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Re: Tender "AVOS" 1806 - 1/72 (MasterKorabel) |
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Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2018 1:04 am |
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An attractive model ! and built in a crisp and sharp manner-- no filler and paint! JB
An attractive model ! :thumbs_up_1: :thumbs_up_1:
and built in a crisp and sharp manner-- no filler and paint!
:wave_1: JB
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Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2018 2:31 pm |
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Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2018 1:00 pm |
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Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2018 12:52 pm |
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This looks indeed like a nice kit.
One thing makes me wonder though: why did you take an 1832 lines plan to represent an 1806 vessel ? OK, the technical evolution was slower 200 years ago than it is today, but to my knowledge there would have been plenty of lines plans of British, Danish and Swedish naval/revenue/postal cutters/smacks of the early 19th century to draw upon.
This looks indeed like a nice kit.
One thing makes me wonder though: why did you take an 1832 lines plan to represent an 1806 vessel ? OK, the technical evolution was slower 200 years ago than it is today, but to my knowledge there would have been plenty of lines plans of British, Danish and Swedish naval/revenue/postal cutters/smacks of the early 19th century to draw upon.
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Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2018 3:26 am |
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Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2018 4:08 pm |
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Bravo-- very fine woodwork on the planking-- especially the tapeering at the bow and stern JIM B
Bravo-- very fine woodwork on the planking-- especially the tapeering at the bow and stern
:thumbs_up_1: :thumbs_up_1:
JIM B :wave_1:
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Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2018 1:16 pm |
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Thank you! According to the books on shipbuilding in Russia, Russian tenders could have clinker-built, and maybe not. There is a choice - without clinker
Thank you! According to the books on shipbuilding in Russia, Russian tenders could have clinker-built, and maybe not. There is a choice - without clinker
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Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2018 12:15 pm |
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So basically it is a fairly standard cutter in the British style. They are very lovely little ships, I built the Caldercraft model of HMS Sherbourne once, she is very similar although much older. I notice yours is not clinker-built, unlike the earlier ones. You are doing good work on the model.
So basically it is a fairly standard cutter in the British style. They are very lovely little ships, I built the Caldercraft model of HMS Sherbourne once, she is very similar although much older. I notice yours is not clinker-built, unlike the earlier ones. You are doing good work on the model.
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Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2018 12:02 pm |
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Joe Simon wrote: Very nice work! Joe Simon, many thanks!
[quote="Joe Simon"]Very nice work![/quote]
Joe Simon, many thanks!
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Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2018 8:07 am |
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Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2018 8:06 am |
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Hello, Bouncy70! Unfortunately, archival drawings of the tender "Avos" not preserved. But the Russian tenders are very similar to the English tenders. Russian shipbuilders used the English school. Therefore, designers took as a basis one of the drawings from National Maritime Museum (Greenwich). In the basis - is "Arrow" (1823), a 10-gun single-masted cutter, as designed and built by Captain Hayes. Similar drawings are available in Russian archives, according to the design of tenders. Centuries later, the main parameters of the tender "AVOS": length, width, depth reached us. Also known from archival data are the dimensions of the mast and sails. Attachment:
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Tender "AVOS" was smaller in size than the "prototype" as "Arrow". This drawing has undergone a change in length and width to match the basic dimensions of the tender "AVOS". As a result, the basis for a new theory and new circuits of hull. In short, thisis a complete reconstruction of designers "MasterKorabel" But the model has full compliance with the design of tenders of the early 19th century. Attachment:
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Hello, Bouncy70!
Unfortunately, archival drawings of the tender "Avos" not preserved.
But the Russian tenders are very similar to the English tenders. Russian shipbuilders used the English school. Therefore, designers took as a basis one of the drawings from National Maritime Museum (Greenwich). In the basis - is "Arrow" (1823), a 10-gun single-masted cutter, as designed and built by Captain Hayes. Similar drawings are available in Russian archives, according to the design of tenders.
