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Re: 1/72 Casablanca class escort carrier

by ADM » Wed Mar 19, 2014 8:17 am

Hi thomas, this plan is for the Halford (and not Hanford) with the catapult, not really interesting for me who seek operational ship :

"The Halford was one of 5 Fletcher-class destroyers which were modified to have a cruiser catapult installed on the aftersuperstructure replacing the #3 5-inch gun. This was an experiment to provide aircover for convoy support. The experiment was not successful, and the catapult was removed and the ships were returned to Fletcher-class standard."

http://www.navsource.org/archives/05/480.htm

By the way there's plenty of plan for Fletcher class destroyer (1/96 and so on) but having a real 1/72 plan is time saving, you don't need to re-calculate everything, and for DrPR I prefer to work with the entire model in one paper although I understand your way of work.

Anyway, I'm sure I will solve this problem when the time to build will come, maybe some sellers will accept to convert one of their plan into 1/72.

Re: 1/72 Casablanca class escort carrier

by DrPR » Wed Mar 19, 2014 2:11 am

I'm sure you can order the DVD from them to ship overseas. Contact them to make arrangements.

For printing here in the US we can take the files to a Kinkos or other chain print shop. They have wide-bed plotters, and if you find someone who knows what he is doing, they can print the drawings full size (3 feet wide). Just about any engineering print shop can also plot the files.

You really don't need scale drawings for most things. The blueprints are dimensioned and you can calculate the scale dimensions. Working from the DVD images in a photo editing program you can copy just a part of a drawing and print that at scale.

When I started my USS Oklahoma City CLG-5 model I was plotting many of the blueprints, and soon had a big pile of paper. But I realized it was much easier just to work from the computer screen. I haven't made a paper print in years.

Phil

Re: 1/72 Casablanca class escort carrier

by thomastmcc » Tue Mar 18, 2014 1:21 pm

hi adm found a 1/144 plan in the meantime that might help .

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2007-Plans-US ... 5afd393dfc

also contacted profile morskie who make plans and books to see if he can do a fletcher class in 1/72

thomas

Re: 1/72 Casablanca class escort carrier

by thomastmcc » Tue Mar 18, 2014 1:09 pm

DrPR wrote:The blueprints for the Fletcher class can be purchased for $30US here:

http://destroyerhistory.org/destroyers/store/

I have these and the scans are excellent. These are the Bath Iron Works plans for building the ships and there is just about everything you need for a model (and a lot more). You can print in any scale you want.

Phil

good idea but for international buyers how check hmmm ..

thomas

Re: 1/72 Casablanca class escort carrier

by ADM » Tue Mar 18, 2014 7:02 am

Thank you for your valuable information DrPR, the problem is the printer, I think nearly nobody can print a plan of such size because the printer need to be huge and cost a lot of money, this is why we're seaching 1/72 printed plans, but having this DVD will sure bring some great views, I already collected a lot of photos.

Re: 1/72 Casablanca class escort carrier

by DrPR » Tue Mar 18, 2014 1:47 am

The blueprints for the Fletcher class can be purchased for $30US here:

http://destroyerhistory.org/destroyers/store/

I have these and the scans are excellent. These are the Bath Iron Works plans for building the ships and there is just about everything you need for a model (and a lot more). You can print in any scale you want.

Phil

Re: 1/72 Casablanca class escort carrier

by gtbred » Mon Mar 17, 2014 2:57 pm

beauitful work of art. :thumbs_up_1: :thumbs_up_1: :thumbs_up_1: :thumbs_up_1:

Re: 1/72 Casablanca class escort carrier

by ADM » Mon Mar 17, 2014 2:29 pm

Perfect, me too I will let you know if I find something :wave_1: , for those who are curious about how I paint my figures they can see it here (just starting with 400 figures (1/72 US marines and Japanese infantry) :

http://airfixtributeforum.myfastforum.o ... &start=600

Re: 1/72 Casablanca class escort carrier

by thomastmcc » Mon Mar 17, 2014 12:11 pm

cool thanks ADM if i find a 1/72 fletcher plan i will let you know ..

thomas

Re: 1/72 Casablanca class escort carrier

by ADM » Mon Mar 17, 2014 10:05 am

Hi Thomas,
many thanks for your appreciation, in this photo there's 3 airfix Buffalo Amphibian (item ref : 02302) and one Dragon armor LVT-(A)V 1 (item ref : 60500).
I haven't found yet a 1/72 plan for Fletcher class destroyer, still searching, but some 1/72 fitting for the Fletcher class can be found here :

http://www.scalewarship.com/store/index ... path=83_77

I will open another thread for my new work because this one is finished, right now I have plenty of 1/72 figures to paint but this message board is not about figures so I will come back after.

