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by **setori** » Mon Dec 18, 2023 11:26 am

Zut et flute , les pdf ni le cdr ne sont accept�s

by **setori** » Mon Dec 18, 2023 9:57 am

Iceman 29 wrote:Very nice model!

Je peux essayer de te d�couper plusieurs masques si tu veux, il me faudrait le longueur totale et la hauteur que tu d�sires pour le nom JACQUES SHIAFFINO . Pour l'arri�re, c'est plus compliqu� vu la forme.

Merci pour ta proposition !!!!!!! J'ai un ficher psd (ci joint) et le m�me en cdr (corel draw) mais en noir !!!, de quel format as tu besoin.

by **setori** » Mon Dec 18, 2023 9:50 am

DrPR wrote:I have used the following technique to place lettering on models. It depends upon finding some suitable rub-on letters of the right size and font (color doesn't matter).

1. Paint the surface where you want the lettering the color of the letters you want. Let the paint dry.

2. Rub on the letters.

3. Paint over the letters with the background color of the overall surface. Let the paint dry.

4. Peel off the rub-on letters.

This leaves painted letters of the desired font, color and size surrounded by the desired surround color. The letters are just a paint layer thick (not too thick as the rub-ons might be). The letters don't have the clear surround of decals, and they won't yellow with time like decals do.

Phil

Thanks DrPr, but I've tried this method (see previous post) and I was not satisfied because glue from the letters was ledt on the hull

by **Iceman 29** » Sun Dec 17, 2023 4:03 am

Yes, it�s a nice method too.

by **DrPR** » Sat Dec 16, 2023 11:22 pm

I have used the following technique to place lettering on models. It depends upon finding some suitable rub-on letters of the right size and font (color doesn't matter).

1. Paint the surface where you want the lettering the color of the letters you want. Let the paint dry.

2. Rub on the letters.

3. Paint over the letters with the background color of the overall surface. Let the paint dry.

4. Peel off the rub-on letters.

This leaves painted letters of the desired font, color and size surrounded by the desired surround color. The letters are just a paint layer thick (not too thick as the rub-ons might be). The letters don't have the clear surround of decals, and they won't yellow with time like decals do.

Phil

by **Iceman 29** » Sat Dec 16, 2023 5:24 pm

Very nice model!

Je peux essayer de te d�couper plusieurs masques si tu veux, il me faudrait le longueur totale et la hauteur que tu d�sires pour le nom JACQUES SHIAFFINO . Pour l'arri�re, c'est plus compliqu� vu la forme.

by **setori** » Sat Dec 16, 2023 5:16 pm

thanks but it's an expensive machine

by **Fliger747** » Sat Dec 16, 2023 4:41 pm

I've been able to do warship numbers and letting for ships using my Cameo Machine, pascal uses a similar device. One can find a plethora of fonts, it will use any fonts on your computer. I have ben able to do draft marks down to 1;144 scale.

Nic work! Tom

by **setori** » Fri Dec 15, 2023 10:55 am

And now, it's finished !!!!!!

But the name of the ship is missing, I still don't know how to make it

by **setori** » Wed Dec 06, 2023 9:59 am

I've been working on the life boats

by **setori** » Thu Oct 12, 2023 7:17 am

I tried DrPr method with BECC letters 4mm high.
But these letters are too big, 3.5 mm would be much better.

I'm not very satisfied with the result, maybe because of the vinyl lettres. There are traces of glue left, as you can see and white paint is peeled in some places.

Conclusion : I still don't know what to do.

Maybe I could go to the fablab in Sete, but it's expensive

by **Iceman 29** » Wed Sep 06, 2023 12:20 pm

Thanks Phil.

by **setori** » Wed Sep 06, 2023 10:58 am

thank you all

by **DrPR** » Tue Sep 05, 2023 10:07 pm

I second what Tom said about spraying over the letters with the letter color before applying the finishing background color. For example, if you want white letters, after applying the rub-on letters spray a light coat of white paint over them. This way if any paint bleeds under the letters it will be white. Then spray the background color (grey, etc.) over the letters.

I developed this technique many years ago when I needed some silver Railroad Gothic Condensed (I think that was the font) letters for a model locomotive. I found decals and rub-ons in every color but silver! So I bought some black rub-ons in the correct font and size and used them as stencils.

Phil

by **Fliger747** » Tue Sep 05, 2023 10:25 am

I have used both methods for lettering. The Cameo-Cricut type vinyl stuff is often used on cars and whatnot and seems to adhere well. I overspray the applied lettering with a dull coat type material. The best most permanent method is as Phil describes as only paint remains. However the paint will attempt to creep under the edges of the masks. One can use a coat of the letters color (eg white) and then spray the hull color. A number of very light airbrush coats will minimize creep under the letters.

I suggest you experiment with this a bit first!

Good luck! Tom

by **setori** » Tue Sep 05, 2023 9:34 am

wow ! very clever ! I m gonna try it

thank you

by **DrPR** » Mon Sep 04, 2023 10:49 pm

I worry that these self adhesive letters might fall off after the adhesive has aged. They often are excessively thick for lettering on models. Sometimes you can't find the right color letters. And the letters may change color with ageing.

The solution I have used is this:

1. Paint the area where you want the lettering in the desired color for the letters. Let the paint dry.

2. Apply the rub-on letters.

3. Spray the background color over the lettering area. Let the paint dry.

4. Remove the rub-on letters. Ordinary masking tape has worked for this.

This allows you to use any color rub-on letters as "reverse stencils" to make any color lettering. The resulting lettering will be only as thick as the layer of paint. And you won't have to worry that the letters will fall off or change color!

Phil

by **setori** » Mon Sep 04, 2023 12:28 pm

here are BECC letters

by **setori** » Mon Sep 04, 2023 11:53 am

Thanks Fliger !
The Cameo machine costs 300 euros !
I'll try first the becc letters I've already ordered.
If it doesn't work, there's a fablab in my town (where i made laser cut for my hull) and I think they have a cameo machine.
The challenge then will be aligning all the letters.

by **Fliger747** » Mon Sep 04, 2023 11:22 am

For ships name and numbers I have been able to utilize a "Cameo" machine which allows one to cut out (1) quite small and accurate letters and numbers (2) use the computer driven bead to cut stencils. I have been able to do many of such items, even draft marks with this machine. I got the idea for this from 'Iceman" who had used these machines previously. Many fonts are available and one can add fonts from on line, allowing one. to type out the arrangement of desired characters.

Cheers: Tom

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