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by **woody** » Tue Mar 03, 2009 11:33 am

Charleston...

I would not use tung oil with acrylics. They will react with each other over time. Not sure about enamels. Also, question for anyone using the strips to plank the decks, are you removing the smaller fittings and adding them later, or are you working around them? Anyone tring to simulate the black caulking used to seal between timbers?

by **sixman** » Wed Feb 11, 2009 1:22 pm

Using an HO scale 1 x 3 for planking would give a width (in 1/350 scale) og slightly over 12" in width. Is that an accurate width for WWII battleships?

by **Hank45** » Fri Jan 23, 2009 10:07 am

Do you glue all the hardware on the deck such as coulings, vents, etc. before you start the planking? What do you use to cut the pieces of planking ? Thanks for your answers, Hank45

by **Charlestonguy** » Sun Jan 18, 2009 5:38 pm

Elvis965 wrote:
Charlestonguy wrote:has anyone used tung oil?
I don't know about that, Arthur. Plank a small piece and try it to see how it comes out.

Bob

When my planks arrive I'll give it a shot, if it turns out I'll post a picture.

update;
The planks are here, I took a picture of one laid down on the deck of my 1/75 scale bireme. It looks like this will work just fine. I'll post more after I have them installed.

by **Elvis965** » Sun Jan 18, 2009 10:21 am

Charlestonguy wrote:has anyone used tung oil?

I don't know about that, Arthur. Plank a small piece and try it to see how it comes out.

amiers wrote:How realalistic are the colours on these decks?

If you're asking about the Nautilus decks, there is no color to them other than the dark brown left from the laser etching. You have to paint them.

If you're asking about the KA Models decks you posted the link to, I have no idea. I've never used them.

Bob

by **amiers** » Sat Jan 17, 2009 7:58 am

How realalistic are the colours on these decks? i have always thought Bismarck had a very pale one tone decl colour? http://www.hlj.com/product/kalmd35003

by **Charlestonguy** » Fri Jan 16, 2009 9:59 am

has anyone used tung oil?

by **Elvis965** » Fri Jan 16, 2009 6:46 am

Richard used Floquil wood sealer for his, Ron used a couple light coats of shellac on his.

I've only planked a small test piece for my Arizona to determine if I wanted to use 1cm or 2cm pieces. 2cm quickly won out! But that's on hold for the moment since I'm working on a Kitty Hawk for someone else.

I don't think I'm going to do anything to my Arizona deck, though. I think the untreated wood has a nice bleached teak look to it already.

Last time I asked Martin, he was still on the fence about what he was going to do with Bismarck.

Bob

by **Charlestonguy** » Thu Jan 15, 2009 11:52 pm

Thanks Elvis965 you gave some great examples especially the remarks by Peter on his build.
I'm going to try the plank method first and see how that goes. What kind of sealer would be best?

by **Elvis965** » Thu Jan 15, 2009 6:45 pm

The only problem with the Nautilus decks is they are laser cut onto a single sheet of basswood, so you have the grain of that sheet of basswood in the decking.

It needs to be sealed before you paint or stain it.

It can be gorgeous when done right:

Richard Sliwka's Bogue
http://www.modelshipgallery.com/gallery ... index.html

Ron Smith's Langley
http://www.modelshipgallery.com/gallery ... index.html

But if you do it wrong, you end up with a laser scribed deck that also shows the grain of the piece of basswood they used for it.

Peter Van Buren bought one for his Saratoga and ended up throwing it away (but he still built a heck of a Sara)
http://www.modelshipgallery.com/gallery ... index.html

I have one for an Essex SCB-27A conversion that I haven't started, mostly because the deck gives me the creeps whenever I look at it!

Bob

by **Charlestonguy** » Thu Jan 15, 2009 5:22 pm

Looks like a quick way to lay down more deck faster.
http://nautilusmodels.com/99-500.htm

Thanks

by **Hank45** » Thu Jan 15, 2009 1:49 pm

I received an e-mail from Hugh Lottie at hugh1lottie2@earthlink.net about a site for wood decks located at natutilus hobbies.com interesting site have a looksee. Hank45

by **Charlestonguy** » Wed Jan 14, 2009 9:34 pm

Elvis965 wrote:Hi Arthur,

Here are a couple pics of the lumber. Yes, I did get it from Northeastern.

These are HO scale 1x3's in the 22" length.

The plastic strip I have in the pics is a .010" x .060" styrene strip.

Bob

I just placed my order tonight, thanks for the pictures!

Arthur

by **Elvis965** » Wed Jan 14, 2009 8:42 pm

Hi Arthur,

Here are a couple pics of the lumber. Yes, I did get it from Northeastern.

These are HO scale 1x3's in the 22" length.

The plastic strip I have in the pics is a .010" x .060" styrene strip.

Bob

by **Charlestonguy** » Wed Jan 14, 2009 6:33 pm

Elvis965 wrote:
Charelstonguy wrote:Did that come in a scribed sheet?
Nope....it comes in long, thin strips, either 11" or 22", and we get the fun of chopping them up into little pieces. 1cm pieces are about what's right for 1/350 planks, but I'm doing 2cm just because I'd like to get done sometime this century!!!!!

Check out Martin's Bismarck:

viewtopic.php?f=59&t=24466&st=0&sk=t&sd=a

When I get home I'll try and snap a pic of one of the strips for you.

Bob

Oh my.....well I think it will be worth the effort anyway. Yes I would love to see how it looks in progress. Did you buy from Northeastern Scale Lumber?
Thanks Bob

Arthur

by **Elvis965** » Wed Jan 14, 2009 3:36 pm

Charelstonguy wrote:Did that come in a scribed sheet?

Nope....it comes in long, thin strips, either 11" or 22", and we get the fun of chopping them up into little pieces. 1cm pieces are about what's right for 1/350 planks, but I'm doing 2cm just because I'd like to get done sometime this century!!!!!

Check out Martin's Bismarck:

viewtopic.php?f=59&t=24466&st=0&sk=t&sd=a

When I get home I'll try and snap a pic of one of the strips for you.

Bob

by **Charlestonguy** » Wed Jan 14, 2009 2:31 pm

Elvis965 wrote:
Charlestonguy wrote:How thick is the planking?
It's about .010".

I'm planking the deck of a 1/350 Arizona (eventually), and I tested it against .010" & .020" styrene because I had to redo the scuppers on the boat deck & the anchor chain runs, and it worked best against .010".

Against .020", there was a notieable lip above the wood.

Bob

Thanks, that looks like it just might work for my Heller kit. Did that come in a scribed sheet? I looked on the website and it was hard to tell if they were planks or sheets.

by **degrelle** » Wed Jan 14, 2009 11:24 am

Or try this...http://www.hlj.com/product/KALMD35003

by **Elvis965** » Wed Jan 14, 2009 9:49 am

Charlestonguy wrote:How thick is the planking?

It's about .010".

I'm planking the deck of a 1/350 Arizona (eventually), and I tested it against .010" & .020" styrene because I had to redo the scuppers on the boat deck & the anchor chain runs, and it worked best against .010".

Against .020", there was a notieable lip above the wood.

Bob

by **Charlestonguy** » Wed Jan 14, 2009 9:13 am

Guest wrote:
largeallan wrote:I saw a thread somewhere that showed the technique for putting wooden decks on a 1/350 bismarck.....I can't find it again, does anyone know where it can be found...................or a link to something similar?

thanks cats....Allan
Allan, the Bismarck you are referring to was built by Ed Keegan. It's in the Battleships gallery on this site. It sure is a beauty ! Ed used basically the same technique as Dan did. Ed suggested another company as well, Kapler Mill & Lumber Company. Here's the link: http://www.kapplerusa.com/y2k/p-ho-24b.htm I got the 1X3 size as I plan on doing a wooden deck as well some day. The wood strips are clean and uniform. I tested it out by planking a small piece of square Evergreen plastic and it looked great !

Good luck !

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How thick is the planking? Could you please post a picture of what it looks like? I was thinking of using it on a sailing ship deck.

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