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That looks correct, EJM. Here's the equivalent colour conversion chart for Vallejo's Model Air line: https://acrylicosvallejo.com/wp-content ... -Rev20.pdfHaze Grey FS 36270: 71.275 USAF Medium Gray Deck Grey FS 36118: 71.097 Medium Gunship Gray Fresh nonskid: FS 36076: 71.048 Engine Gray Boggles the mind why the same FS number falls under a different name, but there we go.
That looks correct, EJM. Here's the equivalent colour conversion chart for Vallejo's Model Air line: https://acrylicosvallejo.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/model-air-vallejo-CC071-Rev20.pdf
Haze Grey FS 36270: 71.275 USAF Medium Gray
Deck Grey FS 36118: 71.097 Medium Gunship Gray
Fresh nonskid: FS 36076: 71.048 Engine Gray
Boggles the mind why the same FS number falls under a different name, but there we go.
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Posted: Sat Jul 24, 2021 3:38 pm |
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Timmy C wrote: Copying this from a reply I posted on another forum: For Vallejo users: Vallejo has a conversion chart that includes FS numbers here: https://acrylicosvallejo.com/wp-content ... 7-baja.pdfFor Haze Grey FS 36270, the Vallejo Model Color match is 70.870 Medium Sea Grey. For Deck Grey FS 36118, it's Vallejo 70.836 London Grey. For fresh flight deck non-skid FS 36076, it's Vallejo 70.994 Dark Grey. What you mentioned, Timmy, is from the Vallejo Model Color line. For the Vallejo Model Air Color line, I've read or heard the following: Modern US Navy Haze Gray: Vallejo Model Air Color # 71.275 USAF Medium Gray or # 70.615 US Navy Light Ghost Gray Modern US Navy Deck Gray: # 71.097 Medium Gunship Gray Modern US Navy Flight Deck non-skid gray: # 71.048 Engine Gray Anybody concur with these colors or not? Suggestions?
[quote="Timmy C"]Copying this from a reply I posted on another forum:
For Vallejo users: Vallejo has a conversion chart that includes FS numbers here: https://acrylicosvallejo.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/CC070-Model_Color-Rev17-baja.pdf
For Haze Grey FS 36270, the Vallejo Model Color match is 70.870 Medium Sea Grey.
For Deck Grey FS 36118, it's Vallejo 70.836 London Grey. For fresh flight deck non-skid FS 36076, it's Vallejo 70.994 Dark Grey.[/quote]
What you mentioned, Timmy, is from the Vallejo Model Color line. For the Vallejo Model Air Color line, I've read or heard the following: Modern US Navy Haze Gray: Vallejo Model Air Color # 71.275 USAF Medium Gray or # 70.615 US Navy Light Ghost Gray Modern US Navy Deck Gray: # 71.097 Medium Gunship Gray Modern US Navy Flight Deck non-skid gray: # 71.048 Engine Gray Anybody concur with these colors or not? Suggestions?
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Posted: Sat Jul 24, 2021 12:16 pm |
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Copying this from a reply I posted on another forum: For Vallejo users: Vallejo has a conversion chart that includes FS numbers here: https://acrylicosvallejo.com/wp-content ... 7-baja.pdfFor Haze Grey FS 36270, the Vallejo Model Color match is 70.870 Medium Sea Grey. For Deck Grey FS 36118, it's Vallejo 70.836 London Grey. For fresh flight deck non-skid FS 36076, it's Vallejo 70.994 Dark Grey.
Copying this from a reply I posted on another forum:
For Vallejo users: Vallejo has a conversion chart that includes FS numbers here: https://acrylicosvallejo.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/CC070-Model_Color-Rev17-baja.pdf
For Haze Grey FS 36270, the Vallejo Model Color match is 70.870 Medium Sea Grey.
For Deck Grey FS 36118, it's Vallejo 70.836 London Grey. For fresh flight deck non-skid FS 36076, it's Vallejo 70.994 Dark Grey.
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Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2020 2:02 pm |
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Subset of this question: Does anyone know how (or indeed, whether) modern USN colors differ from the neutral grays that replaced the ultramarine-based purple-blue series at the end of World War II? And if they really are different, does anyone know when the changeover occurred?
Subset of this question: Does anyone know how (or indeed, whether) modern USN colors differ from the neutral grays that replaced the ultramarine-based purple-blue series at the end of World War II? And if they really are different, does anyone know when the changeover occurred?
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Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2020 1:35 pm |
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Photos I've seen lead me to believe it's very close to the prewar USN True Blue, which is available in the Colourcoats aircraft range.
Photos I've seen lead me to believe it's very close to the prewar USN True Blue, which is available in the Colourcoats aircraft range.
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Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2016 1:07 pm |
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and what about the blue antifouling on USS Port Royal ?
and what about the blue antifouling on USS Port Royal ?
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Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2016 7:24 am |
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thanks guys !!!! I have order my WEM paint
thanks guys !!!! I have order my WEM paint :thumbs_up_1:
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Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2012 10:57 am |
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We have the modern USN colors accurately matched and available in our Colourcoats enamels: M 03, Modern USN Haze Gray; M 04, Modern USN Deck Gray; M 05, Modern USN Flight Deck Gray; M 06, Modern USN Antifouling Red. https://www.sovereignhobbies.co.uk/coll ... al-colours
We have the modern USN colors accurately matched and available in our Colourcoats enamels:
M 03, Modern USN Haze Gray; M 04, Modern USN Deck Gray; M 05, Modern USN Flight Deck Gray; M 06, Modern USN Antifouling Red.
https://www.sovereignhobbies.co.uk/collections/modern-naval-colours
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Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 8:37 am |
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Thanks to sgtryan13 for the tip, Tamiya German Grey appears to be a great color for USN modern flight decks (pre-weathering). I would imagine it would also work for most horizontal surfaces, too.
