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Thank you :thumbs_up_1:

Stunning work.

Thanks to you both, Dan and Stefano!

Moi aussi :cool_2:

Wow. Ditto what I wrote about Australia. :thumbs_up_1:

Thank you :woo_hoo:

She's beautiful Vladi. Very inspiring work. Congrats on a great build.

[size=200][b]Destroyer USS Patterson DD-392, Battle of Savo Island, Aug 9, 1942[/b] [/size]

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[size=150][b]�WARNING! WARNING! STRANGE SHIPS ENTERING HARBOR.�[/b]
[b]
This famous signal was issued by USS Patterson�s captain over TBS just after sighting a Japanese cruiser at 01:43. Commander Walker�s next order to fire torpedoes was unfortunately overheard in the noise of 5in gun as Patterson fired a starshell. She then got involved in a gun battle with Japanese light cruisers Tenryu and Yubari, receiving a hit aft. With two aft guns disabled and a large fire started, Patterson drew blood at the Japanese side, too.[/b] [/size]

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My model shows Patterson after executing a sharp turn to port and aiming guns and torpedoes to open fire on the enemy.

This was my first fully 3D printed kit (except PE parts of course) and it worked very well for me. The 3D printing lines on the hull remain faintly visible on close inspection of the starboard side in macrophotography, next time I�ll try to sand them down slightly and/or use a heavier primer. These cannot be seen by the naked eye though.

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The research phase was really interesting. The level of available photographic evidence varies by Bagley class members but the characteristics of each ship came out quite clear as seen in [url=https://drive.google.com/file/d/1EpCketArrE0tpQ5MgDmfEXx-8Jm-Yizw/view?usp=sharing][b]Bagley-class destroyers � Differences as of summer 1942[/b][/url].

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[b]Parts used[/b]

Kraken Hobbies
[list][*]1/700 USS Patterson DD-392 (1942) + Waterline hull + decals
[*]1/700 Bagley Class Photo Etch Set (design Vladi�s Navy)[/list]

Shelf Oddity 1/700
[list][*]US Navy 20mm Oerlikon Single Machine Gun
[*]US Navy Ammunition Boxes for 20 mm shells
[*]US Navy Spardeck Fittings (26' whale boats, 5in practice loader)
[*]US Navy Searchlights
[*]US Navy Life Rafts
[*]US Navy Officers
[*]US Navy Sailors
[*]0.06mm Rigging Metal Wire[/list]

My own decals for ship�s name, non-skid pads and U.S. flag; printed by laser printed on transparent and white decal paper

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[b]References[/b]

[list][*]Floating Drydock 1/96 plan G-DD387 USS Blue DD387 1943
[*][url=https://www.dropbox.com/sh/4cn7x3t0pgpm7tu/AAC_zqxuHNlo4bGejQEosdBMa?dl=0]Booklets of General Plans for USS Blue 1942 and USS Henley 1942[/url] kindly shared by Egilman
[*]About 80 prewar and early war photographs of Bagley-class members, many of them from various online sources, especially Naval History and Heritage Command and Navsource.org and others kindly provided by Rick E Davis and Dick Jensen
[*]Modelwarships.com: [url=http://www.shipmodels.info/mws_forum/viewtopic.php?f=49&t=33935]Calling All 1,500 tonner (USN DD) fans![/url]
[*][url=https://destroyerhistory.org/goldplater/bagleyclass/]Bagley-class at Destroyerhistory.com[/url] [/list]

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[b]Many thanks to[/b]

[list][*]Rick E Davis for all his help in finding the relevant information and providing guidance and photos from his great collection - and a lot of patience, too
[*]Matt Enochs of Kraken Hobbies for embracing and supporting the whole idea of creating a 3D printed Bagley class kit, for all his patience with my � at times - daily feeds of comments, and, indeed, for providing me with the prototype kit
[*]Egilman for sharing his wealth of BOGPs[/list]

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Check [url=https://www.flickr.com/photos/vladi_k/albums/72177720328002628/]my album on Flickr[/url] for more photos in higher resolution.

Thank you, Stefano! The usual method worked for me in the end, but I�ll definitely experiment next time :wave_1:

[quote="SG1"]And interesting idea about the cigarette paper - Stefano, do you mean to try printing on it? But that would have to be on two layers, I can�t imagine printing a flag of this size that precisely from both sides of one paper...
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Vladi check Stefano Salesi's cigarette paper technique here:

http://www.shipmodels.info/mws_forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=37703

or Jim Baumann's way to prevent crackings when using aluminium foil here:

http://www.shipmodels.info/mws_forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=7353

Thank you, Martin, Devin and Stefano!

It may be the decal paper is old, I�m not getting younger either :D

Thanks for the hint, I havent�worked with Liquid Decal Film in the past.

And interesting idea about the cigarette paper - Stefano, do you mean to try printing on it? But that would have to be on two layers, I can�t imagine printing a flag of this size that precisely from both sides of one paper...

B E A U T I F U L ! (in every respect)

[quote="Vladi"] :( Any suggestions welcome![/quote]

how about cigarette paper or thermal receipt paper ?

What are you clear coating the decals with before applying them? If it's an acrylic or solvent based clear, that may be what's cracking. I've found that Microscale's Liquid Decal Film has a bit of flex in it and behaves better in such situations: [url=https://www.microscale.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=MI-12&Category_Code=FINPROD&Product_Count=6]Liquid Decal Film[/url]

Excellent work, Vladi! She looks great.

I have used the same method for the flags in the past (decal laid down on foil) and haven't run into that problem. Not sure why you are - maybe the decals are old?

Made some good progress on USS Patterson in the meantime :)

[list=a]- gloss coat applied
- weathering using artistic oil paints
- added remaining details: 20mm oerlikons, life rafts, main director, radar antennae, TBS antenna, whaleboat and davits
- added rigging according to photos
- sprayed matt varnish overall
- added sailors across the ship (I still plan to add a few more)[/list]

So the ship is now close to be finished. Here are a few "control" shots that I use to determine what minor touch-ups are to be done (like on one of the antennae running from the funnel to secondary conn).

It can be also noticed that the national flag is missing. I�m using a white decal paper on which you can print on a laser printer. But the flag measures out to approx. 1.7 mm in height in 1/700 and that's almost impossible to print clearly. However, the most difficult turned out to form such a small decal into a "flying" shape. I�m using a piece of aluminium foil as a base to which the decals are applied from both sides, using Mr. Mark Setter to soften them up. I had some 2mm high flags for test, but the decals keep breaking :( Any suggestions welcome!

Rick, thanks for your post and sorry for having overseen it. What you wrote sounds indeed very logical, they were replaced as needed. Thanks!

Vladi,

Each USN ship had a supply of canvas so they could replace worn/destroyed canvas (Bloomers and railing covers being the primary uses during WWII and as awnings in peacetime) and it was expected that they would be painted as required. There are plenty of images of ships with "natural" canvas or painted canvas at some point in time and maybe even a mix of the two on a ship.

Absolutely breathtaking work Vladi!

Keep it up! :thumbs_up_1:

Matt

Thank you Dan, totally agreed.

I confess the reason I chose faded dark dodgers for Patterson (in the given uncertain situation) was to make her appear another bit more different from Bagley that I still plan to complete later ;)

I would think that, sometimes, a worn dodger has to be replaced prior to any dockyard visit, from possible spares. Maybe from a tender. So there could be any number of reasons why it wasn't painted at a particular time.