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Re: USS Zumwalt DDG 1000, WL Build

by D-Boy » Tue Sep 16, 2014 1:11 pm

Puttied, sanded, and sub assemblies built. First primer coat went on last night. Will post pictures in the next day or two.

I've also misplaced the lower hull of this kit... and I don't even have shag carpet in my work area. Was going to prime and paint that, too, as it looks like the model will mate to the lower hull piece without glue, and I can display full hull or waterline.

No real problems to report with assembly. Been thinking about the PE the kit needs for replacement/upgrade purposes, and will post those thoughts in my review of this kit, in the Review section of this forum.

Re: USS Zumwalt DDG 1000, WL Build

by D-Boy » Wed Aug 06, 2014 8:39 pm

sirpaul wrote:Looks like a pretty easy build looking at the instructions. I'll be following your build. How does the ship measure out?
Sir Paul:

Model hull measures 10 1/8" long at waterline and 9 1/2" long at deck level.

Model hull measures 1 5/16 wide at waterline and 1 1/4 at deck level.

There are discrepancies online as to actual 1:1 hull length - not sure if one is right, one is wrong, or whether they reflect waterline vs. deck measurement.

600 feet = 7200 inches = 10.29 inches in 1:700 scale
610 feet = 7320 inches = 10.46 inches in 1:700 scale
80.7 feet = 968.4 inches = 1.38 inches in 1:700 scale

Re: USS Zumwalt DDG 1000, WL Build

by sirpaul » Wed Aug 06, 2014 8:07 pm

I just got mine D-Boy. Nice little kit. Represents the ship well in my opinion. Looking forward to see yours built.

Re: USS Zumwalt DDG 1000, WL Build

by Rui Matos » Wed Aug 06, 2014 9:21 am

Looking forward for this build :)

Cheers
Rui

Re: USS Zumwalt DDG 1000, WL Build

by D-Boy » Tue Aug 05, 2014 8:52 am

Goodwood wrote::whistle: :dead:

True and granted. It's just that I saw the kit at my LHS a few days ago and it was almost fifty dollars (close to a dollar a part). If it was only thirty I wouldn't have been so flippant...
That price is above retail! And I can understand your complaint!

I ordered overseas at 20% discount, added to a shipment that was already coming my way, so not so harsh.

Re: USS Zumwalt DDG 1000, WL Build

by Goodwood » Mon Aug 04, 2014 9:53 pm

:whistle: :dead:

True and granted. It's just that I saw the kit at my LHS a few days ago and it was almost fifty dollars (close to a dollar a part). If it was only thirty I wouldn't have been so flippant...

Re: USS Zumwalt DDG 1000, WL Build

by D-Boy » Mon Aug 04, 2014 9:39 pm

Goodwood wrote: And I honestly have to say that anyone who actually bought this kit is a sucker. "First to market" is not necessarily a good strategy in the modeling world.
Ah, but thank goodness this sucker bought the kit, took the time to review it, started this build thread and is laying the kit bare for all to see. I'd welcome a more accurate, more detailed, and better designed kit down the road, but for the moment I am content assembling these 55 pieces of plastic. I've glimpsed this ship under construction at Bath Iron Works for the past two years, and I'm intrigued with the test bed it represents. As such, I bought the kit because of a certain connection to the ship. And it will look nice on the shelf with some other stealth ships in my collection. WHIFF in a box - I'm fine with that for the moment.

As noted above and in the review thread, the best longer-term solution to this Dragon kit is a PE superstructure that would fit/fold over the base shape of the Dragon kit (with "details" sanded off). I suspect brass etching is the only way to get to a realistic tile detail anyway. Wait a year, assess the sensors, vents and other superstructure details, and release a PE set. The Dragon kit will provide a great plastic base for such corrections and updates.

Re: USS Zumwalt DDG 1000, WL Build

by biggles2 » Mon Aug 04, 2014 6:00 pm

Timmy C wrote:What, and have a 10-part kit be reduced to 5? :heh:
:lol_3: :lol_4: :lol_pound: :thumbs_up_1:

Re: USS Zumwalt DDG 1000, WL Build

by Goodwood » Mon Aug 04, 2014 1:56 pm

Timmy C wrote:What, and have a 10-part kit be reduced to 5? :heh:
I don't know how many times I've said something similar to myself. Seriously. And I honestly have to say that anyone who actually bought this kit is a sucker. "First to market" is not necessarily a good strategy in the modeling world.

