The Ship Model Forum

Hi Olaf,

Thanks in advance!

I have been analysing the diagrams I have of Emden/Dresden, and it occurs to me that these cruisers were built with a constant uniform frame spacing of 1000mm or 1 metre (as opposed to the German WW1 battleships and battlecruisers, which had a uniform frame spacing of 1200mm, I'm pretty sure of that.)

Can you confirm this or am I mistaken?

At least the German shipbuilding practice seems to be using much more uniform measurements (and rounded figures!) than say the British, which seemed to be using a plethora of dimensions within one ship, take f.i. a Tribal class or HMS Hood: I've worked out complete frame spacing schemes for these, but oh boy! Frame spaces ranging from 18" up to 48", going up and down and so on...

Maarten

Hi Maarten ~ Many thanks for the clarification.

I don't have plans of the ships you mentioned, but I have a small archive nearby at the [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naval_Academy_at_M%C3%BCrwik]Naval Academy at M�rwik[/url] which I wanted to visit anyway. Watch this space!

Happy watching ~ Olaf!

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Hi Joe ~ Please help me helping you, what are 'stations' on a ship? Or a 'lofted' hull? The latter I can image has something to do with the ship's plan ...
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Hi Olaf,

I just found this email when searching detail data of SMS N�rnberg.

In aircraft engineering a 'station diagram' is (generally) a side view showing all fuselage ('hull') frames with their dimensional distance (in X-direction) to the zero plane, usually but not always, the tip of the aircraft nose. The 'stations', in fact the frames or better their positions, are designated by their distance in inches from that zero point.

So this compares very well with the frame diagram of a ship, provided that all the frame spacings are known, which is often the case.

Do you happen to have something like this from the K�nigsberg, N�rnberg or Dresden classes?

I think that a 'lofted hull' means the waterline or butt line diagram of the hull.

Maarten

Hi Joe Try these for starters . They contain all you need and much more, at least for the Hipper. I used these for some useful references to build Blucher.
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Dave Wooley :thumbs_up_1: :wave_1:

In the 1990s, Bernard & Graefe Verlag published a series entitled [u]Vom Original zum Modell[/u] which encompassed HIPPER, PRINZ EUGEN, and the DEUTSCHLAND class. These books included the lines and sections; you could also buy larger scale versions of the drawings.

The Floating Drydock [url]http://www.floatingdrydock.com[/url] offers plans with lines and sections for NURNBURG and PRINZ EUGEN.

Al Ross

Hi Joe ~ Please help me helping you, what are 'stations' on a ship? Or a 'lofted' hull? The latter I can image has something to do with the ship's plan ... :huh:

Happy modelling ~ Olaf!

I have all kinds of books on these ships and some factory drawings, However not 1 shows the stations for these ships. Would anyone have any station views for any of the following ships, and if not is there some ship modeling thing im not aware of that you can create a lofted hull with out stations and have it accurate?

Joe

[color=#FF0040]Heavy Cruisers[/color]

Prinz Eugen

Admiral Hipper

Deutschland

[color=#FF0040]Light Crusiers[/color]

Nurnberg

Konigsberg

[color=#FF0040]Raiders[/color]

Atlantis

Michel