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Topic review - To HMS Victory and beyond
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I must say that I admire your dedication; :thumbs_up_1: :thumbs_up_1:


.........and I must say that the ' new' blocks do actually look
a lot more as one would expect blocks-to-look-like ! :thumbs_up_1: :thumbs_up_1:

:wave_1: JB
Post Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2024 1:35 pm
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Yes, dafi knows how to do it, dafi hasn't forgotten anything ...

...

...

... the wrecking ball!

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What happened again?

I always say it, my biggest problem is getting the big exhibit in P. out of my head.

For almost 20 years now, I've been looking forward to those great special shoulder and quarter blocks that I discovered back then back there, building them exactly according to McKay and Bugler's plans and, in my exuberance, not even realizing that they are much rounder in the classic literature ...

Thank goodness there are some people in my german pack and also in the MSW who are not so obsessed and have a keen eagle eye and have pointed this out to me. Thank you!

So I made new rounder blocks. I also finally did some research, as I was slightly irritated at the first pass when I noticed that these blocks on the foremast lower mast and topsail are all the same size, just like on the main mast lower mast and topsail. Thanks to druxey from the MSW for reassuring me and confirming this on the basis of Steel's information.

At this point, in response to a few questions, I would like to repeat the painting method: first, using an old disheveled brush, two layers of very thin paint in a darker brown, which is the base color. The thin paint makes it easy to get to the sides without pasting over the holes.

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The highlighting color in a lighter brown, applied with a dry brush, is applied on top. This emphasizes the edges and the depths remain slightly darker, which gives optical depth. And the deliberately uneven application of color keeps the whole thing alive and no longer looks like plastic.

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Then the grand finale: as the new round blocks are the same size as the old square ones, simply press the new ones back into the strop from the side and you're done.

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The same with the sheet quarter blocks, before - after :-)

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You see dafi still can do it ;-)

XXXDAn


PS: All those of you that already got a delivery of blocks will get a free upgade of the blocks in question :-)
Post Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2024 8:08 am
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It certainly is Marijn, this has got to be the best build log of Victory ever done.
Post Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2024 9:17 pm
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Simply splendid! :thumbs_up_1: :thumbs_up_1: :thumbs_up_1:

Even though I won't be able to work in this much detail in 1/300 at all, I'm taking notes!
Post Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2024 9:58 am
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Thank you Jim!

The wax is for the lines made of cotton or other fuzzy cords, to smoothen the small "hair" standing up from it. Ropes made from synthetics usually do not have this problem. My ropes are made from fly fishing yarn, basically a kind of tooth floss :-)

The wax is not meant to change the appearence of the rope, it´s just to make it look neat and tidy. In the contrary the white glue cover I use for some of my ropes is the imitation of serving the rope. There it is unwantetd to see the structure of the rope, as it was completely coverd by yarn. At my scale it is first rather impracticable to really serve the thinner ropes, and second it always looks overscale.

Cheers, DAniel
Post Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2024 12:08 pm
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excellent works-- lots of attention to minutua! :roll_eyes:

but a question;

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==> how to you -- retrospectively..-- smooth all the hairy bits on your ropes....?

In the olden days -( on larger scales) -people used to pull their modell-ropes over a piece of beeswax
to smooth/' stick the down ( glaetten ) thte little hars

but the wax does not work well with glue / adhesives/ CA and paint

best wishes

Jim B :thumbs_up_1:
Post Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2024 10:48 am
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Next, of course, was the combination of blocks with a shoulder block for the top sail sheet and a normal block for the lift on the yardarm.

First the two blocks stropped together ...

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... then still smuggled in with bright rope the loop for the horses onto the cleat and finally tied in the eye for the double block at the outside.

First one side ...

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... and then the second ...

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... and everything for the lifts is on the yardarm :)

XXXDAn
Post Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2024 3:08 am
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I've been busy lately and haven't had much time to tinker. But the list of blocks to be used on the Vic and the corresponding rope thicknesses has finally been finalized. Time to check some of them again. As the blocks are sorted by yards and other locations, here is the block set for the main yard.

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Since the main yard has already been started, I've taken on the lifts. First the hangers. As usually served with white glue and black paint.

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The loop underneath the cap that holds the hanger together.

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And here the assembly on a spare mast cap.

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More hopefully soon.

XXXDAn
Post Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2024 3:01 am
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Beautiful work!!
Post Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2024 12:38 pm
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By mistake I printed some parrells less than half size than wanted. This printer always amazes me from new.

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And to my big surprize I was able to thread through a 0,1 mm copper wire!

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Now it is your turn @marijn van gils, it is almost your size. Just tell how much smaller you still like to have it ;-)

Go for it, I am sure you know how to tie a windsor knot into an ant´s necktie!

XXXDAn
Post Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2023 3:42 pm
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marijn van gils wrote:
I think I will simulate the parrels by gluing solder balls directly to the masts. I'm not sure if I will try to add strips in between the parrels on the topmasts though...


