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by Filipe Ramires » Wed Aug 15, 2007 6:46 am

Werner wrote:I'm sure they have evolved several small-boat solutions since Cole.
Yes but 30 or plus boats is a bit overhelming!? Nevertheless they can always take a look in some 60 old battle reports that did show how to deal with Shinyo suicide boats in great numbers.

by Werner » Wed Aug 15, 2007 5:10 am

I'm sure they have evolved several small-boat solutions since Cole.

by scratchshipnut » Tue Aug 14, 2007 11:38 pm

Maybe that marine detachment has some tow missles? Couldnt you just do lockers and mounts and use those?

by Werner » Tue Aug 14, 2007 8:49 pm

Mac wrote:I think the ships are as well protected as they can reasonably be with Standard, Sea Sparrow, RAM, 5 inch, Phalanx, 25mm, 50 cal, small arms, etc. I don't think there is any ship in any navy that can deal with 30+ small speedboats at one time.
No, but the situation would probably evolve slowly enough to request some aircraft from a nearby CVN.

by Mac » Tue Aug 14, 2007 8:34 pm

I think most of the US ships in the Persian Gulf also mount the 25mm Bushmaster cannon. I believe that the USN keeps them in a pool and they are fitted to ships when they arrive in the Gulf and removed when the ship leaves. The mounts are then installed in the next ship to arrive.

I think the ships are as well protected as they can reasonably be with Standard, Sea Sparrow, RAM, 5 inch, Phalanx, 25mm, 50 cal, small arms, etc. I don't think there is any ship in any navy that can deal with 30+ small speedboats at one time.

by Filipe Ramires » Tue Aug 14, 2007 5:02 pm

Werner wrote:Most ships can bring at least 2 such guns to bear on any quarter.
You can always make use of the Phalanx if you don't think the 50 cal. are fast enough for the job.

by Timmy C » Tue Aug 14, 2007 4:21 pm

I'm more fascinated with the smoke trail of the missile...more maneuverable than I thought.

by Werner » Tue Aug 14, 2007 4:11 pm

Don't you think the M-2 .50cal machine gun which is deployed as a pintle mounted gun aboard all USN warships is sufficient for targets a mile or so off?

Most ships can bring at least 2 such guns to bear on any quarter.

High-Speed Maneuvering Surface Threat (HSMST)

by Tim Barron » Tue Aug 14, 2007 3:37 pm

070813-N-1229B-044 PACFIC OCEAN (Aug. 13, 2007) - One of four RIM-7 NATO Sea Sparrow missiles launched from the Nimitz-class aircraft carrier USS Abraham Lincoln (CVN 72) impacts a High-Speed Maneuvering Surface Threat (HSMST), a remote controlled Rigid Hulled Inflatable Boat (RHIB) during a stream raid shoot exercise. Lincoln and embarked Carrier Air Wing (CVW) 2 are underway off the coast of Southern California conducting Tailored Ship's Training Availability (TSTA). U.S. Navy photo by Mass Communication Specialist 3rd Class Patrick Bonafede (RELEASED)

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Obviously, this is more of a photo op. But is this our primary defense mechanism against speed boats?

Some countries, like Iran, are touting they have hundreds of speed boats. In the cold war, the F-14 was designed as "defender of the fleet" to take out multiple targets simultaneously. I guess the worry in my head is what about the scenario of 10, 20, 30+ speed boats?

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