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Re: Calling all SMS K�nig class fans

by Timmy C » Sat Sep 28, 2019 4:37 pm

The F sprue is the molded-in-red version of the propeller skegs: https://www.detailscaleview.com/2017/03 ... eview.html

Re: Calling all SMS K�nig class fans

by thebunkerparodie » Fri Sep 27, 2019 5:22 pm

do I have to do a lot of modification in order to do a final preliminary project K�nig class from a 1/700 model?

Re: Calling all SMS K�nig class fans

by thebunkerparodie » Fri Sep 27, 2019 4:40 pm

why the F sprue for the kronprinz?
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https://www.super-hobby.com/products/Kr ... lery_start

Re: Calling all SMS K�nig class fans

by Atma » Fri Apr 05, 2019 2:15 am

Hello guys Im building the Markgraf from ICM in 1/700 and the instruction suggest a small range fingfer on top of the Turret's roof number #4, I thought that this small range finder was only available/attached/used/etc by later war (1917 ? ). Shall I omitted it for an early war Konig class battleship ?
Thanks in advance. :thumbs_up_1:

Re: Calling all SMS K�nig class fans

by William » Wed Mar 20, 2019 1:24 pm

Maarten,

Thank you!

Bill

Re: Calling all SMS K�nig class fans

by Maarten Sch�nfeld » Wed Mar 20, 2019 5:16 am

There are only slight differences in the kit on the yardarms of the foremast.

Re: Calling all SMS K�nig class fans

by William » Tue Mar 19, 2019 11:53 am

Gentlemen,

I should probably read through this entire thread, but time presses . . .. Are the ICM 1/350 Koenig class ships each from the same molds? Or, do the kits reflect the minor differences between the actual ships?

Thanks!

Bill

Re: Calling all SMS K�nig class fans

by tjstoneman » Mon Feb 04, 2019 4:40 pm

I question the relevance of gadcabs' post to the K�nig class thread, but the Nelson class configuration was primarily a result of careful planning to allow the maximum weight of armour to the magazine areas by arranging all three turrets' magazines next to each other, thus making the best use of the displacement allowed under the Washington Treaty, and avoiding the need to have two separate magazines requiring more armour. In theory, the "A" arcs for the 16" guns extended to about 30? either side of dead astern (20? for "B" turret"), but firing thus would have incurred significant blast damage to the bridge superstructure, so would have been avoided if at all possible.

Re: Calling all SMS K�nig class fans

by Nanond » Wed Oct 03, 2018 6:45 am

ch hoeltge wrote:Hi, placing the flags is similar then to other countrys.
On the Bow was the G�sch, it was fly there only in port and for special events like holidays, emperors birthday or inspectations.
The flag on the fore mast signals which is the commanding officer on board. As the K�nig was a flag ship there was usually an admiral flag from Admiral Paul Behncke there.
He was first Konter Admiral, white Flag, black cross, two black dots. And from November 1916 he was promoted to Vize Admiral, white Flag, black cross, one black dot and this depict the flag for the 1917 K�nig from ICM.
And there was also the Imperial War flag wich was at the stern in harbour and at the mizzen mast.
So you have to decide if you model your K�nig at sea or in port.

Greetings Christian

Exactly the kind of information I'm looking for. Thank you so much Christian.
Then I'll set her in 1917, in the harbour with G�sch on the bow, Vize Admiral flag on the fore mast signals and Imperial War flag at the stern!

Re: Calling all SMS K�nig class fans

by ch hoeltge » Wed Oct 03, 2018 4:58 am

Hi, placing the flags is similar then to other countrys.
On the Bow was the G�sch, it was fly there only in port and for special events like holidays, emperors birthday or inspectations.
The flag on the fore mast signals which is the commanding officer on board. As the K�nig was a flag ship there was usually an admiral flag from Admiral Paul Behncke there.
He was first Konter Admiral, white Flag, black cross, two black dots. And from November 1916 he was promoted to Vize Admiral, white Flag, black cross, one black dot and this depict the flag for the 1917 K�nig from ICM.
And there was also the Imperial War flag wich was at the stern in harbour and at the mizzen mast.
So you have to decide if you model your K�nig at sea or in port.

Greetings Christian

Re: Calling all SMS K�nig class fans

by Nanond » Mon Oct 01, 2018 2:58 pm

I have a question regarding the flag hoisting tradition (if that's the correct term) of Imperial German navy. I'm building a 1/700 SMS K�nig to be displayed at mooring.
In this situation, can I have Naval Jack on the bow, a rank flag on the foremast and a war ensign on the main mast? I saw at least a photo of K�nig with what look like the battle ensign flying on the main mast and a vice admiral flag on the foremast, while the ship appeared to be in or departing from the harbor. In another photo, SMS Markgraf is seen with a Naval Jack on the bow and a war ensign on the main mast.