Re: 1/72 Casablanca class escort carrier

by thomastmcc » Sat Mar 15, 2014 1:05 pm

excellent work mate what make is your LVTs ?..

also you got a 1/72 scale plan of fletcher class destroyers ? ..looking for one myself..

thomas

Re: 1/72 Casablanca class escort carrier

by ADM » Thu Feb 27, 2014 8:31 am

Thanks mate, I've plenty of others ship planned, including 2 fletcher class destroyers but not immediately (I'm still gathering plans, photos and fitting), I have also to work on my Marines Corps for my expanding landing force, not to mention japanese land defenses and so on. The complete wargame will also include islands and of course I need time. Still I've already started playing some battle with my aircraft carrier against nazi submarines or japanese attacking planes. It's too early to take pictures of that, it will look even better with more stuff. :submarine:
Haratio I greatly appreciate your work and will keep watching your photos.


I need to paint much more figures, vehicules and so on for my landing force. :wave_1:

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Re: 1/72 Casablanca class escort carrier

by Haratio Fales » Wed Feb 26, 2014 10:53 am

Standing Ovation, You are the King of Styrene. I can't wait to get back on to building my Light Cruiser. I'm patiently waiting for My 3D printers to get here, and in the mean time learning the 3D graphics to use them. I am also writing a book about the Z plan ships. Your Carrier is amazing stuff though and proof that perseverance in small amounts can yield great results. I'm looking forward to what your next project might be, maybe a fletcher in the same scale, water line to escort the Cas.

Smooth Sailing as always. Haratio.

Re: 1/72 Casablanca class escort carrier

by Skybert » Wed Feb 26, 2014 8:39 am

ADM, Any pics of your warmgaming in this scale with fleets in 1/72: how does that look/work ? I have no idea?

Re: 1/72 Casablanca class escort carrier

by ADM » Mon Feb 24, 2014 7:49 am

Thank you Skybert, I'm sure your Rapana class will look bright, painting eyes on my figures give them more life and they can express some different feeling in their face, it's just for more fun, it's important to have figures who suit your taste and wishes when you play wargame, it give you much more pleasure. yes, their eyes look big on photos where they're 2 time to 10 time their real size, but when you have such figure in front of you for real (22 millimeters or 0,86 inch height), it look right, you don't need a microscope to see details :nod_2: I'm also accustomed with base on figure, I don't notice it anymore and I wouldn't fix them on my aircraft carrier because moving planes and crew is also a source of pleasure, you never get bored by your model. I have already 50 Navy planes and can build more and change the configuration of the flightdeck if I want. :wave_1:
record time was a necessity for wargame, I can't spend 10 years just to build 2 or 3 warship, otherwise I can't play battle with them. It's a different approach compared to those building for Radio control or just display.

Re: 1/72 Casablanca class escort carrier

by Skybert » Sun Feb 23, 2014 7:33 pm

ADM

What a project you have finished here, in a record time. This thread is rich source of CVE info, that should become pinned. I for one will be tapping into this goldmine for as long as i takes to finish my Rapana class.

I understand you will use the ship in board based wargaming rather than a diorama which makes the plates under the figurines more logical, though less lifelike. I have tangled with magnetized iron powders in paints to solve that, but was much to cumbersome.

Also i have to get used to the manga style painting of eyes, as normally in 1/72, even at the distances we take pics, in scale eyes of humans are normally not seen. Does that maybe serve a boardgame purpose?

In any case i tip my hat to your achievements here, and thanks for sharing.

Cheers Bert

Re: 1/72 Casablanca class escort carrier

by domi13 » Sat Feb 22, 2014 2:27 pm

Fliger747 wrote:What's the biplane aboard?

T
It might be a Grumman Duck.

domi13

Re: 1/72 Casablanca class escort carrier

by Fliger747 » Sat Feb 22, 2014 1:53 pm

What's the biplane aboard?

T

Re: 1/72 Casablanca class escort carrier

by ADM » Sat Feb 22, 2014 1:28 pm

Before somebody else ask me about planes on my flightdeck, a sample of what can be found on the flightdeck of an escort carrier


CVE-61 with a load of B-25 and A-26
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CVE-63 (Dauntlesses)
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CVE-70 with A-20, P-38 and P-47
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CVE-72 with Hellcats
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CVE-74 with mostly Catalina and probably some C47
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CVE-76
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CVE-81
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CVE-87 with Corsairs
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CVE-90 with Catalina
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CVE-98 with F4U Corsairs and F6F Hellcats
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You can find plenty more here :

http://www.navsource.org/archives/03idx.htm

You have much more choice with a CVE than an Essex class when it come about planes (on the flightdeck) because CVE were also used as Cargo to ship planes on remote pacific battlefield, and also when planes like Dauntless were not used anymore on a Essex Class, in the meantime still serving aboard CVE.

Re: 1/72 Casablanca class escort carrier

by ADM » Fri Feb 21, 2014 8:29 am

Hi, ren� and thank you for giving your opinion, you don't have all the informations about CVE air wings and I'm glad to complete your knowledge, you can really mix any planes on a CVE, The USS Santee for example, during "Torch" operation on October 25, 1942 (part of Task Group 34.2) was loaded with VGF-29 (12 Wildcat, 9 TBM Avengers and 9 SBD Dauntless). Dauntless were frenquetly used with Avengers aboards many CVE.

The Helldiver was supposed to replace the Dauntless but the Dauntless remained in operation until the end of the war, mostly land based or aboard CVE.
The USS Kasaan Bay (CVE-69) was loaded in 1943 with composite squadron 69 (FM2 and Avenger), in 1944 with Fighting squadron 74 (F6F-5 Hellcat) and composite squadron 72 (FM2 and Avengers) in 1945. So you see, air wings were often moved from one carrier to another, like this one :

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carrier_Air_Wing_Seventeen

Carrier Air Group Seventeen (CVG-17) was established as CVG-82 on 1 April 1944 during World War II and was assigned to the aircraft carrier USS Bennington (CV-20). CVG-82 consisted of Fighting Squadron 82, flying the Grumman F6F Hellcat, Bombing Squadron 82 (Curtiss SB2C Helldiver), Torpedo Squadron 82 (Grumman TBM Avenger) and the two USMC fighter squadrons VMF-112 and VMF-123 (Vought F4U Corsair). After training on the U.S. East Coast, Bennington reached the U.S. 5th Fleet on 7 February 1945. Nine days later. CVG-82 attacked targets in the Tokyo area, mainly the airfields at Nachijo Jima, Nanpo Shoto, Mikatagahara, and Hamamatsu. From 20 to 22 February, the wing supported the landings on Iwo Jima. This was followed by attacks on targets in the Japanese Inland Sea and on Okinawa in March. On 7 April, aircraft from CVG-82 participated in the sinking of the batleship Yamato. The Air Group then supported U.S. troops on Okinawa until June. On 17 June 1945, CVG-82 was replaced aboard Bennington by CVG-1, and was transported to the US aboard USS White Plains (CVE-66). During its deployment, CVG-82 was credited with the destruction of 167 Japanese aircraft in the air and 220 on the ground. However, CVG-82 lost 40 pilots and 13 crewmembers, 25% of its regular strength.[4]


CVE 56 USS Liscome Bay loaded with Dauntlesses, TBF Avengers and F4F Wildcat

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And when it's about conveying plane you can add seaplane, army planes, heavy bombers and anything you want, see all the photos on Navsource website, you will be surprised.

Yes, I've really done my CVE in 20 month, it was a really hard work, thank you for your appreciation.

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