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by **Dan K** » Sun Mar 24, 2024 9:18 am

Huh. I have to say that I've never noticed this detail before. Fascinating.

An examination of photos for all the sisters shows it to be a common feature, roughly between frames 170 - 200, over the aft set of TT mounts. It's not clear to me about a similar feature over the front set of TT mounts. The view of this area below shows it off well. This feature was present in their as-built configurations.

The HA is not a strength deck, but I would guess that it seemed to have something to do with alleviating bending stresses in the hull. Just a guess.

I'll have to ask Mucho.

by **RussO** » Sat Mar 23, 2024 1:20 pm

Hi Dan,

Skulski's Anatomy of the Ship shows an undulating high angle gun deck (tried to highlight it in yellow). Mr. Sasaki's May 1, 2020 post that shows a portside photo of his 100 scale Chokai also shows this wavy pattern just above the aft torpedo tubes. Was there a structural/functional reason why the deck had this shape? Am aware of the sloped forward deck on the Yamato class and sloped rear decks characteristic of the IJN heavy cruisers, but not sure why this was also done to Chokai's (and appears all Takao class) HA gun deck? Thanks!

by **Dan K** » Fri Mar 22, 2024 10:09 pm

Offhand, I couldn't say. Can you show us a photo of the area in question?

by **Guest** » Fri Mar 22, 2024 5:32 pm

Hi all,

Does anyone know why the edges of IJN Chokai's deck (above her torpedo tubes) appear "wavy"? This is how Aoshima's 1/350 kit is depicted - I have Eduard railings that have a "wavy" bottom to fit along this edge. Anyone know the reason why this was done, and if this was common for all Takao class ships? Thanks in advance!

by **KevinD** » Fri Nov 25, 2022 1:54 am

Dan K wrote:Mucho's magnificent scratch-built 1/100 Chokai 1944 has been completed and featured in the just released #51. Maybe his best work to date.

WOW! Simply stunning!!

How long did thaaaaaaat take to build?

by **Dan K** » Fri Nov 18, 2022 12:53 pm

Mucho's magnificent scratch-built 1/100 Chokai 1944 has been completed and featured in the just released Navy Yard #51. Maybe his best work to date.

by **edgardo gil** » Sun Aug 28, 2022 10:28 am

Yes, you are right, I forget that about the Chokai single gun turrets.
Many thanks for the info.

by **Dan K** » Sun Aug 28, 2022 10:06 am

Thx, Timmy!

Chokai never mounted twin 12.7cm mounts, so it's a moot point for her.

Maya's wreck photos show no shields over the otherwise intact 12.7cm mounts.

There is a photo of an Atago mount that does seem like it has a shield.

I can't find anything for Takao one way or another.

by **Timmy C** » Sat Aug 27, 2022 9:44 pm

Dan K wrote:For some reason, I cannot access that photo.

I've uploaded it directly to their post for convenience.

by **Dan K** » Sat Aug 27, 2022 9:41 pm

For some reason, I cannot access that photo.

by **edgardo gil** » Sat Aug 27, 2022 5:46 pm

Somebody knows from what date those protection plates were fitted and in what ship?, I mean Takao, Maya, Atago or Chokai.
That pic belongs to the Takao Kagero 3D, but I can�t find a photo of this arrangement.

https://www.mediafire.com/file/aajx3wpl ... s.jpg/file

Many thanks,

by **Mutsuo Sasaki** » Tue May 19, 2020 3:56 am

Jon C Ryckert wrote:Yes, but I was comparing how he depicted the linoleum strips on the main deck to those on the airplane deck on drawing H18/3.

Hi, I didn�t do comparison-check since my aot book is still at his place in Krakow.(he stopped sending books and materials to other countries as they were found stolen at the local post office)

In stead, I tried to look into the aircraft deck area and the pattern of lino stripes from another source.
It ought to be like this pr attached illust. of mine. Shown with yellow lines. Got the stripes info from a pic of ex captain of Atago where the a/c deck surface is visibe .The Chokai might have had the same,also counting the ending of the stripes from the stern.Takao and Maya seemingly must have had extra stripes longditudinally on either side here,too

cheers,
mutsuo

by **Dan K** » Mon May 18, 2020 3:05 pm

Understood. Can't really explain the different pattern. Different wear and stress, I imagine.

by **Jon C Ryckert** » Mon May 18, 2020 4:30 am

Yes, but I was comparing how he depicted the linoleum strips on the main deck to those on the airplane deck on drawing H18/3.

by **Dan K** » Sun May 17, 2020 2:54 pm

18/2??? That's a top down, cutaway view under the aircraft deck.

by **Jon C Ryckert** » Sun May 17, 2020 9:16 am

Thanks. I saw those lines but thought they were different as they are drawn differently in other drawings (e.g. H18/2)in the book.

by **Dan K** » Sun May 17, 2020 8:56 am

No, I am also looking at H18/3. Those are tie-down strips between the rails. Only the turntables are treaded between the rails.

by **Jon C Ryckert** » Sun May 17, 2020 8:10 am

Dan K wrote:The AOTS book shows linoleum between the trolley rails.There is one photo of Atago in 1942 that shows what might be brass tie-down strips in this area. It's not clear.

Are you referring to plan veiw H17/2 on page 220? I am looking at plan veiw H18/3 on page 223.

by **Dan K** » Sat May 16, 2020 7:05 pm

The AOTS book shows linoleum between the trolley rails.There is one photo of Atago in 1942 that shows what might be brass tie-down strips in this area. It's not clear.

by **mister me** » Sat May 16, 2020 5:34 pm

The wood color is to be considered as linoleum covered area and not a wooden covered one.

So the question is : was this zone painted metal covered, or reddish brown colored linoleum covered.

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