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Re: RAF: Don't wear uniforms in public

by Laurent » Tue Mar 11, 2008 2:14 pm

Hi all ,

I go each day at my work in uniform , some guys look odd at me , but what the hell , if they're not happy , they just don't have to look at me :big_grin:

got sometimes problems with those long haired bearded pacifists , who wear those sandals with no socks , they dont like uniforms , Army , Navy , whatever .

My answer to this is quite simple :

If I wasn't there , or if my predecessors weren't there , those pacifists would now walk around with their right arm stretched , shouting "Heil" to someone with a brown or black uniform , they just would be there shutting their big mouths & p*ssing their pants .

last time I got piss*d off at one of those weirdos , who told me that Army/Navy men were just plain morons .

"Yeah right ! you know , I'm a Navy man because I'm indeed a moron . But who is the biggest moron between us , me because I'm paid to do nothing , or you , because you pay a lot of taxes to pay me to do nothing , he ?"

the guy was quiet after that , hehe !

Regards ,

Laurent

Re: RAF: Don't wear uniforms in public

by bengtsson » Tue Mar 11, 2008 12:33 pm

Nothing new here! Anyone old enough to have been in the service of the USA in the 1969-72 timeframe can remember not wanting to go off ship or base with one's uniform on. We were second class citizens in every sense of the word. It still pisses me off. At least my 'Iraq war veteran' family members are shown some respect, alot more than we ever got.

Bob B.

Re: RAF: Don't wear uniforms in public

by Lesforan » Sat Mar 08, 2008 5:57 pm

When I read this, my mind immediately recalled the days of our returning VietNam Vets to places like San Francisco and the reception they were subject to. Then I got to Walt's posting and he said it better than I could.

It seems to me that we have indeed forgotten the events of Sept. 11 and the impact they had on this country. London suffered its own terror attack and should know better than to behave this way.

It speaks very poorly of a country when its military personnel are advised not to wear their uniforms in public. This is not a problem in this part of the country, or anywhere else here yet. I hope it never happens again.

Re: RAF: Don't wear uniforms in public

by Walt » Sat Mar 08, 2008 3:46 pm

As a Vietnam Veteran who has witnessed some of the same attention and have been discriminated against in both schoola and workplace and have comrades who have had worse done to them all I can say is it will only get worse.....ignore them all they want is attention.

Re: RAF: Don't wear uniforms in public

by Werner » Fri Mar 07, 2008 9:02 am

Chris_uk wrote:I think its DISGUSTING . I think its just a bunch of ingrates who have nothing better to do . They would be the first to pooh their pants when something closer to home happens . I think servicemen should wear their uniform with pride. After all its to them we owe our freedom and to those that are sadly no longer with us .
Sadly, it's really not a new phenomena. Recognize the following?
Kipling wrote: I went into a public-'ouse to get a pint o'beer,
The publican 'e up an' sez, "We serve no red-coats here."
The girls be'ind the bar they laughed an' giggled fit to die,
I outs into the street again an' to myself sez I:

O it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "Tommy, go away";
But it's ``Thank you, Mister Atkins,'' when the band begins to play,
The band begins to play, my boys, the band begins to play,
O it's ``Thank you, Mr. Atkins,'' when the band begins to play.

I went into a theatre as sober as could be,
They gave a drunk civilian room, but 'adn't none for me;
They sent me to the gallery or round the music-'alls,
But when it comes to fightin', Lord! they'll shove me in the stalls!

For it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "Tommy, wait outside";
But it's "Special train for Atkins" when the trooper's on the tide,
The troopship's on the tide, my boys, the troopship's on the tide,
O it's "Special train for Atkins" when the trooper's on the tide.

Yes, makin' mock o' uniforms that guard you while you sleep
Is cheaper than them uniforms, an' they're starvation cheap;
An' hustlin' drunken soldiers when they're goin' large a bit
Is five times better business than paradin' in full kit.

Then it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "Tommy how's yer soul?"
But it's "Thin red line of 'eroes" when the drums begin to roll,
The drums begin to roll, my boys, the drums begin to roll,
O it's "Thin red line of 'eroes" when the drums begin to roll.

We aren't no thin red 'eroes, nor we aren't no blackguards too,
But single men in barricks, most remarkable like you;
An' if sometimes our conduck isn't all your fancy paints:
Why, single men in barricks don't grow into plaster saints;

While it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "Tommy, fall be'ind,"
But it's "Please to walk in front, sir," when there's trouble in the wind,
There's trouble in the wind, my boys, there's trouble in the wind,
O it's "Please to walk in front, sir," when there's trouble in the wind.

You talk o' better food for us, an' schools, an' fires an' all:
We'll wait for extry rations if you treat us rational.
Don't mess about the cook-room slops, but prove it to our face
The Widow's Uniform is not the soldier-man's disgrace.

For it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "Chuck him out, the brute!"
But it's "Saviour of 'is country," when the guns begin to shoot;
An' it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' anything you please;
But Tommy ain't a bloomin' fool - you bet that Tommy sees!

Re: RAF: Don't wear uniforms in public

by Werner » Fri Mar 07, 2008 8:58 am

hood wrote:sadly this is getting common . there have being reports of service personall refused service in petrol stations, and windows broke in their homes, and worse of all wounded soliders being abused in hospitals while recovering . this goverment has totally broke the convenant tween services and goverment .
Sounds broke in an area not measured in Pounds and Pence.

Re: RAF: Don't wear uniforms in public

by Chris_uk » Fri Mar 07, 2008 3:37 am

I think its DISGUSTING . I think its just a bunch of ingrates who have nothing better to do . They would be the first to pooh their pants when something closer to home happens . I think servicemen should wear their uniform with pride. After all its to them we owe our freedom and to those that are sadly no longer with us .

Re: RAF: Don't wear uniforms in public

by hood » Fri Mar 07, 2008 3:16 am

sadly this is getting common . there have being reports of service personall refused service in petrol stations, and windows broke in their homes, and worse of all wounded soliders being abused in hospitals while recovering . this goverment has totally broke the convenant tween services and goverment .

RAF: Don't wear uniforms in public

by Werner » Thu Mar 06, 2008 6:19 pm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/camb ... 282348.stm
BBC wrote: Airmen told 'no uniforms in city'

Airmen have been told to avoid leaving an RAF base in uniform amid fears they could be abused by civilians.

Officers at RAF Wittering fear that residents of nearby Peterborough who oppose UK involvement in Afghanistan and Iraq will taunt servicemen.

Although military staff are encouraged to wear uniform in public, a local decision was made against doing so in the city, the Ministry of Defence said.

Cambridgeshire police said they did not know of any abuse reported in the city.

A spokesman for RAF Wittering said staff from the base had reported incidents of abuse "up the military chain of command".

He said acting on advice from RAF police, the station commander had then taken the decision that staff should not wear uniforms off-site.

Defence Secretary Des Browne said: "We must defend our forces' right to wear their uniforms in public.

"It is a great shame that some individuals in this community don't respect our forces - who are daily doing a great deal for this nation.

"This is not a situation we should tolerate. We learned about this today and are investigating it as a matter of urgency.

"I hope that by working closely with Peterborough City Council and the local police, service personnel at RAF Wittering will soon be able to wear their uniforms freely about the town with the support of the local people."

RAF Wittering was established in 1916 and more than 2,000 servicemen and women are based at the station, which is best-known for housing a fleet of Harrier jump jets

Air Chief Marshall Sir Glenn Torpy, said: "Whatever people's views are about specific military operations, everyone should be able to recognise the bravery and professionalism of our Armed Forces and respect the difficult job they do."

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