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For those not interested in going in to glue making, I just received that box of the "Longo" Mucilage from the Canadian source.

I'm holding out a few bottles for myself and a few more for those who have already expressed an interest. I'll post the remainder on the forum trading post for what I have in to these, about $3.25 USD (money order) and your postage per bottle....if interested contact me there or by p/m.

edit: I noticed that this stuff is now imported by a company called "Longo" into Canada, rather than the old "LePage" branding. FWIW.

I found a recipe for a paper glue with 25 g gum arabic, 100 ml of water as solvent and 3 ml of glycerine to make the glue more elastic. Also added is a pinch of ascorbic acid as preservative.

I remember a confectioned glue like this from my childhood in Germany and that was pretty sticky. On the top of the bottle it would dry to a clear, somewhat brittle layer. I thought it had long disappeared from the market, but just discovered that it is still available:



I gather one could vary the ratio between gum arabic and water to make it suitable for different applications.

Hello - you can try that, but when I first started on this "quest" I bought some gum arabic at an artists shop, hoping it would work as a substitute, but it was not very sticky, and did not work as a glue. Maybe it can be doctored with other substances; that's outside my skill set.

I did a bit of research on 'mucilage', not as a product name, but as a class of substances. It appears to me that it is essentially a solution of arab gum. This has been/still is used extensively to produce the sticky backs of stamps (the ones you have to lick), the sticky strips on envelopes, and as a binder for (artists) paints (e.g. in water colours). On this basis, it should be easily obtainable in every country. Check out artists' shops.

wefalck

PM sent to f14tomcat.

If I still have bottles left when they arrive, I'll put them up in the trading post so this thread isn't loaded up.

Pagodaphile wrote:

Pagodaphile wrote:Actually I did try that address. I'll try that phone number Monday, thanks Bill.

I just received a call from "Daisy" today and have a box of the stuff (should last me a couple lifetimes) enroute from them. The shipping went up a few bucks but not too bad. If someone has an uncontrollable urge to try a bottle of this stuff, let me know, I will probably have a few bottles I'd be willing to part with. Thanks again Bill for the info.

I spoke to Mr. Griffith at Scale Model World (UK) last year and he recommended this particular type of glue for rigging. I live on the other side of the world (Singapore) and I'm not particular about postage rates. I just need to get my paws on this glue. I'm interested in your offer. Perhaps two bottles to last me two lifetimes. My email: bdfpitw@singnet.com.sg

Matthew

Huh ????

Is there another use for this stuff that I haven't heard of ? Maybe I need to reconsider my offer to let a few bottles go before I can experiment..

LMAO... Dude.. DEA is going to be all over you like white on rice on a paper plate in a snow storm.

Pagodaphile wrote:Actually I did try that address. I'll try that phone number Monday, thanks Bill.

I just received a call from "Daisy" today and have a box of the stuff (should last me a couple lifetimes) enroute from them. The shipping went up a few bucks but not too bad. If someone has an uncontrollable urge to try a bottle of this stuff, let me know, I will probably have a few bottles I'd be willing to part with. Thanks again Bill for the info.

Elmer's just released a "green" glue that seems to share a lot in origin with mucilage glue. Is it similar?

Actually I did try that address. I'll try that phone number Monday, thanks Bill.

edible ship models? Could be a trend.

MAKE YOUR OWN???
http://www.instructables.com/id/Make-yo ... -mucilage/
Use at own risk! lol. maybe worth a try.
"This is reportedly the recipe used by the US government for their stamps before the First World War."
If that's true, stamps still work and are still affixed 100 years later. lol

http://www.instructables.com/id/Make-yo ... -mucilage/

did you try submitting an inquiry here, where you type in the answer to a spam-catcher question? I believe that's required.
http://avronjudaic.com/contactUs.php

here are phone numbers; not sure if they�ll help:
1-800-997-9752 or (905) 761-9752

Don�t forget - this art supply store in Toronto also sells it. They have a minimum order requirement, but if a group of people did it you could split the order. I was tempted to buy a large quantity and then go into business reselling them to modellers, maybe some entrepreneur out there could do that?
http://www.wyndhamartsupplies.com/isapi ... arch_type=

contraband mucilage. lol

I tried that alternate e-mail address but still haven't received a reply.

Chris.....You aren't near Toronto are you ? I think we need to send someone on a search and rescue mission. I can meet you at the border wearing a trenchcoat

The glue works fine; it's not old stock. It's funny you post this question - I haven't used the glue yet for rigging, but I did use it yesterday to glue a very problematic area, and the results were excellent.

The problem: while working on my Frank Knox, part of the deck pulled up from where it had been glued to some little crossbeams inside the hull, that apparently are there as gluing points. I needed to re-glue the deck, but there was only a very narrow gap between the deck and the top of the hull to give me access to where the glue had to be applied. I think there is a hypodermic needle-type glue applicator for such situations, but I don't have one. I knew that if I tried to daub glue inside there I ran the risk of accidentally getting styrene glue or CA on the outside of the hull or on the deck, ruining the model. The only other option was to pull up the whole deck, and risk ruining it that way, if any of the other glued points stuck too much.

I decided to test the mucilage. I was able to swab a large amount inside the gap, using a brush, and then simply use a brush and water to wash off the excess glue on the deck and hull. The mucilage takes a while to dry but the joint feels very solid now, and the excess mucilage washed off without leaving any residue at all, sparing the camouflage paint job that I just spent a week on.

I'm thinking of using mucilage again to glue other delicate plastic or PE parts, where excess glue can be a problem. The joints seem strong enough for modeling purposes, and the fact that the excess can be completely removed with water means this may be the easiest way I've found to make invisible glue joints.

What's the verdict? Does it work well?

I think it might be new stock. The bottle says its imported into Canada from a manufacturer in Taiwan. I located Chinese wholesale sources where you have to buy palettes of the stuff, so maybe it's from that source. They also seem to sell it in India.

I haven't opened a bottle yet but when I turn it upside down a few big slow bubbles drift up to the base, like it's a bottle of honey. Looks nice and thick and sticky.

BillThePill123 wrote:Pagodaphile, I can't find the page where it says there is a $30 minimum, but what I did was go to this page:

http://avronjudaic.com/create_account.php

Actually it was on the above link you provided, just click on "shipping Info". Maybe Daisy liked you and had mercy on you when it was time to apply that whopping shipping bill. From what you say this sounds like it is an old legacy stock. A feeding frenzy will probably wipe out the remainder in short order. Hopefully the stuff has a veeery long shelf life.

Kudos on the quick pick up on this item.