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Topic review - 1/350 Iron Shipwrights Orion
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Short update ,almost done with the deck ,I am glad the damage to the surface is covered and the aft superstructure looks fine IMHO.
Post Posted: Sat Aug 24, 2019 5:30 am
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Gentlemen thank you very much for your kind comments .

Now after a painting session ,she is starting to look more like a BBssB, still lots of works ahead,next will be the black boot and as previously said the wood deck,from there uphill to assemble all the missing parts ,believe me there are lots of aftermarket stuff to add to this models.


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Post Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2019 10:08 am
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Looks great Miguel!
Post Posted: Sun Jun 02, 2019 9:48 pm
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Nice update, Miguel. I really like the torpedo net booms. Look forward to seeing more!
Post Posted: Sun Jun 02, 2019 2:53 pm
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Stalled this project,but now I am getting again on it ,not an excuse but when you stop this kind of peculiar kits ,is a bit hard to be on mood to continue,well now I will start in the full paint job and the deck will be very challenging since lost a lot of detail when I cut the aft superstructure , now will try to do some restoration,so next pictures is some initial painting and dry fit some parts, the printed turrets are IMHO very nice,and finished also with the anti torpedo booms,quite demanding this parts because the positions on the ship were not correct,so needed to set a corrected position , and because I don't have the beautiful booms from Pontos ,I had to figure some scrap photoetch to set part of the boom hardware, I used 1/700 boat cradles shaved and tuned and 1/700 Modern weapons Harpoon parts (also worked) from Flyhawk


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Post Posted: Sun Jun 02, 2019 12:57 pm
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Thank you but believe me the work you are doing on that is most impressive. Those kits can be pull out your hair screaming down the street frustrating! Look forward to the finished product!
Post Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2018 12:48 pm
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Joe Simon wrote:
You are doing a great job on this most difficult and frustrating build! I salute you!


My dear Simon... thanks for your support ,I am following your truly amazing Yamato build , that one is a fantastic work,mine is a simple model correcting procedure ,trust me ,nothing fancy.
this is your build
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:big_grin: :big_grin:
Post Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2018 12:44 pm
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You are doing a great job on this most difficult and frustrating build! I salute you!
Post Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2018 5:59 pm
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Now more on the model .I am working on the few pieces the model has, actually on the bridge and the funnels.

On the bridge basically I kept everything stock and only add some finesse details,still not finished but planning to use North Star Models
RN bridge accessories(fantastic stuff BTW)

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Funnels was a lot of fun :eyes_spinning: excessive detail on the strakes and I decided to erase almost all detail and make new one with primer and masking, IMO believe it tamed down the funnel and looks more in scale

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Starting with the photo etch

Is a generic set for use in different ships from ISW , I believe is for the HMS Canada,HMS Orion,HMS Agincourt and HMS Bellerophon
To say somethin ,is very basic and the parts are not etch relief at all and are veryyyyyy thin.
I got troubles to fit them on the funnel grills , they are very small,now I did my own grills


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Post Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2018 3:26 pm
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Hello fellow modelers, again bringing a short update on building this Iron Shipwrights HMS Orion.
Found I think the last flaw on the model and to recall them
1) Aft superstructure in wrong place(should be backwards 6mm or 1/4 inch
2) Very asymmetric starboard side of the hull,need a good quantity of filler/styrene to solve the problem
3) Armour belt is not symmetrical near the bow ,need to be redone in the last third

Now I found the last , and in this one I do applied the rule # 2 in my policy ,because it was to much problem cutting a big piece of resin and repairing it, so I will only increase the width of the funnel location on starboard by .020" with plastic strip and hopefully will be covered by the funnel itself
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Don't worry on the mast ,is only dry fitted

This big resin ships are full of little casting problems :Mad_6:
Post Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2018 2:52 pm
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I finished with the secondary weapons, those little fellows are really good looking and price/quality very good choice.
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Now the turn for the main guns

