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Guest wrote: DavidP wrote: the date is hand printed not stamped so presume it is correct. The drawing is not correct. I have found several detailed up close photographs taken from a March 57’ trip to Algiers. That structure is definitely not on De Grasse in this period. That was a modification done during her 1960 refit.
[quote="Guest"][quote="DavidP"]the date is hand printed not stamped so presume it is correct.[/quote]
The drawing is not correct. I have found several detailed up close photographs taken from a March 57’ trip to Algiers. That structure is definitely not on De Grasse in this period. That was a modification done during her 1960 refit.[/quote]
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Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2022 8:42 am |
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DavidP wrote: the date is hand printed not stamped so presume it is correct. The drawing is not correct. I have found several detailed up close photographs taken from a August 57’ trip to Algiers. That structure is definitely not on De Grasse in this period. That was a modification done during her 1960 refit.
[quote="DavidP"]the date is hand printed not stamped so presume it is correct.[/quote]
The drawing is not correct. I have found several detailed up close photographs taken from a August 57’ trip to Algiers. That structure is definitely not on De Grasse in this period. That was a modification done during her 1960 refit.
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Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2022 12:11 pm |
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Guest wrote: DavidP wrote: Guest, the date for the drawing showing that structure is 3.10 1956 Brest. I’m wondering if the drawing is accurate. I say this because I have seen 1956 & 57’ photographs that clearly do not show this structure. Also in the book French Cruisers 1922-1956 by John Jordan and Jean Moulin there is a photo on pg. 155 that clearly does not show this structure. That photo was taken just prior to commissioning in 1956. On pg. 156 there is a drawing based on DGA official plans dated 1957 Brest. That structure is also not in that plans drawing.
[quote="Guest"][quote="DavidP"]Guest, the date for the drawing showing that structure is 3.10 1956 Brest.[/quote]
I’m wondering if the drawing is accurate. I say this because I have seen 1956 & 57’ photographs that clearly do not show this structure.[/quote]
Also in the book French Cruisers 1922-1956 by John Jordan and Jean Moulin there is a photo on pg. 155 that clearly does not show this structure. That photo was taken just prior to commissioning in 1956. On pg. 156 there is a drawing based on DGA official plans dated 1957 Brest. That structure is also not in that plans drawing.
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Posted: Mon Dec 27, 2021 11:09 pm |
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DavidP wrote: Guest, the date for the drawing showing that structure is 3.10 1956 Brest. I’m wondering if the drawing is accurate. I say this because I have seen 1956 & 57’ photographs that clearly do not show this structure.
[quote="DavidP"]Guest, the date for the drawing showing that structure is 3.10 1956 Brest.[/quote]
I’m wondering if the drawing is accurate. I say this because I have seen 1956 & 57’ photographs that clearly do not show this structure.
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Posted: Mon Dec 27, 2021 9:05 pm |
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Triumph68 wrote: this picture made me think something not in kit.... So I went looking in the plans of "la marine National" send to me from David p got confirmation there...so...modification That modification was only on the ship after her 1960 refit. Your model represents De Grasse as completed in September 1956 and up thru later 1959. In her fit from 1956 to late 59, she did not have that structure between her height finding radar pedestal and the 127 mm gun director stand.
[quote="Triumph68"]this picture made me think something not in kit.... So I went looking in the plans of "la marine National" send to me from David p got confirmation there...so...modification[/quote]
That modification was only on the ship after her 1960 refit. Your model represents De Grasse as completed in September 1956 and up thru later 1959. In her fit from 1956 to late 59, she did not have that structure between her height finding radar pedestal and the 127 mm gun director stand.
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Posted: Mon Dec 27, 2021 6:46 pm |
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finaly put her on stands and fixed her properly
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finaly put her on stands and fixed her properly
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Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2020 5:49 am |
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info for admins...this is build, might ad some pictures...but building is over
info for admins...this is build, might ad some pictures...but building is over
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Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2018 3:29 pm |
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and here with the german WWII minesweeper...also heller and scale 1/400 I did at same time and almost finished
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and here with the german WWII minesweeper...also heller and scale 1/400 I did at same time and almost finished
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Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2018 2:02 pm |
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and a few more at sunset...gives a nice view...happy with those...lets be honest..making them is a joy..getting them well on a picture a real challenge and not always ...working out as wanted
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and a few more at sunset...gives a nice view...happy with those...lets be honest..making them is a joy..getting them well on a picture a real challenge and not always ...working out as wanted
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Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2018 1:31 pm |
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I took this picture...and I love it..it shows her as well from slightly above....and her silhouette as a shadow...
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I took this picture...and I love it..it shows her as well from slightly above....and her silhouette as a shadow...
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Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2018 1:21 pm |
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reduced antenna lenght...looks better
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reduced antenna lenght...looks better
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Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2018 12:00 pm |
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all input and comments welcome
all input and comments welcome
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Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2018 1:44 pm |
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Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2018 1:46 pm |
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you have to stop somewhere...my smallboats
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you have to stop somewhere...my smallboats
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Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2018 11:19 am |
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Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2018 12:00 pm |
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further evolution
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further evolution
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Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2018 1:32 pm |
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been working on some details like the 57mm guns, paint finishings and the small boats... had some problems deciding how I was gonna do them here are the first steps...
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been working on some details like the 57mm guns, paint finishings and the small boats... had some problems deciding how I was gonna do them here are the first steps...
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Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2018 7:11 am |
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rafts painted and glued on...and now main guns also glued on....I smell end closing in..... big time
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rafts painted and glued on...and now main guns also glued on....I smell end closing in..... big time
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Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2018 11:45 am |
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Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2018 10:21 am |
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