms and Wessex helicopters while preparing to refuel one of her escorts. Its the kind of scene cold war era photographers seem to have been fond of though one wonders about the risk of doing both operations at the same time in a real war situation.
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I could not resist showing one Gannet unfolding itself so it looked like a....gannet.
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Fairey names seems to have been related to the looks of the aircraft though there are exceptions (swordfish anyone?). For the escort I was planning to do one of the anzac class destroyers and layed out the water base to do this but I found out that both of them were no longer serving as escorts by the mid-60s. So I took a deep breath and took the plunge... HMS Aisne is a somewhat radical conversion of a HP models Agincourt to a radar picket. Aisne arrived at the show with only half her type 965 radar. Luckily I found the other half and its glued on again.
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Post Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2017 2:46 pm
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:big_grin: :big_grin: :big_grin:
Post Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2017 1:36 pm
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Love that Kearsarge.
Post Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2017 12:02 pm
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Nice builds Mark! :thumbs_up_1: :thumbs_up_1:
Post Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2017 9:40 pm
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Here is the SCB-27A Kearsarge. This is a 1/350 Trumpeter Ticonderoga CV-14 Kit with the Iron Shipwright SCB-27A resin update set. I did the blisters by adding styrene sheets to the sides and blending them in. It still needs a lot of work. The Island is from Model Monkey 3D Printing. The aircraft are L'arsenal Spads, Panthers, and Banshee's. Trumpeter Corsairs and a 3D Printed AJ-1 Savage.


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Post Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2017 8:21 pm
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Here are a few shots of the JFK with CVW-1 1969. I had to do a lot of modifying on the Island to return it to the original configuration. The Hanger Bay was scratch built with a lot of 3D Printed equipment from Greg at Bacon Fist Models.


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Post Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2017 8:16 pm
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kidcurrie42 wrote:
Seems like you lot are all busy on your Carriers, I am working on a Conversion of the Revell C3 Freighter Hawaiian Pilot into the USS Tangier AV-8 Seaplane tender, then I can hopefully get back on track with a real Carrier build.

Happy Modeling

John

Hey John good hearing from you! Looking forward on your coming builds! :thumbs_up_1:
Post Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2017 10:36 pm
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Edward Wilson wrote:
Steve-
I've been procrastinating on my Tamiya CVN-65 build because of the hanger (Which Greg just solved!) and than bloody lower hull. I spent 6 years on that ship, including 3 months scraping Rad_Con samples off the hull, and that stern shape makes me crazy! I was going to cut the stern off (below the waterline) and rib and skin with styrene to fix it, but a 3D printed insert would be awesome and worth the cost I think.

Hi Ed and thanks for your service and your comments!

I'm afraid a 3D-printed hull correction is not practical for a number of reasons. Most importantly for the modeler, the area needing replacement would be quite large (maybe too big for most printers) making the part prohibitively expensive to print, perhaps twice the cost of the Tamiya kit (or more). The cost to print it would be so high that no one could/would buy it.

But that's just the cost to print it. Then there is the cost to design it, which would have to be added on.

For the designer, creating parts to match plastic kit hull sections is technically very difficult, costly and time consuming. To design a part with compound curves that would match the kit's hull's compound curves, the part would likely have to be designed iteratively. In other words, an expensive donor Tamiya kit gets cut up, the curves are measured, and a new part is designed to fit and printed based on those measurements. Then the new 3D-printed part (paid for by the designer) gets test-fit to the kit hull which will be a close fit but not quite match. The CAD design is then tweaked to produce a second part that fits better. Then, 3D-printed part version 2.0 is printed (paid for by the designer) and the process repeats until a perfect match is achieved. This process becomes extremely costly for the designer, not only in buying the test pieces and the donor kit, but also the time to design it (time=money). The cost of design time for such an effort would likely dwarf the cost to print it. All of that design time, the test pieces and the donor kit has to be paid for. So those costs would have to be passed on to potential customers or eaten by the designer and his family.

I'm afraid that once a kit manufacturer pooches a hull, 3D generally cannot fix it in a practical or affordable way.

For my Tamiya kit, if I decide to correct the hull, it will be a scratch-building project, one that has its own issues and challenges. Not sure yet whether that is worth it. But that hull bugs me - the proverbial itch that requires a scratch.
Post Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2017 9:56 am
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Seems like you lot are all busy on your Carriers, I am working on a Conversion of the Revell C3 Freighter Hawaiian Pilot into the USS Tangier AV-8 Seaplane tender, then I can hopefully get back on track with a real Carrier build.

Happy Modeling

John
Post Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2017 12:08 am
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Steve-
I've been procrastinating on my Tamiya CVN-65 build because of the hanger (Which Greg just solved!) and than bloody lower hull. I spent 6 years on that ship, including 3 months scraping Rad_Con samples off the hull, and that stern shape makes me crazy! I was going to cut the stern off (below the waterline) and rib and skin with styrene to fix it, but a 3D printed insert would be awesome and worth the cost I think.
Post Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2017 7:59 pm
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Well guys the work on the carriers is most outstanding, as for doing multiple builds I love doing that when I am working in 700, works best for me when I am working with general PE and I'm building mirror image ships. Now, when working in 350 I've not tried the multiple build process but might give it a world when I move into the new house and have access to all my materials and ships. I think though if I where to do a multiple build it would be a couple of battleships or something of that nature. I think I would loose my mind doing two supercarriers at the same time.
Post Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2017 5:32 pm
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Pieter wrote:
Mark, you seem to be doing the same as Walter of IPMS-NL's warships in 1/350 group. So for carriers multiple parallel builds seems to be the rule rather than the exception.



Well, I have the attention span of a kitten so I jump back and forth between them. I do not think that it is the efficient way to go but it is a way.
Post Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2017 5:12 pm

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