Decided to use Micro Master printed turrets and Master Models 36 cm Kongo guns,just erased the rings on the brass barrels near the blast bags. The other choices were B&D barrels,printed and stock, must say I am pretty disappointed with B&D barrels , they are the most expensive of all and quality wise are behind the Master model pieces,printed pieces are fairly good but still behind brass even after the B&D,stock are just a joke.

the turrets ,stock are not really bad ,but again quality wise are miles behind the printed turrets from Micro Master


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Post Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2018 8:32 am
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SovereignHobbies wrote:
Kits like this really annoy me. Paying so much money to get you a missaphen lump that requires similar skill and effort that would be required to scratch build just seems unethical.

That armour belt is a case in point. You're making a master for kits that will be sold for hundreds. Is it really asking too much to expect the pattern maker to use some extremely basic construction techniques and use their sodding eyeballs to check it's symmetrical before casting?

It makes my blood boil. The kit would be better value for money if it just contained drawings and unused raw materials.



James ...I totally agree with You,but this topic is quite sensitive, Yes ,the kit has some inaccuracies ,starting with the mispositioned aft superstructure,but my main gripe was with the unequal shape of the hull ,but I think was due of the resin shrinkage than a wrong master (want to be fair with ISW) that was a pain in the butt to solve and the reason of the belt misplaced also.

Another big problem with this kits apart of the price :Mad_6: is the need to use lots of aftermarket resources to complete a decent build,I will replace all the armament and many other fittings ,cause the stock are very ,very poor, but again , aftermarket parts is the name of the game mostly on all the kits.

Thanks for sharing your thoughts which are very interesting.

More pics ,and want to share a kind of review for the main guns


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Post Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2018 8:02 am
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PetrolGator wrote:
Niiiiiiiice.


Thanks Chris ,appreciate your interest :wave_1:
Post Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2018 7:03 am
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Kits like this really annoy me. Paying so much money to get you a missaphen lump that requires similar skill and effort that would be required to scratch build just seems unethical.

That armour belt is a case in point. You're making a master for kits that will be sold for hundreds. Is it really asking too much to expect the pattern maker to use some extremely basic construction techniques and use their sodding eyeballs to check it's symmetrical before casting?

It makes my blood boil. The kit would be better value for money if it just contained drawings and unused raw materials.
Post Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2018 1:33 pm
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Niiiiiiiice.
Post Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2018 1:23 pm
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MartinJQuinn wrote:
Nice! Keep the updates coming!


Thanks Martin, doing my best, now shifted to small details ,starting the 4 inchers MK VII for the secondary armament,found the best solution is to use the Komplekt Zip 102 mm resin guns,truly remarkable pieces,put some spare flywheels and Master Models RN 4" brass guns ,for the main guns ,prepping the Micro Master ( :heh: too much Masters) printed Orion turrets which BTW are simply awesome.


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Post Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2018 1:18 pm
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Nice! Keep the updates coming!
Post Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2018 2:35 pm
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Quincy wrote:
Looking good so far! :thumbs_up_1: :thumbs_up_1:

Bob Pink. :wave_1:



Thanks Bob , good to see your visit here :wave_1:
Post Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2018 1:11 pm
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Looking good so far! :thumbs_up_1: :thumbs_up_1:



Bob Pink. :wave_1:
Post Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2018 10:39 am
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Keeping the pace (mostly :heh: ) almost in the last part of the hull,it needs fine tuning,but getting better, added plastic strips to try to disguise the very exaggerated armor belt, I know is not accurate,but at least is the most visual gain method. With this model , I knew since the beginning, in order to make a precise and accurate redemption of the HMS Orion is beyond my capability , the best way is to fully scratch the model, but still I am very happy with this ISW kit,and I'm sure ,it will turn in a nice model of such a gorgeous warship.

Few more pics of the process ,any comment is very welcome (positive and negative)


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