Regarding the main color of USN ships, is it my imagination that they appear slightly blue-ish? I have looked over many photos, and have yet to find a satisfactory color in the Gunze/Tamiya line. The closest acrylic I have found is Medium Grey (Testors Model Master or Revell Aquacolor). Both appear slightly blue-ish, though the Model Master version is a little darker.
Thanks to [b]sgtryan13[/b] for the tip, Tamiya German Grey appears to be a great color for USN modern flight decks (pre-weathering). I would imagine it would also work for most horizontal surfaces, too.
Regarding the main color of USN ships, is it my imagination that they appear slightly blue-ish? I have looked over many photos, and have yet to find a satisfactory color in the Gunze/Tamiya line. The closest acrylic I have found is Medium Grey (Testors Model Master or Revell Aquacolor). Both appear slightly blue-ish, though the Model Master version is a little darker.
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Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 4:45 am |
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FS X6270 is the color. X is a 2 or a 3, depending on the sheen of the paint that it labels. If the paint you find does not have the sheen that you want, get it anyway, apply it, and then overspray it with a clear coat in the sheen you want to end up with. Note that decals adhere better to gloss, so if flat paint is what you can find, use it, spray on a gloss clear coat, apply decals, spray again with flat clear coat. I'm not altogether certain about the flight deck since I'm not into mobile air strips, what I posted before was what I found when I searched the subject earlier. I believe that flight deck finishes have changed over the years, and then you have the effect of weather, which includes the effects of flight ops. The following pictures are of the era Attachment: banner.gif Attachment: k41696.jpg Maybe someone else can chime in on flight deck color
FS X6270 is the color. X is a 2 or a 3, depending on the sheen of the paint that it labels. If the paint you find does not have the sheen that you want, get it anyway, apply it, and then overspray it with a clear coat in the sheen you want to end up with. Note that decals adhere better to gloss, so if flat paint is what you can find, use it, spray on a gloss clear coat, apply decals, spray again with flat clear coat.
I'm not altogether certain about the flight deck since I'm not into mobile air strips, what I posted before was what I found when I searched the subject earlier. I believe that flight deck finishes have changed over the years, and then you have the effect of weather, which includes the effects of flight ops. The following pictures are of the era
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[attachment=0]k41696.jpg[/attachment]
Maybe someone else can chime in on flight deck color
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Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 12:45 pm |
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Russ2146 wrote: Post war, The specification for modern USN Haze Gray is FS 26270. And is FS 26270 convenient for a Vietnam era haze gray? for a Essex SCB27c hull for example? And would the FS 36118 be a good match for her flight deck? domi13
[quote="Russ2146"] Post war, The specification for modern USN Haze Gray is FS 26270. [/quote]
And is FS 26270 convenient for a Vietnam era haze gray? for a Essex SCB27c hull for example? And would the FS 36118 be a good match for her flight deck?
domi13
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Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 11:53 am |
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This chart covers pre-war and WW2 but not for all brands. http://www.internetmodeler.com/2003/jun ... part_1.htm Post war, The specification for modern USN Haze Gray is FS 26270. Testors Modelmaster Neutral Gray is FS 36270. The difference in the first digit is satin vs flat. Testors MM Gunship Gray FS 36118 is a good match for deck gray. New flight deck non-skid is matched well by MM Engine Gray, FS 36076. I don't know if Tamiya, Humbrol or Gunze include the FS number in their labeling. Here's charts put out/hosted by Int'l Plastic Modelers Society-Stockholm. http://www.ipmsstockholm.org/colorchart ... _gunze.htmhttp://www.ipmsstockholm.org/colorchart ... umbrol.htmhttp://www.ipmsstockholm.org/colorchart ... tamiya.htmAll that being said, WEM Colourcoats, based on Snyder&Short color charts are considered the most accurate by many.
This chart covers pre-war and WW2 but not for all brands. http://www.internetmodeler.com/2003/june/ships/color_part_1.htm
Post war, The specification for modern USN Haze Gray is FS 26270. Testors Modelmaster Neutral Gray is FS 36270. The difference in the first digit is satin vs flat. Testors MM Gunship Gray FS 36118 is a good match for deck gray. New flight deck non-skid is matched well by MM Engine Gray, FS 36076.
I don't know if Tamiya, Humbrol or Gunze include the FS number in their labeling.
Here's charts put out/hosted by Int'l Plastic Modelers Society-Stockholm. http://www.ipmsstockholm.org/colorcharts/stuff_eng_colorcharts_gunze.htm http://www.ipmsstockholm.org/colorcharts/stuff_eng_colorcharts_humbrol.htm http://www.ipmsstockholm.org/colorcharts/stuff_eng_colorcharts_tamiya.htm
All that being said, WEM Colourcoats, based on Snyder&Short color charts are considered the most accurate by many.
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Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 8:09 am |
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I was just about to ask this question, though I am also open to Model Master acrylics, Vallajo, and Revell Aquacolor. Thoughts anyone?
I was just about to ask this question, though I am also open to Model Master acrylics, Vallajo, and Revell Aquacolor. Thoughts anyone?
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Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 2:21 am |
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Can somebody help me to find the good paint for the hull and the deck of a USS TICONDEROGA class ship? Humbrol, Tamiya or Gunze color . Thanks
Can somebody help me to find the good paint for the hull and the deck of a USS TICONDEROGA class ship? Humbrol, Tamiya or Gunze color .
Thanks :thumbs_up_1:
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Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 12:22 pm |
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