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[quote="DavidP"]if you are talking about that can shape object under the center bridge window then no it is not a mini gun as appears to have the ship's crest on it.[/quote]

No I meant the gun under the starboard bridge wing. Directly under the GPMG.

Thanks for the photos! I think the lower MG position, under the bridge is a minigun?

Machine gun positions on HMS Dragon:

[url=http://postimg.org/image/jxyuo364x/][img]http://s24.postimg.org/jxyuo364x/machine_gun_aft.jpg[/img][/url] [url=http://postimg.org/image/4drgxjw0h/][img]http://s24.postimg.org/4drgxjw0h/machine_gun_fore.jpg[/img][/url]

HMS Dauntless

[url=http://postimg.org/image/vx9zt1gen/][img]http://s27.postimg.org/vx9zt1gen/25_5215_3e406d3ca6d433d.jpg[/img][/url] [url=http://postimg.org/image/mgk6mewjz/][img]http://s27.postimg.org/mgk6mewjz/c136ad1c_e53d_42c7_a78e_796accaf1358_Full.jpg[/img][/url] [url=http://postimg.org/image/qcsx4ns5r/][img]http://s27.postimg.org/qcsx4ns5r/dauntless.jpg[/img][/url] [url=http://postimg.org/image/5emr6ksb3/][img]http://s27.postimg.org/5emr6ksb3/DSCN2747.jpg[/img][/url]

[url=http://postimg.org/image/78zlobfbj/][img]http://s27.postimg.org/78zlobfbj/HMS_Dauntless_Wallpaper_3pk7o.jpg[/img][/url] [url=http://postimg.org/image/7oavhc18v/][img]http://s27.postimg.org/7oavhc18v/hms_dauntless_andy_in_dock_26_06_2009_12_06_02.jpg[/img][/url] [url=http://postimg.org/image/kgyzh9cun/][img]http://s27.postimg.org/kgyzh9cun/img_15_24646_6.jpg[/img][/url] [url=http://postimg.org/image/83m5acn67/][img]http://s27.postimg.org/83m5acn67/img_15_28349_0.jpg[/img][/url]

[url=http://postimg.org/image/izi4jfxhr/][img]http://s27.postimg.org/izi4jfxhr/p1000425i.jpg[/img][/url] [url=http://postimg.org/image/5xwftl93j/][img]http://s27.postimg.org/5xwftl93j/Type_45_Destroyer_HMS_Dauntless_MOD_45154390.jpg[/img][/url] [url=http://postimg.org/image/ncgo1v68f/][img]http://s27.postimg.org/ncgo1v68f/Type_45_Destroyer_HMS_Dauntless_MOD_45154391.jpg[/img][/url]

Harpoons!!! They are equiped with Harpoon missiles!!! :woo_hoo: :woo_hoo:

Some photos I found online:

HMS Dragon

[url=http://postimg.org/image/rj2nno2mt/][img]http://s18.postimg.org/rj2nno2mt/45j_07.jpg[/img][/url] [url=http://postimg.org/image/amdkv8v2t/][img]http://s18.postimg.org/amdkv8v2t/45j_08.jpg[/img][/url] [url=http://postimg.org/image/l2toxku39/][img]http://s18.postimg.org/l2toxku39/45j_09.jpg[/img][/url] [url=http://postimg.org/image/71hpc0qj9/][img]http://s18.postimg.org/71hpc0qj9/45j_10.jpg[/img][/url]

[url=http://postimg.org/image/5imb71jyt/][img]http://s18.postimg.org/5imb71jyt/45j_11.jpg[/img][/url] [url=http://postimg.org/image/707riloph/][img]http://s18.postimg.org/707riloph/45j_12.jpg[/img][/url] [url=http://postimg.org/image/bsm67s8r9/][img]http://s18.postimg.org/bsm67s8r9/45j_13.jpg[/img][/url] [url=http://postimg.org/image/c2tor4ndh/][img]http://s18.postimg.org/c2tor4ndh/45j_14.jpg[/img][/url]

[url=http://postimg.org/image/87qaok47p/][img]http://s18.postimg.org/87qaok47p/45j_15.jpg[/img][/url] [url=http://postimg.org/image/fdi1r0dat/][img]http://s18.postimg.org/fdi1r0dat/45j_16.jpg[/img][/url] [url=http://postimg.org/image/txz4lu89h/][img]http://s18.postimg.org/txz4lu89h/45j_17.jpg[/img][/url] [url=http://postimg.org/image/5nunuggnp/][img]http://s18.postimg.org/5nunuggnp/110831_2.jpg[/img][/url]