Marijn, what about using sections of 0.6 mm brass tubing and pass a wire through the sections? Time consuming maybe :big_grin: , but worth a try

dafi: spectacular work as usual :cool_2:
Post Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2023 4:04 am
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:big_grin: :big_grin: :big_grin:

That's too small for me too! ;)

The smallest blocks I made are about 1mm: viewtopic.php?f=59&t=167367&start=660#p966067
I don't plan on stropping or rigging any of them. The larger ones have the strop already built on them, for the smaller I will only paint it on. Rigging will be metal wire, which I will glue to the blocks instead of pass through them.

Anything smaller than 1mm, I will simulate with blobs of white glue. Or if I need complex structures, with punched plastic discs like I did with the gun tackle: viewtopic.php?f=59&t=167367&start=1100#p1032931

I think I will simulate the parrels by gluing solder balls directly to the masts. I'm not sure if I will try to add strips in between the parrels on the topmasts though...
Post Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2023 1:50 pm
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This means, my 2 Millimeter blocks would be 0,666 mmm.

I would go for that just to see him suffer ...

*sadistic laugh from the off*

...

XXXDAn
Post Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2023 7:45 am
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Your Parrel beads are a wonderful assembly-- superb

Now Marjinn needs to make his--3 x smaller!! hehehe! :big_grin:
Post Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2023 7:27 am
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Wonderful! :thumbs_up_1: :thumbs_up_1: :thumbs_up_1:
Post Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2023 4:30 am
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Once upon a time ...

The dafi had its annual public tinkering session with its modelling club at the Stuttgart trade fair. Then we went straight from the trade fair to a customer in Austria for a while. I didn't have a chance to think about anything model-building-related.

I'm back home now, and I can only catch up on what I've been doing over the last two months. But first things first :-)

Before the trade fair, I had finished the running rigging. I wanted to try it out at the fair to see if it would be manageable, as the stuff - if true to scale - is very, very small.

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As with the standing rigging, I have summarised the block sets for the individual locations.

Here are the yards of the main mast ...

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... of the foremast ...

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... and the mizzen mast.

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There are also the collections for headsails, stunsails and other locations.

It was fun again at the trade fair.

Our booth ...

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... my workplace ...

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... and my colleagues in typical working posture ;-)

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It was especially funny there when you want to try out the 2 mm blocks - the smallest of the sets - and don't have everything you need with you. Dear Alex then played vice and held my auxiliary jig for rigging - thanks for that!

It worked straight away and with my now tried and tested technique, even these small blocks are wonderfully quick and easy to rig.

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What was still missing were the parrells. I also managed to do this in a last-minute operation. Here are the two sizes with ribs for the top and topgallant yards.

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Threaded for neatening ...

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... and the first tying attempt to find out how many are needed.

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Here is the final version on the main top yard ...

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... and with a able seaman for the dimensions.

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Someone also climbed up especially for the topgallant yard.

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And to round things off, the stuff for the gaff also got their own size of parrells. First try ...

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... the shape was adjusted a little and the final version is on its way.

The claw is also grained with the centre punch ...

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... and drilled out with 0.5 mm ...

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... the blocks trimmed and wooded ...

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... and into place ...

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... and everything fits! Fits :-)

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Best regards, Daniel
Post Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2023 3:26 pm
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Astounding work. Just magnificent.

And a great, great trip report.
Post Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2023 7:54 am
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Post Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2023 1:52 am
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With the main yard I tried out the first blocks on the ship, and I really got into it with the hearts on the bow.

In the meantime it has developed further. It's amazing what a large amount came together for the standing rigging alone. Here is a family picture.

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The special blocks were the most fun. Here are some in the foreground.

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First the Sisterblocks, in German with the crisp name "Stengewantblocks", just try to speak that out loud.

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Of course, the test assembly here on the main mast was exciting ...

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... also with the matching ropes.

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And also cute the smaller version on the mizzen mast.

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Long tackles blocks are used to stiffen the fore topmast stay and its preventer stay.

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I'm also supposed to pass this in between the guys at the heads. Will also be exciting again.

XXXDAn
Post Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2023 5:17 am
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Elsewhere, people asked whether the net in front was not a hindrance and whether it would not make more sense underneath, as is the case today.

So I simply made some pictures that I don't want to withhold from you :-)

Here without the jib boom

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And here with

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You can see some things well.

- The wings of the bee give our little sailor a good foothold, which also explains the slanting position, which makes it easy to support oneself.
- The net is not particularly in the way, as you have to fish around the bowsprit cap in front of it anyway.
- The inner jib lands immediately in the net when it is brought down and does not lie over the spars. If it is stowed properly and successively when lowering, the standing area of our seamen also stays accessible.
- When the sail is stowed, the jib boom can still be moved.

What is also true, of course, is that this small net has evolved into the jib net we know today, where it has been reversed, because today you stand in the net and the sail rests on the boom. Even when stowing a medium-sized sail like the Hendrika, it takes a lot of strength to reach around and underneath the downhaul to fasten the sail. What was it like with the big sheets?

And the all-clear was also given elsewhere: In the literature, instead of the net, you always see two battens as a boundary at the top and bottom, connected with a zig-zag rope running lengthwise. David Antscherl gave me the hint that this was only a very short-term intermediate development stage that was very quickly replaced by the net.

Sorry, so I don't have any more demolition for you today ....

XXXDAn
Post Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2023 5:20 am

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