Centuries later, the main parameters of the tender "AVOS": length, width, depth reached us. Also known from archival data are the dimensions of the mast and sails.
[attachment=1]tender.jpg[/attachment]
Tender "AVOS" was smaller in size than the "prototype" as "Arrow". This drawing has undergone a change in length and width to match the basic dimensions of the tender "AVOS". As a result, the basis for a new theory and new circuits of hull. In short, thisis a complete reconstruction of designers "MasterKorabel" But the model has full compliance with the design of tenders of the early 19th century. [attachment=0]tender3.jpg[/attachment]
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Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2018 8:02 am |
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Very nice work!
Very nice work!
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Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2018 10:10 pm |
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An interesting kit, although I have some ideological problems with making a model of a ship based on so very little in the way of source material - the result may or may not look anything like the original. It's a bit like trying to make a model of Bismarck knowing that she had a pointy bow and eight main guns and nothing more. But, that is a different matter and it has never stopped anyone from making a "model" of the Santa Maria...
I really like the framing, very dense just like the original. It certainly gives you better control of the shape of the hull, and should make planking easier. Speaking of planking, you have done a superb job there, very sweet indeed! It will be interesting to follow your progress.
An interesting kit, although I have some ideological problems with making a model of a ship based on so very little in the way of source material - the result may or may not look anything like the original. It's a bit like trying to make a model of Bismarck knowing that she had a pointy bow and eight main guns and nothing more. But, that is a different matter and it has never stopped anyone from making a "model" of the Santa Maria...
I really like the framing, very dense just like the original. It certainly gives you better control of the shape of the hull, and should make planking easier. Speaking of planking, you have done a superb job there, very sweet indeed! It will be interesting to follow your progress.
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Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2018 6:29 pm |
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Hello, Bouncy70! It is done in all kits of "MasterKorabel" more photos of the model Attachment:
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Hello, Bouncy70! It is done in all kits of "MasterKorabel"
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Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2018 9:35 am |
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Plank on bulkhead with a waterline plate in the middle? That's a novel approach.
Plank on bulkhead with a waterline plate in the middle? That's a novel approach.
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Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2018 8:07 am |
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I continue to post pictures of the assembly of the model of the tender "AVOS"
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Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2018 2:21 am |
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Good afternoon, colleagues! I bring to your attention woodenkit tender "AVOS" (MasterKorabel). Scale 1/72 The tender "AVOS" (in russian тендер "Авось") is the first ship of the Russian-American Company that was built in Alaska in Novo-Arkhangelsk in 1806 (now is Sitka, USA) The total length - 42 cm Artilerry: 8 guns - 3 pound. Briefly, "Avos" is known from the travels of naval officers GI. Davydova and N.A. Khvostov, the development of Russian Alaska, and all the famous rock opera "Juno and Avos". This is the only historical image of the tender "Avos" on the watercolor of the 19th century Attachment:
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Good afternoon, colleagues!
I bring to your attention woodenkit tender "AVOS" (MasterKorabel). Scale 1/72
The tender "AVOS" (in russian тендер "Авось") is the first ship of the Russian-American Company that was built in Alaska in Novo-Arkhangelsk in 1806 (now is Sitka, USA) The total length - 42 cm Artilerry: 8 guns - 3 pound.
Briefly, "Avos" is known from the travels of naval officers GI. Davydova and N.A. Khvostov, the development of Russian Alaska, and all the famous rock opera "Juno and Avos". This is the only historical image of the tender "Avos" on the watercolor of the 19th century
[attachment=0]555.jpg[/attachment] And I begin to show how the kit was going to... [attachment=5]0001.jpg[/attachment] [attachment=3]0002.jpg[/attachment] [attachment=2]0003.jpg[/attachment] [attachment=1]0004.jpg[/attachment][attachment=4]0005.jpg[/attachment]
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Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2018 4:13 am |
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