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Re: Calling all Kriegsmarine Schnell-Boot fans

by stevinne » Thu Jun 09, 2022 8:08 pm

A bit off topic, but I was wondering if anyone knew of memoirs by schnellboot crews. I'd be interested in reading what fighting the coastal war was like from their perspective.

Re: Calling all Kriegsmarine Schnell-Boot fans

by keef666 » Thu May 12, 2022 3:53 am

Missed this tread, and i come on this site once a day to check the galley out and still missed this!
I did an RC conversion back in 2009/10 of the Italeri S100 1/35th kit with a lot of extras added, of course it had a 20mm Vierling on the back and scratchbuilt mines and trolley, fitted with three motors its sailed beautifully, then in a fit of madness i sold it, the build log i did was over on Finescale model site and all the photos were on Photobucket, needless to say i have lost them all, and even when i have gone on to the site they are all deleted.
Back in March i bought another one and in the process of building this for RC again, also picked up the Earlier type Italeri released around 2017/20 of S-38, cat number 5620. Now it seems Italeri is coming out with S-26 cat number 5625, so i want to know is this a re-release kit or has it go newer details/ parts etc? Coming out with a Hiigins 70 footer also!
Over the course of the last few months i have also been adding to my collection of S-boot books up to around 16 now and for all those pages not a lot of photos, nearly nil on any camo schemes!
So now waiting to seeing this new Italeri S26

Re: Calling all Kriegsmarine Schnell-Boot fans

by David Clark » Fri Sep 10, 2021 2:06 am

A company called Fore Hobby has just released a 1/72 kit of the S-38 S-boot. I have only seen it online but it seems to be a fairly sophisticated model with good detail, PE and turned gun barrels:

https://www.1-72depot.com/en-au/miniatu ... s-38-1942/

I am just starting the old and flawed Airfix E-boat and I've got the Revell S-100 to build next so it may be a while before I buy the Fore Hobby kit. Hopefully there will be some reviews and buld articles before long

Re: HELP---NEW HERE--SCHNELLBOOT question

by drasticplastic » Sat Mar 06, 2021 7:17 pm

This question sound familiar from only a couple of months ago. Wartime S-Boots had no masts - therefore no rigging. There were antenna cables attached by turnbuckles to the rear of the foreward 20 mm's safety rail, attached to the antennae either side of the bridge, and terminate, again with turnbuckles, to the safety rail of the mid-ship twin 20 mm. (or whichever weapon is placed at this location). The cables are hard to see in most photos, unless they are close-ups.
https://weaponsandwarfare.files.wordpre ... 0-side.jpg
:wave_1:

Re: HELP---NEW HERE--SCHNELLBOOT question

by Story » Sat Mar 06, 2021 11:22 am

MIR wrote:
Can anyone point me to some good references on how to do the rigging on both the S-38 and S-100, so far I have not been able to find anything. I look forward to any information/help if at all possible. I am doing a super detailing of both models like I do with my armor pieces, so I do need some information on the rigging....who knows this may led me to building nothing but ship models in the near future....
Have you consulted these references?

https://play.google.com/store/books/det ... lsrc=aw.ds

https://www.abebooks.com/German-S-Boats ... uVEALw_wcB

http://s-boot.net/englisch/sboats-krieg ... tures.html

HELP---NEW HERE--SCHNELLBOOT question

by MIR » Sun Jan 10, 2021 2:56 pm

Im new here, so bear with me. I am not new to modeling, been doing it for about 30 something years but I build mainly armor but recently I have the urge to want to build a ship of some sort so I have been looking into the 1/35 scale Italeri Schnellboot. I dont see any issues with construction etc....but I do see one thing that has always scared me away from building a ship model--- THE RIGGING

Can anyone point me to some good references on how to do the rigging on both the S-38 and S-100, so far I have not been able to find anything. I look forward to any information/help if at all possible. I am doing a super detailing of both models like I do with my armor pieces, so I do need some information on the rigging....who knows this may led me to building nothing but ship models in the near future....

Re: Instructions for Airfix 1/72 German e Boat

by Kevin2010 » Mon Nov 26, 2018 4:02 pm

I am not sure as they say "S Boat" ...but they look close....I cant tell you how much I appreciate your help and consideration!!! Very nicely done, sir!....

Re: Instructions for Airfix 1/72 German e Boat

by InchHigh » Mon Nov 26, 2018 3:41 pm

There are some posted here, do these help?

https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/airfixt ... 32264.html

Instructions for Airfix 1/72 German e Boat

by Kevin2010 » Mon Nov 26, 2018 2:01 pm

Hello everyone...May I ask for your help! :wave_1: I am in need of Airfix 1/72 German e boat instructions....would you be able to scan and email me a copy? I will happily pay $10.00 for your time and effort... Plse feel free to contact me at kcmorgan@msn.com

Re: Calling all Kriegsmarine Schnell-Boot fans

by jgrease » Tue Dec 20, 2016 9:29 am

Anyone have updated links for conversion of the Italeri 1/35 S-boot to an early S-38 class?

John

Re: Calling all Kriegsmarine Schnell-Boot fans

by biggles2 » Tue Jun 14, 2016 10:32 am

Since an S-Boot's speed was greater by several knots than that of the torpedoes it fired, is it safe to say that attacks were not delivered at top speed? Or, at least, did they throttle down so as not to run into their own torpedoes just fired? Or, did they fire at top speed, then make a sudden swerve to avoid their torpedoes? :wave_1:

Re: Calling all Kriegsmarine Schnell-Boot fans

by Tim Connelly » Thu Mar 24, 2016 10:18 am

David,

Please email me. You have my email. Thank you.

