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Re: Russian Circular Ironclad NOVGOROD, 1/100

by Egberth » Tue May 31, 2011 11:09 am

Oh, and BTW: still completed :cool_2:

Re: Russian Circular Ironclad NOVGOROD, 1/100

by DariusP » Wed Mar 02, 2011 5:34 pm

Thanks!

Re: Russian Circular Ironclad NOVGOROD, 1/100

by Egberth » Wed Mar 02, 2011 5:14 pm

These are the coverings of the companionways. They are not clearly to be seen on the photos (maybe they were added after the first sea-trials) but the half-model in the Muse� de Marine in Paris has them also.

Re: Russian Circular Ironclad NOVGOROD, 1/100

by DariusP » Tue Mar 01, 2011 11:20 pm

Egberth I am curious... What are those?
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Re: Russian Circular Ironclad NOVGOROD, 1/100

by Egberth » Tue Mar 01, 2011 2:33 am

Well, it behaves like a drunken sailor: Very maneuverable but unable to steer in a straight line.

Re: Russian Circular Ironclad NOVGOROD, 1/100

by DariusP » Sun Feb 27, 2011 2:32 pm

What a great looking model Egberth :thumbs_up_1: But, like Dave, I am curious about how does it behaves itself on the water?

Re: Russian Circular Ironclad NOVGOROD, 1/100

by Guest » Sun Feb 27, 2011 8:25 am

Thank you Dave,

It was not seamanship more luck and knowing the quirks of handling a frisbee!!
She tends to crab about a bit rather than running a straight and true course.

The model in this thread is far better than my attempt, I was hindered by pre internet and accurate drawings for my model. which was started in 1988, and only completed to a half decent standard in 2007.
Since then i have managed to gather a lot of decent quality info on Novgorod from a friend in Russia,

I love the finished Kiev model by the way!

Ian

Re: Russian Circular Ironclad NOVGOROD, 1/100

by Dave Wooley » Thu Feb 24, 2011 5:42 am

I remember 3 years back seeing a build of the Novgorod competing in the UKs national STEERING championships for scale ships. It was almost impossible to see how he could steer this vessel in a straight line let alone turn the vessel in any desired direction but he did and gained a first placing just an amazing bit of helmsmanship.
Dave Wooley :thumbs_up_1: :thumbs_up_1: :thumbs_up_1: :wave_1:

Re: Russian Circular Ironclad NOVGOROD, 1/100

by Alexey Nikitin » Thu Feb 24, 2011 3:19 am

Hello!
Me the information on the ship Vice-Admiral Popov interests.
Who can help?

Re: Russian Circular Ironclad NOVGOROD, 1/100

by kennylibben » Thu Feb 24, 2011 1:44 am

Great build, I've always been fascinated with the round ships. Wish I had those molds!

Re: Russian Circular Ironclad NOVGOROD, 1/100

by Egberth » Thu Feb 24, 2011 1:18 am

tweety777 wrote: One of your props seems to be cavitating big deal.
...
Cavitation can be seen because of the bubbles behind the prop.
Not really. It's just because the props are only a few milimeters
underneath the water surface. As you can see in the pictures the ship is
propelled with two bell-shaped rotor motors. These are usually
slow-runners. With those it is absolutly impossible to get an
cavation-effect (unless of course the prop get's partially out of the
water - which may happen depending on waves - but that would result in
hyper-cavitation). Cavitation can appear at the propellers of RC racing-boats, where it lowers the speed of the boat. On the other hand hyper-cavitation is sometimes an appreciated effect (created by hydro-props that are only half-immersed) because it reduces the friction of the propeller.
That could destroy it in not all too much time.
Lord, no! That's a model-making-legend. Cavitation may cause destructive problems
with real-size propellers but not with the propellers of our little
ships. The bubbles and as a result the implosion-jet are just too small
to have any effect on the propeller's surface. It may cause a decrease
of effectiveness of propulsion but as far as propulsion ist concerned
cavatation is the most minor problem concerning a round ship without an
effective rudder.

Re: Russian Circular Ironclad NOVGOROD, 1/100

by tweety777 » Fri Feb 18, 2011 3:13 am

It looks pretty good indeed!!

One of your props seems to be cavitating big deal.
That could destroy it in not all too much time.
Cavitation can be seen because of the bubbles behind the prop.
Cavitation is water starting to boil because of low pressure at the suction side of the prop.
As soon as the pressure rises again at the other side of the prop the bubbles caused by the boiling water implode releasing quite a lot of pressure, which can damage the prop and anything else in the area.
I don't know how you can solve this problem, having it turn slower does help.
If you want to be able to maintain topspeed you'll need to try adjusting the blades carefully and test when the bubbles are gone.

Greetings Josse

Re: Russian Circular Ironclad NOVGOROD, 1/100

by noplate » Fri Feb 18, 2011 1:07 am

I''ve always been intrigued by this ship. Thanks for pulling it out into three dimensions! A fine, fine build :thumbs_up_1: :thumbs_up_1: :thumbs_up_1:

This is also the first time I've heard of resin soaking paper for hard-to-reproduce items. Could you describe how you did that - what kind of resin, paper, etc? I'm itching to try that!

Re: Russian Circular Ironclad NOVGOROD, 1/100

by Richard J OMalley » Thu Feb 17, 2011 5:37 pm

Thanks for the education :big_grin:

Re: Russian Circular Ironclad NOVGOROD, 1/100

by VladimirT » Thu Feb 17, 2011 3:20 pm

Richard J OMalley wrote:Being round ,how could anyone tell which way it was going or was that the idea ? :huh: Great job on something realy different . :thumbs_up_1: :thumbs_up_1: :thumbs_up_1:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_ba ... p_Novgorod
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Re: Russian Circular Ironclad NOVGOROD, 1/100

by Richard J OMalley » Thu Feb 17, 2011 3:06 pm

Being round ,how could anyone tell which way it was going or was that the idea ? :huh: Great job on something realy different . :thumbs_up_1: :thumbs_up_1: :thumbs_up_1:

Re: Russian Circular Ironclad NOVGOROD, 1/100

by VladimirT » Thu Feb 17, 2011 2:09 pm

And last but not least a video of the ship on the water:

http://www.smc-wuppertal.de/Schiffe/Nov ... %20028.avi[/quote]

This is fantastic!
:woo_hoo:
:thumbs_up_1:

Re: Russian Circular Ironclad NOVGOROD, 1/100

by Capit�o Norbert » Thu Feb 17, 2011 6:34 am

i love it - fantastic :thumbs_up_1: :thumbs_up_1:

Re: Russian Circular Ironclad NOVGOROD, 1/100

by Richard J OMalley » Thu Feb 17, 2011 6:07 am

Impressive :thumbs_up_1: :thumbs_up_1: :thumbs_up_1:

Re: Russian Circular Ironclad NOVGOROD, 1/100

by Egberth » Thu Feb 17, 2011 1:57 am

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