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Large working model -- scale 1:100 -- composite hull -- brass structures

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Mounted on wooden base with acryllic dust cover.
Bolts can be loosened easily - structure can be lifted for easy access

Has been on loan for display at the museum.

Unique model of a Dutch built Glen liner - for sale

[b]S.S. Waroonga[/b]; another BRITISH & INDIA STEAM NAVIGATION steamship��

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[b]S.S. Waroonga[/b]; a steamship built for BRITISH & INDIA STEAM NAVIGATION LTD which transferred to the parent company P&O as [b]Pando Point[/b] in 1968

Builder - Barclay Curle, Whiteinch. Yard N�. 738.
[b][i][size=150]IMO 5386320[/size][/i][/b]
Laid Down � unknown.
Launched � 28th May 1957.
Service (B&I) 6th September 1957 to 1968.

Length 158.6 metres, breadth 20.9 metres. 8,753Grt.


Terry ([color=#800000][b]Caravellarella[/b][/color])

[b]M.V. Kweilin[/b]; another CHINA NAVIGATION motorship��

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[b]M.V. Kweilin[/b]; a motorship built for THE CHINA NAVIGATION COMPANY LTD (BUTTERFIELD & SWIRE).

Builder � Taikoo Dockyard, Hong Kong. Yard N�. 473.
[b][i][size=150]IMO 5198747[/size][/i][/b]
Laid Down � unknown.
Launched � 12th September 1961.
Service (China Navigation) January 1962 to 1974.

Length 128.7 metres, breadth 17.1 metres. 5,902Grt.


Terry ([color=#800000][b]Caravellarella[/b][/color])

[b]S.S. Woodarra[/b]; a BRITISH & INDIA STEAM NAVIGATION steamship��

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[b]S.S. Woodarra[/b]; a steamship built for BRITISH & INDIA STEAM NAVIGATION LTD which transferred to the parent company P&O as [b]Pando Gulf[/b] in 1968

Builder - Barclay Curle, Whiteinch. Yard N�. 737.
[b][i][size=150]IMO 5392678[/size][/i][/b]
Laid Down � unknown.
Launched � 22nd November 1956.
Service (B&I) 10th April 1957 to 1968.

Length 158.5 metres, breadth 20.9 metres. 8,753Grt.


Terry ([color=#800000][b]Caravellarella[/b][/color])

[b]M.V. Chungking[/b]; a CHINA NAVIGATION motorship��

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[b]M.V. Chungking IV[/b]; a motorship built for THE CHINA NAVIGATION COMPANY LTD (BUTTERFIELD & SWIRE).

Builder - Taikoo Dockyard, Hong Kong. Yard N�. 403.
[b][i][size=150]IMO 5072412[/size][/i][/b]
Laid Down � unknown.
Launched � 7th December 1954.
Service (China Navigation) May 1955 to 1968.

Length 128.6 metres, breadth 17.1 metres. 6,830Grt.


Terry ([color=#800000][b]Caravellarella[/b][/color])

[b]S.S. Glenaffric[/b]; a Blue Funnel Line steamship in [b]Glen Line[/b] service......

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[b]S.S. GLENAFFRIC[/b]; a steamship built for OCEAN STEAM SHIP COMPANY LTD (BLUE FUNNEL LINE) as [b]Nestor[/b] and transferred to subsidiary GLEN LINE as [b]Glenaffric[/b] in 1968.

Builder � Caledon Shipbuilding & Engineering, Dundee. Yard N�. 485.
[b][i][size=150]IMO 5249596[/size][/i][/b]
Laid Down � unknown.
Launched � 23rd May 1952.
Service (Glen Line) December 1968 to 1972.

Length 149.1 metres, breadth 19.6 metres. 7,802Grt.


Terry ([color=#800000][b]Caravellarella[/b][/color])

Good news for collectors of post WWII professional models of merchant ships.
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The bulwark support structures are actually very simple. Two bar railing from an old Tom's Modelworks set glued to the styrene bulwarks. Krystal Klear painted on the stanchions from the supports as it builds up at the verticals. I've now painted theme in chrome yellow and dry brushed with dark gray to bring out the 'stanchions'. Including painting it took me about 1,5 hrs for the whole ship.
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Quite complicated superstructure as well as deck fittings in this scale! And they say I'm nuts with my gas carriers??? Good luck with this one Pieter!

