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Topic review - Marceau - Heller
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Rick_H
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Hi!
Thank you for this study of an excellent portrayal of the Heller Marceau. I'm just noticing this at a good time, as I am considering something similar in 1/700, utilizing the bad old "Narvik" kits from Matchbox and Skywave. Also, I have the issue of Navires & Histoire #05, which has a wonderful article on the French ships that originated in foreign navies. This includes Marceau (ex Z31), Leopard (ex Z23) and Hoche (ex Z25), as well as L'Alsacien (ex T23) and Le Lorrain (ex T28). The article provides several photos and profiles of each, with callouts of the different weapons. (Unfortunately the text is in French and I can only pick out a few words here and there.)

Your work is inspiration for me to get one of these started. It may also provide a use for a very basic Japanese resin kit of a German torpedo boat from the dawn of resin kits, in the late 1980s, I think. I was wondering if that one would ever be built.

Thank you again for showing this work!
Rick
Post Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2020 9:32 pm
Triumph68
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This was my first ...but I have been thinking since some time...to re-do mast and riggings...couldn't leave it that way...
actualy re-did
scratch build top of mainmast
scratch build fully rear mast ...and of course all riggings
looks better now


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Post Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2020 12:24 pm
Triumph68
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and a few more

hope you enjoyed my Marceau build
time to continue on my Admiral Scheer


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Post Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2018 3:17 pm
Triumph68
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ok...wife...parents etc go for gold letters on black...so its done...today I declare my Marceau as...
DONE and finished.
to admins... I can take more shots and resolution higher ... but I guess Its in a different topic...


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Post Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2018 10:36 am
Triumph68
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need your advice all....donno what to take...black on gold....or gold on black


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Post Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2018 7:32 am
Triumph68
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now ...paint wood, choose name plate and fix ship on it


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Post Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2018 10:41 am
Triumph68
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I thought it good to finish my Marceau...meaning...put it safe on a stand...
I decided to put it on woodblocks as if in a drydock ready to be relaunched after having been upgraded...
not sure I'm gonna do a golden name shield with black letters....or the inverse


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Post Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2018 5:56 am
Triumph68
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And ..a little picture manipulation...my Marceau ...in the water lol


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Post Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2018 6:19 pm
Triumph68
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have taken these pictures some time ago...but forgot to post them


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Post Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2018 6:17 pm
Triumph68
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Bouncy70 wrote:
Triumph68 wrote:
3) double...donno gun on rear castle between the two 150mm guns


Looks a bit like a German quad 20 with shield... but who knows. The image quality is too poor.

I don think it's the german quad 20...they where not that large


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Post Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2018 2:44 am
Bouncy70
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Triumph68 wrote:
3) double...donno gun on rear castle between the two 150mm guns


Looks a bit like a German quad 20 with shield... but who knows. The image quality is too poor.
Post Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2018 7:26 am
Triumph68
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and now another detail...what is this...it looks like an added store room where ones was the rear radar


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Post Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2018 4:19 am
Triumph68
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here are ..my oppinion some placements of secondairy aa guns
1) single 20 mm bridge level
2) double 20 mm main deck
3) double...donno gun on rear castle between the two 150mm guns


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Post Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2018 4:00 am
Triumph68
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that will do for my rigging


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Post Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2018 5:30 am
Triumph68
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DavidP wrote:
why did you paint the decks brown as they are not wood but steel?

it was an estetic choice I made before I got the crazy illness of doing it as it was up to last detail
lets say its the personal touch of the artist lol

do you like my Marceau?

still a few airlines to do and a few AA guns to place and 2-3 other things
Post Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2018 2:42 pm
Triumph68
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painted....and on the ship....few more details and ...its done


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Post Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2018 10:12 am
Triumph68
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I do need to stop at a certain point...but a front screen ...I thought is a must


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Post Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2018 9:32 am
Triumph68
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and this is when she was Z31


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Post Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2018 8:01 am
Triumph68
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this starboard picture is only one I found...and its a bit flue...but I'm afraid if I keep my modification...its not according real.....dilemma


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Post Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2018 5:50 am
Triumph68
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but I just found this pic...the window base and hull struckture looks much like whats in heller kid


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