I'm only familiar with IJN and I think their practice is the ensign on the stern when in port and on the main mast when underway. So I would appreciate some lecture on the practice of of Imperial German navy.

Thank you

Nanond

Re: Calling all SMS K�nig class fans

by Bill W » Sat Jul 07, 2018 4:52 pm

Maarten,

Thank you so much for confirming my suspicions! Thank you also for the information on the linoleum deck error.

Cheers,

Bill

Re: Calling all SMS K�nig class fans

by Maarten Sch�nfeld » Sat Jul 07, 2018 2:19 am

Bill W wrote:Hello,

I have the ICM 1/350 Konig #S001 and am searching for a wood deck set for it. The only thing I'm able to find is for the kit #S002 Grosser Kurfurst. I vaguely recall being told that each of the four ICM kits are identical but after reading through this topic I didn't see any definitive answer on this. I'm hoping the Kurfurst deck will fit the Konig and wanted to run the question by you guys before I make the purchase.

This is what I'm looking at:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Hunter-1-350-W ... Swd4tUHpzR

Thanks,

Bill
Hi Bill,

The four ICM kits of the ships of the K�nig (the two dots on the o aren't there for nothing in German!) class are virtually identical, only in the masts there are some differences. So you can use one and the same wooden deck to model each of these ships.

If there were any detail differences between the ships on deck level, the references from these ships are so scarce that you are on your own.

The little wooden deck part 2 in your reference is also one of the errors in the kit: this deck was not planked, but laid with the same dark red 'battleship linoleum' as all the higher decks from the superstructure, up to the searchlight platforms.

Re: Calling all SMS K�nig class fans

by Bill W » Thu Jul 05, 2018 10:18 pm

Hello,

I have the ICM 1/350 Konig #S001 and am searching for a wood deck set for it. The only thing I'm able to find is for the kit #S002 Grosser Kurfurst. I vaguely recall being told that each of the four ICM kits are identical but after reading through this topic I didn't see any definitive answer on this. I'm hoping the Kurfurst deck will fit the Konig and wanted to run the question by you guys before I make the purchase.

This is what I'm looking at:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Hunter-1-350-W ... Swd4tUHpzR

Thanks,

Bill

Re: Calling all SMS K�nig class fans

by ch hoeltge » Wed Jun 06, 2018 11:22 pm

Yes that's right. The crane boom was laid on the deck during combat or exerises. The small boats where also left in harbour, as the would interfer with the guns.

Greetings Christian

Re: Calling all SMS K�nig class fans

by DavidK » Wed Jun 06, 2018 7:46 pm

Atma wrote:Hello, anyone can guide me of how exactly the boat cranes where stored, lowered when not in use/in action. Thanks in advance. :thumbs_up_1:
If the ICM kit is accurate, then the boat crane booms have to lay on the deck or the middle 12" turret guns can't swing out to either side. That appears to be the case in the photo that Atma posted.

Dave

Re: ICM 1/350 KONIG Dimensions

by DavidK » Wed Jun 06, 2018 7:43 pm

Kriegmeister wrote:Can someone please indicate the overall height of this kit, from the bottom of the hull to the top of the tallest mast?
I've already mounted my finished waterline version of the 1/700 ICM Grosser Kurfurst in faux water, but as near as I can tell it's about 7 cm from the flat hull baseplate bottom to the top of the tallest mast. Hope that helps. If you want the dimensions for the full hull build, then someone else will have to chime in.

Dave

Re: Calling all SMS K�nig class fans

by Atma » Mon Mar 26, 2018 1:53 pm

Thanks for the answer, I feared that and I have to remove this extra level now without damage to my already finished model...thanks ICM.

Edit:Strange enough ICM's artwork depicts ??????? ???????? with correct bridge shape.

Re: Calling all SMS K�nig class fans

by Rick Milas » Mon Mar 26, 2018 11:55 am

I believe ICM's remdition with the extra bridge is incorrect. Markgraf may have had the upper bridge added around 1917, but I do not believe Grosser Kurfurst ever had it.

Re: Calling all SMS K�nig class fans

by Atma » Mon Mar 26, 2018 11:49 am

drasticplastic wrote:Just guessing, but the photo of Grosser Kurfurst still has torpedo nets and booms - maybe an earlier date, and the model with the enclosed bridge was from a later date?
:wave_1:
Sorry the ICM model in the picture is without torpedo nets cause it might be a test model but the actual released model has torpedo nets and state that is a 1915 SMS Grosser Kurfurst.

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