Kloosterkerk/koudekerk is now down in priority to 1. Work and 2. Straat Clarence/Clement but she'll be finished this year I think.
Two times Straat Clarence
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Well actually the shipowners aren't really the problem. Back in those days, shipowners really sought for the "ideal" solution, the market was quite stable and ships were going on certain trades. Nowadays everybody buys the cheap Korean designs, so everybody has the same ships, yet the cargo requirements are very differing around the world, with a very volatile market. Instead of having optimal solutions, half the ships are sailing half loaded (burning still the same amount of fuel than fully loaded) and are doing operations for which they were never designed, so far for economic solutions. I can't really imagine that to be economically sound, as the one-time cheapness of the ship can't cope up with the losses caused by half cargoes and uneconomic hull designs. That is of course considering the long term life of the ship. Nowadays it looks like those ships won't really last for 20 years...

Nice pictures Terry, thank you for those! Pieter, I can't wait to see your ship advancing!

By going to http://beeldbank.amsterdam.nl and putting 'glenlyon' in the search box ('Zoeken') you can find a nice picture of Glenlyon at launch. Pictures from the beeldbank can be scaled and navigated using arrow in the picture. These are not public domain pictures, all rights are with the Amsterdam city archives.

Last week I finally managed to spend an afternoon at the Rotterdam maritime museum library. I ran across some small (1/500 ish) GA drawings made by the NDSM shipyard in the magazine 'Schip en Werf" as well as some pictures. I copied and scanned these pictures bit I don't think I can post them here due to copyright restrictions. So I used them along with the Bowen plans and Terry's pictures for making a pen and ink artist impression of Glenlyon . I tried to show the beauty of this early high speed hull and not so much the deck details. Anyone serious about doing a Glenlyon can contact me and we should be able to work something out.
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Dear [color=#800000][b]Pieter[/b][/color], can't wait to see your [b]Kloosterkerk[/b] model finished. I'm a big fan of this generation of fast motorship cargoliners......

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[b]M.V. FLINTSHIRE[/b]; one of a class of four motorships, Glenogle, Glenlyon, [i][b]Flintshire[/b][/i] and Glenfalloch.

Builder � N.V. C. van der Giessen Scheepswerven, Krimpen. Yard N�. 809.
[b][i][size=150]IMO 5116385[/size][/i][/b]
Laid down � unknown.
Launched - 18th June 1962.
Service (Glen Line) 12th December 1962 to 1977.

Length 165.75 metres, breadth 22.77 metres. 11,926Grt.


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[b]M.V. GLENFALLOCH[/b]; last a class of four motorships, Glenogle, Glenlyon, Flintshire and [i][b]Glenfalloch[/b][/i].

Builder � Fairfield Shipbuilding and Engineering Co. Ltd, Glasgow. Yard N�. 813.
[b][i][size=150]IMO 5404550[/size][/i][/b]
Laid down � unknown.
Launched 3rd July 1962.
Service (Glen Line) 26th November 1963 to October 1976.

Length 165.75 metres, breadth 22.77 metres. 11,918Grt.


Terry ([color=#800000][b]Caravellarella[/b][/color])

BTW, here's a small teaser for a project I've started recently based on drawings by H.A.Willemsen.
Kloosterkerk (no817) was built in 1964 to a very similar specification as Flintshire at the same yard but with a rather different design team (KNSM's technical bureau which designed all ships of the VNS). Their designs for VNS looked like yachts, not like freight liners. It seems that in the 1960's shipowner still had enough freedom from the shareholders en the economists to be able to afford different design styles.
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Bowen's drawings are good enough for 1/700 WL I think so I did not do much research myself. All three yards have ceased to exist. Model Shipwright (Conway?) may have some info concerning Fairfield's. NDSM closed in 1982 and NDSM's archives are currently with the Nederlands Scheepvaartmuseum in Amsterdam. This will be closed until at least the summer of 2011. Van der Giessen - De Noord closed in 2003 and was bought up by SBM-Offshore. I'm not sure about the whereabouts of the old drawings archive. Maybe try to contact SBM directly?