[url=http://postimg.org/image/93ms40dw5/][img]http://s18.postimg.org/93ms40dw5/141027_HMS_Dragon_deployment_01.jpg[/img][/url] [url=http://postimg.org/image/l4884qlat/][img]http://s18.postimg.org/l4884qlat/141027_HMS_Dragon_deployment_04.jpg[/img][/url] [url=http://postimg.org/image/ljjhxr785/][img]http://s18.postimg.org/ljjhxr785/1915750.jpg[/img][/url] [url=http://postimg.org/image/yhfyl3fit/][img]http://s18.postimg.org/yhfyl3fit/45153123.jpg[/img][/url]

[url=http://postimg.org/image/itoep5vmd/][img]http://s18.postimg.org/itoep5vmd/58352366.jpg[/img][/url] [url=http://postimg.org/image/hbopp05sl/][img]http://s18.postimg.org/hbopp05sl/1342473815_royal_navy_type_45_destroyer_hms_drag.jpg[/img][/url] [url=http://postimg.org/image/y8idv62qd/][img]http://s18.postimg.org/y8idv62qd/7866327180_26f0b81a25_b.jpg[/img][/url] [url=http://postimg.org/image/fmk7uofh1/][img]http://s18.postimg.org/fmk7uofh1/article_0_0_DA4_B80_A00000578_862_964x515.jpg[/img][/url]

[url=http://postimg.org/image/ctr0anf4l/][img]http://s18.postimg.org/ctr0anf4l/article_2032581_0_DA4_B8_FE00000578_803_964x533.jpg[/img][/url] [url=http://postimg.org/image/x52uwy7h1/][img]http://s18.postimg.org/x52uwy7h1/bow.jpg[/img][/url] [url=http://postimg.org/image/yipweihcl/][img]http://s18.postimg.org/yipweihcl/c07020c9.jpg[/img][/url] [url=http://postimg.org/image/5wwty4itx/][img]http://s18.postimg.org/5wwty4itx/HMS_Dragon_Type_45_destroyer_first_entry_to_Port.jpg[/img][/url]

[url=http://postimg.org/image/ej03iputx/][img]http://s18.postimg.org/ej03iputx/HMS_Dragon_in_Valletta_03.jpg[/img][/url] [url=http://postimg.org/image/bz922cwnp/][img]http://s18.postimg.org/bz922cwnp/HMS_Dragon_Near_Gibraltar_MOD_45155270.jpg[/img][/url] [url=http://postimg.org/image/suo71d2dx/][img]http://s18.postimg.org/suo71d2dx/HMS_Dragon_Near_Gibraltar_MOD_45155272.jpg[/img][/url] [url=http://postimg.org/image/l6wp5bec5/][img]http://s18.postimg.org/l6wp5bec5/JS36550339_JPG.jpg[/img][/url]

[url=http://postimg.org/image/hq4ad7az9/][img]http://s18.postimg.org/hq4ad7az9/Royal_Navy_Type_45_Destroyer_HMS_Dragon_MOD_4515.jpg[/img][/url] [url=http://postimg.org/image/a8q10vf4l/][img]http://s18.postimg.org/a8q10vf4l/Royal_Navy_Type_45_Destroyer_HMS_Dragon_MOD_4515.jpg[/img][/url] [url=http://postimg.org/image/aixjk7tqt/][img]http://s18.postimg.org/aixjk7tqt/The_Launch_of_Type_45_Destroyer_HMS_Dragon_MOD_4.jpg[/img][/url]

Thanks for the pics Anthony.

In late October 2015, during a visit to Portsmouth, I had a chance to see the ships in person: there were 4 of them in Portsmouth at that time! Even though I am a pre-1945 ship modeler, seeing them "live" led me to decide and build one, so I went and bought a Trumpeter 1/350 kit... All I can say is that, as previously stated, the Airfix kit has its issues, so does the Trumpeter one. Much easier to build of course, but with several inaccuracies and overscale features on the hull in particular. I therefore decided to post several of the pictures I took during my visit in the hope that certain details may prove useful to fellow modelers.

[attachment=5]MW type 45 Portsmouth 2015-11-1-500.jpg[/attachment]

[attachment=4]MW type 45 Portsmouth 2015-11-2-600.jpg[/attachment]

[attachment=3]MW type 45 Portsmouth 2015-11-3-900.jpg[/attachment]

[attachment=2]MW type 45 Portsmouth 2015-11-5-900.jpg[/attachment]

[attachment=1]MW type 45 Portsmouth 2015-11-7-900.jpg[/attachment]

[attachment=0]MW type 45 Portsmouth 2015-11-9-900.jpg[/attachment]

Here's another possible diorama subject for all of you across the pond: HMS [i]Dragon[/i] escorting the Russian carrier Admiral [i]Kuznetsov[/i], as mentioned in our forum's [url=http://www.shipmodels.info/mws_forum/viewtopic.php?f=46&t=34697&p=625731#p625731]Kuznetsov fans thread[/url].

photo below courtesy of Canada's [i]National Post[/i]:
[img]http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z181/MSantor/HMSDragonandRussiancarrier.jpg[/img]

I haven't looked for differences between the individual ships but the one thing I have noticed is that Daring and Dauntless have a slight gap near the top of their mast, the others don't seem to have it.

http://www.royalnavy.mod.uk/The-Fleet/Ships/Destroyers/Type-45-Destroyers

According to the Trumpeter box, Their kit will be "HMS Type 45 Class".

This seems somewhat generic, & I was wondering if the all ships in the class were that identical, that a single kit could represent them all?

[quote="Landlocked"]The Airfix instructions say that Tomahawk can also be carried when required. Any ideas where they would be shipped, and in what form? Is that a VLS item or armoured box launchers or what?
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Provision was made in the overall design for this type of weapon system in terms of space, wiring routes, power supply capacity, stability calculations and similar but no specific physical work will have been done as such to make the ship ready for an installation or to integrate the weapon into the overall command system. Such an installation would need quite a bit of further design work and also a considerable work package to actually install, followed by proving trials before it could be operational.

Good morning
Having discovered 1:350 scale i can say i am well and trully hooked :0)
I took delivery of my Type 45 and was a little disapointed with the kit due to a lot of damage that parts have recived while in the box by this i mean that some of the panels are bent or twisted this was caused by the deck peice pushing in too it while in the sealed bag also due to some of the odd shaped sprues pushing on to some of the smaller parts which resulted in the barrel for the 4.5" being bent and snapped so in my limited opinion the packaging if a tad snug for the parts :0(
However the kit layout is good with very little over mould (think thats what its called) i have also dived in too the world of PE with a white ensign kit so will see how this goes befor taking on my yamato
My laptop is down so using my phone so will see if i can upload any piccys
Thanks
Ray

According to Warhip World "Selected" Type 45's may be fitted with Harpoon in 2013. Given that they can be fitted as and when required this will happen. As for Tomahawk this has been mentioned as something for the future. I suspect seeing the Navy will have to get past the Treasury this will take a long time!. I did read that there was some space for a possible vertical launch tomahawk but this cannot be done using the existing Aster launcher.

The Airfix instructions say that Tomahawk can also be carried when required. Any ideas where they would be shipped, and in what form? Is that a VLS item or armoured box launchers or what?

cheers, Al

[quote="GTDEATH13"]Speakign of decoys, where and how many seagnat launchers are installed on a type 45?[/quote]

As far as I can se there are four Sea Gnat launchers installed,just forward and aft of the 30mm guns ,on the midship main deck,as per this photo.

[img]http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj217/philreeder/Daring/SAM_0797.jpg[/img]

Cheers Phil

Speakign of decoys, where and how many seagnat launchers are installed on a type 45?

Thanks, that's the article I read. Found it surfing at work then lost it :)

[quote="indigodave"]Has anyone else seen the pictures of the large tube cannisters mounted behind the AA missile deck and ahead of the Harpoon mounts? Discovered the other day they are launchers for large decoys that confuse incoming missiles[/quote]

Here is some more information and photos regarding the IDS300 SHIP DEPLOYED FLOATING NAVAL COUNTERMEASURE:
http://www.airborne-sys.com/files/brochures/decoy_spec_sheet_06092010_a4.pdf
http://bdec-online.com/bd-cat36/c360084.pdf

Has anyone else seen the pictures of the large tube cannisters mounted behind the AA missile deck and ahead of the Harpoon mounts? Discovered the other day they are launchers for large decoys that confuse incoming missiles

I am very curious about the fit of the hull halves with the keel and how much sanding will it take.

I also suppose that the pyramid mast will be a pita to assemble. Looks like a call of putty to me... :heh: :heh: