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Cheers for the tips guys,some ideas i would never have thought of. I went with the future floor polish method as i had some under the sink and it worked fine :thumbs_up_1: . Now my first atempt at rigging :cry_3:

Being new to this hobby, I didn't do a great deal of research prior to attempting "water" for the first time. This link will take you to a pic of my first attempt at 700 scale AND water. http://www.shipmodels.info/mwphpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=12533&highlight=


I just assumed the best thing to use would be model railroading water. The problem is I didn't think the whole thing through. You see, for this Indy I used a product called EZ Water. Basically its a bag of beads that you heat up on the stove top. They melt, then you pour it where you want it to go. Simple right? Well, here's the downfalls:

A. Super heated plastic and a finished model made of plastic don't mix. I risked melting the entire hull of my Indy. I got lucky though.

B. Waves. It is nearly impossible to make them. The waves you see in this example were completely accidental. Right before the stuff dried, I tipped the whole thing back, then it dried with this appearance.

C. You only get one chance at making it right. Period.

D. Your wife yells at you for using her good pots for such a silly project.

Perhaps there are other Model Railroading waters out there, but I haven't investigated them yet. At this point, I prefer to find models that have good examples of water, then respectfully pick the modelers brain.

[quote="JBA"]
cool, I would never have think of the wood bit but i can figure out the effect -what about *blowing* on it hard enough? :surfer:[/quote]

Well, blowing is too weak ;o)
It also produces radial waves, as you can not blow equally over entire width.

How the effect looks like you can see at
http://www.shipmodels.info/mwphpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=134032#134032
which I just posted - progress photos of my current dio.

[quote="PetrOs"]I actually use model railroad water modelling mass from Noch. Painting the base board in a proper color, then applying a bit of the stuff, and rolling it with a piece of 2 cm thick round wood. The rolling makes beautiful small wave pattern, like a calm sea touched by the wind.[/quote]

cool, I would never have think of the wood bit but i can figure out the effect -what about *blowing* on it hard enough? :surfer:

I actually use model railroad water modelling mass from Noch. Painting the base board in a proper color, then applying a bit of the stuff, and rolling it with a piece of 2 cm thick round wood. The rolling makes beautiful small wave pattern, like a calm sea touched by the wind.

Though i don't do scales smaller than 1/35, i would definitely use some of those transparent acrylic gels that you can find in art shops -they are rather cheap, you tint them with acrylics and they do the job..

Remember not to apply too thick coats or it might have some troubles to dry properly -NEVER use a hairdryer to speed up the process, and remember to coat the whole with a good gloss varnish afterwards otherwise your water will look plastic,
the stuff I think would be really ideal to create waves for 1/350 scale boats..
:surfer: JB

Use normal fast setting woodworking glue

I use it often--and then finetune with dabs of gloss varnish



or use Future Floor polish(like te aircraft guys-works for them

Good luck

JIM B

[quote="Rob"]White glue will do the job - it dries clear and with a nice sheen.

Cheers,

Rob[/quote]

Depends on a kind! My white glue dries matt white, its Ponal Express kind...

White glue will do the job - it dries clear and with a nice sheen.

Cheers,

Rob

I use either acrylic gloss varnish or Future (Johnsons Klear).

John

Hi
Iv`e used oil paint to produse small waves , now it has all dried it all seems a bit dull, what would be the best meathod to make it look more realistic. All i can think of is a coat of gloss coat, it would give depth and shine but would it react with oils or crack ?. The last thing i want when i`m so near to finishing. Any advise would be greatlly appreciated :thumbs_up_1: