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Topic review - IPP Naval Ship Colors
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Harq,
Be looking for them real soon

Jonathan,
Glad to hear they made it ok, unfortunately due to EMS shipping rules their thinner doesn't pass hazmat specs. I think Devin had a pretty good and easily obtainable suggestion in his review though.

Thanks for the interest!

Matt @ Kraken Hobbies
Post Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2016 2:14 pm
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I got my shipment of the IPP Paint from Matt day before yesterday. Haven't had a chance to spray any yet as a test, but the consistency does very much remind me of Mr Color. This is exciting because Mr Color sprays and levels exceptionally well.

Very much looking forward to getting a chance to shoot these. Unfortunately Matt said that due to hazardous shipping concerns he won't be getting the IPP specific thinner, so lacquer thinner it is!

Thanks to Matt @ Kraken Hobbies for the great arrangement and shipping experience!
Post Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2016 10:29 am
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Definitely looking for non-acrylic alternative paints in naval and/or military colors like these. The samples look very good too.
Post Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2016 1:45 pm
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RaceFuel wrote:
My prior experience is with Mr Color, would these spray similar to that when thinned 1:1?


Yes, these remind me quite a bit of the Mr. Color paints as far as consistency and spray behavior. I think they may even have a little better coverage if you brush paint them.
Post Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2016 9:24 pm
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Thank you Dan and Devin for the great in depth review!

Thank you Martin for posting the link to my shop,

Racefuel, PM inbound!

Everyone Else, sounds like I will be carrying this line based on interest, I will be posting them in the online shop once I get them in.

Regards,

Matt @ Kraken Hobbies
Post Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2016 6:25 pm
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Thanks,

Hopefully they become available soon. I wonder if Kraken Hobbies has a retail location? I'm only about 2 hours south of Troutdale and wouldn't mind a stop-by.
Post Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2016 6:00 pm
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RaceFuel wrote:
Also, how would we go about reaching Kraken Hobbies and getting these ordered?

http://stores.ebay.com/Kraken-Hobbies
Post Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2016 3:45 pm
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Thank you for the review!

I'm quite interested in the USN colors..I've got a Missouri build coming up and was planning on using the Model Master enamels of 5-H, 5-N and 20B but these seem much closer to accurate...

My prior experience is with Mr Color, would these spray similar to that when thinned 1:1?

Also, how would we go about reaching Kraken Hobbies and getting these ordered?
Post Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2016 3:31 pm
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Since Devin has already covered the background and methodology, I'll just comment on the two IPP colors offered that are meant to represent Sasebo and Kure Grey for ships of the Imperial Japanese Navy. In short, both colors showed much more of a green tinge than I would have expected. IJN greys had varying degrees of a bluish tinge, though Yokosuka Grey did have a tinge of green to it. I will say that in terms of shading, the IPP Sasebo color is properly darker than the Kure color.

The first two images are of the IPP colors against their designated navy yard color, as represented by the respective S & S chips. For curiosity's sake, I also matched the IPP colors against the chip for Yokosuka Grey. The IPP Sasebo color comes closest to Yokosuka Grey, but even then, the Yokosuka Grey still has more blue and less green in it.

While IPP would not be my first choice of paint for representing the IJN, I leave it up to the prospective buyer to decide whether or not these new paints can meet their requirement. I echo Devin's thanks to Matt of Kraken Hobbies. (Love that name.)


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Post Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2016 1:38 pm
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Matt of Kraken Hobbies sent along some samples of the new lacquer based ship paints from IPP of Korea. The range is mostly made up of USN WWII colors at this point, but does also have some WWII IJN colors, as well as modern colors. The lineup as of now is, per Matt’s ability to order:

IJN: Sasebo Grey, Kure Grey, Linoleum Brown

USN: 20B, 5-O, 5-L, 5-H, 5-S, 5-N, 5-P

Modern USN: Deck Matt, Flight Deck Matt, Freeboard Superstructure Matt

JMSDF: Freeboard Superstructure Matt, Deck Matt

Per Matt, they also offer their own brand of thinner and leveling fluid, which I would recommend. More on why later.

The following paints were tested by myself and IJN expert Dan Kaplan. I’ll comment on the three USN colors, Dan will chime in on this thread with his thoughts on the IJN offerings. Testing was done by spraying the paints on white styrene, unprimed, to match as close as possible the Snyder and Short paint chip cards (hereafter S&S) that both Dan and I possess.

The paints come well-thinned for brush painting right out of the bottle. They’re deceptively thick, however, and will not spray through an airbrush right out of the bottle. I thinned initially with Mr. Color Self Leveling Thinner, then switched to regular hardware store variety lacquer thinner. If improperly thinned and on the thick side, the paints do a great impression of Silly String out of the airbrush. The sweet spot on these samples was right around 1:1 paint to thinner. The surprising bit was that they performed better with the hardware store thinner. The Mr. Color thinner resulted in odd spitting and/or splotching issues. For this reason I’d recommend using the proprietary thinner made for the paint, as while I didn’t have any on-hand to try personally, I’ve never seen a paint that didn’t perform better with its own thinner.

Photos below show the results, compared directly to the S&S paint chips, under daylight corrected CFL bulbs, photos processed and color corrected in Photoshop.

5-H Haze Grey (SH-10) - this paint is a spot-on match for the S&S color chips. Not much else to say about it. In the photo and to the naked eye it’s a perfect match.

5-N Navy Blue (SH-08) - in the photo below there’s a bit of difference in the paint sample and the S&S chip. In person the difference is negligible, and mostly due to a slight gloss finish on the paint as I applied it on the heavy side. It’s not perfect, but so close that you won’t notice unless you have the S&S chip right next to it. If you compensate for scale effect or apply weathering, it’ll do just fine.

20B Deck Blue (SH-04) – When I first sprayed the 20B, Dan and I thought it a spot-on match for the color chip. After the paint dried fully, however, with the naked eye and in the photo below one can tell there’s a bit of a difference between the paint and the S&S sample for 1942 Revised Deck Blue 20B (it’s way off from the 1941 20B). In both the photo and actual observation, the paint appears to have more of a green tint, whereas the S&S sample is stronger in the blue range. It’s definitely close, though, and again, with weathering and scale effect taken into consideration and not having an S&S paint chip right next to it, it should pass just fine on your model.

Airbrushed the paints go on nicely and dry dead-flat. Brush painted they dry with the slightest of sheen. Again, I do recommend using the specified thinner made for the paint, but that’s my recommendation for any paints.

Overall, for the three USN samples provided, I think they’ll do just fine. If you’re a fan of the old Floquil USN lacquers that disappeared from the market two decades ago, these new lacquers will fit set you up nicely. Thanks again to Matt of Kraken Hobbies for the opportunity to test these out.


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