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Re: Measure 1 Question

by Tracy White » Sun Jun 06, 2010 1:26 am

Actually Russ, it ain't... he's asking a much more specific question.

It depends on how closely you want to follow Measure 1. There were some ships painted in something similar to it during some 1939 experiments in the Pacific... but using different paints. There was a "Deck Dark Gray" but the vertical surfaces were painted black; the creation of 5-D was one of the suggestions that came out of these experiments, in fact.

Otherwise, for stock Measure 1, I would say your guess about the Atlantic is correct; some documents I uncovered suggests that the west coast had trouble getting all of the ingredients they needed:
http://www.researcheratlarge.com/Ships/ ... cture.html

For anything more specific than that someone is going to need to go through records of up to three archives that I can think of (College Park, Philly PA, maybe Boston); these will contain the records of the CNO, BuShips, Norfolk Navy Yard (responsible for manufacturing all of the paint for the Atlantic fleet at the time), and Boston Navy Yard. Perhaps the records for the New York Navy Yard as well....I'm not sure where Bittenger's office was.

Re: Measure 1 Question

by Russ2146 » Sat Jun 05, 2010 9:53 pm

All the information you are seeking is on the ship camouflage site, by class and then by ship.
http://www.shipcamouflage.com/camouflage_database.htm

Measure 1 Question

by BLKCPA » Sat Jun 05, 2010 3:46 pm

Gentlemen,

I was wondering if any of us warship experts know of the first ships painted in the prewar Measure 1. I figure it would have been with ships of the Atlantic Fleet so the measure could be evaluated by the Navy Department in Washington before being passed on to fleet in the Pacific.

I'm specifically looking for the CV, BB, CA, CL, & DD. I may be completely wrong in suppossing the measure would be tried with the Atlantic Fleet.

I ask because I am placing an order for some paints soon. Since I'm trying to build my prewar fleet from the last half of 1940, before the general adoption of Measure 1, I want to do a ship of each in that scheme and I'm figuring that since it took a few months before a fleetwide measure was adopted, in the case of Measure 1 that would be January 1941, I could do the prototype ship. Also, would I be wrong in suppossing that a flagship would not be a prototype ship so the Admirals coould observe the measures effectiveness.

BLK

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