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Thank you for your feedback, Steve. 😊

I was very pleased to receive it.

Excellent work, Joelle. I really like the weathering: it's very realistic looking.

Steve

Let’s do a quick update on the starboard side.

I had to attach another 50 small, thin supports. Anyone who used to enjoy playing Pick-Up Sticks has an advantage here.

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But first, the overlay itself. To hold it in the correct position while the adhesive sets, the blue putty from “Blu Tack” is perfectly suited.

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And so, on this side as well, the torpedo net sections gradually take their place.

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And towards the bow.

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The next piece of intricate detail work is thus complete.

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Very nice, Timmy. :thumbs_up_1:

With your help, I found the magazine—the German edition. It is *Logbuch* 2021/4. I think that’s worth 5 euros to me.

Many thanks to everyone.

Thx Joelle, Eberhard and Timmy. Kudos to everyone :cool_2:

If you have 5 EUR, you can purchase Issue 300 of Neptunia, which has the article "Les filets « Bullivant »" by Decencière that I assume Wefalck is referring to: https://boutique.aamm.fr/neptunia/neptunia-300

Article description: Le développement des armes sous-marines (mines, torpilles) mit en évidence la vulnérabilité des carènes des navires de combats. Pour y remédier, les Marines européennes mirent au point des systèmes de filets métalliques tendus tout autour de leurs bâtiments. exclusivement tournée vers la mer et les navires.

Wow, that’s really cool, Eberhard. :cool_1:
Is it possible to view the article? I can't find anything about the nets in the LOGBUCH archive.

For those, who can read either French or German, there was an article on the torpedo-nets and their operation by Patrice Dencencière in NEPTUNIA a few years ago, which I translated for the German LOGBUCH with some additions on German practices. The article shows how such nets were rigged and stowed.

I'm glad you liked it—thanks, SG1.

Exactly: the acrylic glue dilutes beautifully with water. I use it at a consistency similar to buttermilk.

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When applied to the joint with a fine brush, it is drawn into the gap via capillary action. Afterward, use a clean, damp brush—wiped off on a paper towel—to pick up the excess glue; you will then see no visible glue residue. Here, too, the capillary effect ensures that the brush absorbs the glue.
On top of that, it dries with a matte finish.

I wouldn't want to be without it; I consider this glue one of the best new products to hit the market in recent years.

[quote=Joelle post_id=1101950 time=1777782141 user_id=271333]
Let’s move on to the material I am using for the nets. These are to be represented using tulle fabric.[/quote]

There goes a beautiful Bullivant net. The pattern of the mesh resembles the Bullivants' and sausage-rolled it looks pretty much the same.

Question about the AK acrylic glue: do you apply the glue with a brush? water consistency-dilution i suppose?

Great Great result, bravissimo :cool_2:

Thank you all for the kind words.—und das auch noch in Deutsch, Jim! 😊

Exactly, Willie. Often the simple solutions are the best—you just have to think of them. I saw this tulle fabric at a friend's place and immediately thought, "Give it to me—that's my solution for the torpedo nets!" 👍

And a special thank you to you as well, Wieslaw—your paintwork on the *Fuso* is also outstanding. And yes, you're spot on about Facebook; plus, we're both members of the Britmodeller forum as well. 😉

Nice work, really like the paint job. I think I might’ve seen your build on Facebook somewhere. Congrats again!

[size=150]Hi there, Joelle and all [/size]

[quote=Joelle post_id=1101950 time=1777782141 user_id=271333]
Let’s move on to the material I am using for the nets. These are to be represented using tulle fabric.

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[size=150] Why, even though all your work is awesome, this is the physical EVIDENCE that big problems can actually have the easiest solutions. Has off to you, sir. Simply fantastic. Your solution is not the imitation of a steel net: this is a net by itself.

Best regards from this side,

Willie.[/size]

Weiterhin schoene arbeit! !! :thumbs_up_1:

more excellent works !! :thumbs_up_1:

Thank you very much, Martin. 😊

Let’s continue with the torpedo net mountings.
They have now received their supports.

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In addition, the eyelets for the spars have been mounted.

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Everything has aged.

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And ready for the net.

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That was another very tedious, fiddly job.

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In another forum, a user asked whether the arrangement for the spars actually works. On the Pontos model, they extend very deep into the cradles.

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That probably isn’t quite right. I have a picture here of HMS Magnificent, which is quite similar to my Mikasa. It shows that the spars were secured further forward—ahead of the supports and the nets.

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To this end, they were likely seated primarily in their mounts and secured with a steel cable—as seen here on the SMS Goeben.

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I think that is exactly how I will do it.
Let’s move on to the material I am using for the nets. These are to be represented using tulle fabric.

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I think the mesh size should be fine for 1:200 scale. I ran a quick test and laid them loosely onto the supports. Once painted to look like steel, I’m actually quite pleased with them.

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I’ll have to roll a sausage long enough to be able to show the mesh continuously. But I’m already very pleased with the first test run.

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But next up, it’s the other side’s turn for the overlay.

Beautiful, precise work! Those look outstanding.

On to the next hull detail.

The torpedo net supports need to be attached. It’s a delicate job, requiring great care not to bend the finely detailed components.
And this task, too, is made easier by my assembly stand.

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Once again, I can use Mig’s acrylic adhesive to attach the components and don’t need to use superglue. Diluted with water, it flows beautifully into every gap.

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And it leaves absolutely no residue.

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The result is mesh supports that run perfectly parallel to the structures on the hull.

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Clean and without adhesive residue.

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Now the supports can be attached.

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I’ll take care of that tomorrow.

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Thank you so much.

I really wouldn't want to be without the assembly stand anymore. It gives me more confidence during construction and is a great help.

I'll definitely make another one for my next project, the CV-6 Enterprise.

Very clever and handy solution. Admiration continues :cool_2:
Looking forward to see the crafting of torpedo nets, fascinating elements

A quick Sunday update.

Opening and closing my work stand works very well, as expected, and thanks to the sleeve nuts, it's now very quick too.

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This makes it incredibly easy to simply switch sides and lay the model on its side for easier lid installation.

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It simplifies things so much. Especially since I don’t need to use superglue, as the acrylic adhesive has time to bond due to gravity.

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More and more of the covers on the casemate guns are taking their place.

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I can only attach the lids that open downwards once the support with the torpedo net is secured, since they rest on the net.

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The lid with the radius on the upper, outer round casemate will be added later. It’s too prone to being torn off. And I need to check the space available between the net and the lid on the lower round casemate first.

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And just like a pit stop in Formula 1, I simply closed the dry dock and switched sides. Great.

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And the Mikasa was laid on its side again.

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The anchor is now in place on the starboard side as well.

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Great, that worked well. The torpedo net can be installed.

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