Tim

Re: Calling all Kriegsmarine Schnell-Boot fans

by Dakra » Wed Mar 23, 2016 11:29 am

Another photo of the same boat showing deterioration of the anti fouling paint. Again slightly color corrected/saturated in PS
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Re: Calling all Kriegsmarine Schnell-Boot fans

by Dakra » Wed Mar 23, 2016 11:21 am

Same photo, color corrected/saturated in PS. The yellow areas seem to be paint applied after the salvage. My guess it is an attempt at preservation using a USN issue primer paint.
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Re: Calling all Kriegsmarine Schnell-Boot fans

by Dakra » Wed Mar 23, 2016 11:12 am

The hull was built of aluminium alloy metal frames with wood planking. Further details are in the Construction section of the Squadron book. Here is a photo showing the deteriorated hull of a boat salvaged by the Allies. Note the black stripe is actually oil staining from sitting idle in dirty harbour water, and is not a boot top. Judging from the many photos I have seen, boats in service were kept in very good order.

HTH
-Dave
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Re: Calling all Kriegsmarine Schnell-Boot fans

by biggles2 » Wed Mar 23, 2016 10:23 am

I know the S-Boots were of a combination of wood/metal construction. What was the hull built of - wood with metal sheathing, or just wood? I believe the enclosed forecastle area of the torpedo tubes was of aluminum construction, hence the hundreds of rivets and no welds. But pertaining to the hull below the main deck - was that just wood and no metal? If there were areas of deterioration of the anti-fouling paint visible, how would it look? Would there be some sort of primer visible through the paint, or just bare wood? :wave_1:

Re: Calling all Kriegsmarine Schnell-Boot fans

by Dakra » Mon Jun 29, 2015 3:16 pm

FYI the 2nd edition of Schnellboot in Action is currently on sale for $10.00 at Squadron. First time its been on sale as far as I know. If you have the 1st edition, I recommend getting the 2nd edition. Many errors corrected, vastly improved drawings, better captions, more photos, more color profiles, more pages, etc.

http://www.squadron.com/Schnellboot-in- ... s14035.htm

Dave

Re: Calling all Kriegsmarine Schnell-Boot fans

by zeusbheld » Sat Sep 13, 2014 5:19 am

Dakra wrote:I took apart the Airfix "German E-Boat" to see why it doesn't look right; it was an itch I had to scratch.

http://prinzeugen.com/AirfixSchnellboot.htm
That analysis was enlightening! Thanks for doing that. You talked me out of the Airfix kit, basically. The new Schnellboot in Action book is a fantastic resource, and well worth buying the same book again (I own the previous edition). I feel a lot better about painting the bottom of the boat Schiffenbodenfarbe red rather than grey, for one thing. Those color photos are a fantastic find.

I'm about to embark on building my S-100 class boat from the Revell Kit. It'll be about my 3rd model since returning to building models as an adult (I'd stopped in secondary school when I became far more interested in girls and beer). It's going to be R/C, but I'd like to use the full Griffon PE set, so keeping it light enough to float might get... interesting.

I'm most likely going to build the S-150, which if I'm not mistaken, was 9th Flotilla commander von Mirbach's boat when the 5th and 9th flotillas attacked the D-Day landing practice exercises at Slapton Sands and sunk about 3 LSTs, leading to a massive US government coverup.

First difficulty here is that while I've found a lot of after market decal sets I've not seen one for the 9th flotilla's insignia. Jean-Philippe Dallies-Labourdette, in his S-Boote: German E-Boats in Action incorrectly identifies the insignia as the 8th flotilla. I believe it's been mentioned earlier in this threat that this book has factual inaccuracies; so there's one. Also, the art in the book depicts e-boats as heavily weathered as Flower-class corvettes. I've read somewhere that they were meticulously maintained and the paint was kept relatively fresh. Photos bear this claim out, so I'd be hesitant to rust it up. That said, the book has a lot of photos and is a good read for those who want to get a feel for operations and tactics, so I don't regret having it.

Before I start building, I'm waiting on Harald Fock's Die Deutschen Schnellboote 1914-1945, and will probably get his Fast Fighting Boats as well, unless someone convinces me that they're so redundant one doesn't need both.

There are a couple more projects queued up, but I'll be building a 1/72 semi-scratch s-38 class boat on a Coastal Forces hull at some point, so I want to amass a lot of research material (that, and I'm the sort of person who spends $400 on research material to build a $20 kit). Most likely I'll build the s-130. Only problem with this plan is it would give me two 9th flotilla boats, so if anyone knows of another boat of either class that was involved in one or more remarkable actions, please post a mention of it (I like my models to have backstory).

On the other hand, if they're both R/C, it might be cool to be able to send a 'swarm' of two s-boots out to chase the monitor lizards that swim in the pond near my house...

Re: Calling all Kriegsmarine Schnell-Boot fans

by Dakra » Mon Jun 16, 2014 8:21 am

I took apart the Airfix "German E-Boat" to see why it doesn't look right; it was an itch I had to scratch.

http://prinzeugen.com/AirfixSchnellboot.htm

Re: Calling all Kriegsmarine Schnell-Boot fans

by Lord_Waffles » Sun Feb 23, 2014 6:05 pm

Sorry I forgot to add the link. Here it is
viewtopic.php?f=13&t=155588

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