Thank you [color=#800000][b]Pieter[/b][/color], I suppose the term "bulbous bow" was valid for 1962 in comparison to the usual bow forms of the time. Look forward to seeing your [b]Tjisaroea[/b] and [b]Tjisadane[/b]. Do you know where I can get plans for a [b]Glenlyon[/b] class motorship? The drawings in the Bowen book aren't really suitable for anything bigger than 1/1200 scale......

Here's another image of [b]M.V. Glenlyon[/b] for you......
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[b]M.V. GLENLYON[/b]; name-ship of a class of four motorships, Glenogle, [i][b]Glenlyon[/b][/i], Flintshire and Glenfalloch.

Builder � Nederlandsche Dok en Scheepsbouw Maatschappij VOF, Amsterdam. Yard N�. 510.
[b][i][size=150]IMO 5132028[/size][/i][/b]
Laid down � unknown.
Launched - 17th March 1962.
Service (Glen Line) 19th October 1962 to October 1976.

Length 165.75 metres, breadth 22.77 metres. 11,918Grt.


Terry ([color=#800000][b]Caravellarella[/b][/color])

Hi Terry, we seem to share some favorite designs. Glenlyon was built about one klick from where I'm writing this and she is on my 'to do' list. If I ever finish Tjisaroea and Tjisadane that is. However, the Glenlyon class did have a high speed hull form but according to the launch picture of Glenogle in More Miniature Merchant Ships by John Bowen they did not have the big bulbous bows which were in fashion at the time but rather a more subtle widening forefoot, like the bow of the New Jersey class battleships.
[quote="Caravellarella"]Dear [color=#800000][b]Boys[/b][/color] & [color=#800000][b]Girls[/b][/color], in case my current topics

They had bulbous bows, a high-speed hull-form and were powered by a 18,000bhp Sulzer diesel engine which allowed a minimum 21 knot speed with the reserves to go to 24 knots to maintain schedules.

Here is a more typical [b]P&O[/b] ship from the mid 1950s; [b]M.V. Salmara[/b]......

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[b]M.V. SALMARA[/b]; one of a class of two motorships for the London-India/Far East route, [i][b]Salmara[/b][/i] and Salsette. Named for a town in Bihar State in India, she transferred to a subsidiary as ARAKAWA of Eastern & Australian Steamship Co. Ltd in September 1966, and then to another as TEESTA of British India Steam Navigation Co. Ltd in October 1971. She returned to the parent company P&O in April 1973 and was renamed STRATHLOYAL in 1977.

Builder � John Brown and Company (Clydebank) Ltd. Yard N�. 687.
[b][i][size=150]IMO 5307922[/size][/i][/b]
Launched - 25th June 1956.
Service (P&O Group) 15th November 1958 to January 1978.

Length 152.3 metres, breadth 19.7 metres. 8,199Grt.


Terry ([color=#800000][b]Caravellarella[/b][/color])

Some more pictures of [b]S.S. Patonga[/b]......

in her original [b]P&O[/b] livery......
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in post-1971 [b]P&O[/b] livery, with a blue & white funnel......
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[b]S.S. PATONGA[/b]; a one-off reefer steamship built for P&O�s London � Australia route. Named for the coastal village in New South Wales, Australia. She was renamed Strathlauder on 28th May 1975.

Builder � Alexander Stephen and Sons Ltd, Glasgow. Yard N�. 637.
[b][i][size=150]IMO 5271630[/size][/i][/b]
Ordered - May 1946.
Laid down - February 1947.
Launched -11th August 1953.
Service (P&O) 7th December 1953 to 19th September 1977.

Length 152.3 metres, breadth 19.7 metres. 10,071Grt.


Terry ([color=#800000][b]Caravellarella[/b][/color])