Re: USS Zumwalt DDG 1000, WL Build

by Timmy C » Mon Aug 04, 2014 12:50 pm

What, and have a 10-part kit be reduced to 5? :heh:

Re: USS Zumwalt DDG 1000, WL Build

by biggles2 » Mon Aug 04, 2014 9:55 am

What happened to Dragon's much vaunted slide-mold technology? The poor fits where the tiled sections meet could have been avoided with a single piece slide-molded part. The gaps and such are not major, but occur right on surface detail areas and become a nuisance correcting. Looks like Dragon made a rush job on this production to beat the competition and ended up with a substandard (for Dragon) kit, problems which other Black Label series kits also share. :wave_1:

Re: USS Zumwalt DDG 1000, WL Build

by D-Boy » Sun Aug 03, 2014 4:18 pm

sirpaul wrote:Looks like a pretty easy build looking at the instructions. I'll be following your build. How does the ship measure out?
Always good to have SirPaul looking over one's shoulder. Having been meaning to assess measurements, and will do so this evening and post back.

Re: USS Zumwalt DDG 1000, WL Build

by sirpaul » Sun Aug 03, 2014 3:33 pm

Looks like a pretty easy build looking at the instructions. I'll be following your build. How does the ship measure out?

Re: USS Zumwalt DDG 1000, WL Build

by maxim » Sat Aug 02, 2014 10:42 am

Interesting! I will probably start my model, when the real ship is in commission.

Re: USS Zumwalt DDG 1000, WL Build

by D-Boy » Fri Aug 01, 2014 11:36 am

You can see in the last picture above, and this next picture as well, the concern about over-scale anechoic tiles on the superstructure and hull. I've taken an initial swipe with a sanding stick, but intend to come back again and remove more of the profile. Cleaning this area of dust and debris from the sanding will be important before painting:

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Seams on the stern and decks align nicely and require very little sanding to bring to absolute level:

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Bilge keels have ejector pin marks that due to part design, face the outer hull of the build. They will need careful clean-up as these parts are thinly cast. The keels are thinner than their mounting locations, so align to hull exterior and address with a liquid putty product:

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Rudders are designed specific to each side of the hull, and locator holes are designed to assure accurate assembly:

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Propeller shafts were fractionally long and needed to be trimmed to assure straight shafts during installation. Dry fitting of the lower hull and waterline portion of the kits suggests a straightforward mating of the two assemblies.

USS Zumwalt DDG 1000, WL Build

by D-Boy » Mon Jul 28, 2014 7:26 pm

This kit is just arriving on US shores in late July, 2014, and is the first-ever kit of a next generation destroyer design and test bed for new naval technologies, from power plant to armament, for the US Navy. In seasonal visits to Maine, I've has the fortune of seeing this intriguing design under construction at Bath Iron Works, and I've been eager to have a go at the kit. It arrived today from Hobby Link Japan, but Freetime Hobbies also now has the kit in stock in the US.

I've posted an initial review of the kit (and Maxim has also added comments): viewtopic.php?f=53&t=157039, but wanted to make some observations during kit assembly.

9 parts assembly for the superstructure and hull above waterline, and this is where my build started. The hull consists of left and right halves, with one positive locator point at the bow. Internal bracing meets, but does not positively connect, over the length of the hull. All internal bracing is above the waterline seam with the lower hull. After gluing A1 and A4 at the bow, I dry-fit A3 and let the bow seam harden.

I then glued A3 to the hull sides from underneath. A3 fits very tightly, with only a slight gap at tip of the bow, easily corrected with just a dab of putty.

Internal bracing aligned nicely under/along this bow section, but these braces meet at butt ends, and could have been designed to have positive/negative features for alignment for more surety at these points:

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I then installed the stern piece, B5, to A1/A4 hull sides. I then quickly dry-fit stern deck A2 to assure proper alignment. Fixing A2 to the hulls sides and stern means leaving a very small gap in the back of the hanger bay, preferable to the gap at the stern/hull alignment. A2 should be fit tight to stern, not to rear of hanger.

Closing the hanger requires mating B10 with B1 before any further superstructure assembly. You will not have a second chance at this!

I proceeded by assembling B1 with A1/A4, and alignment of all parts to this stage was most impressive - no gaps or maladjusted joints. B8, the top of the superstructure, will eventually cover all joints at the top of the superstructure, but install B2, the bridge and front of the superstructure, first.

B2's mating with the superstructure sides of A1/A4 left me with the only worrisome seams of the build so far. Trim sprue gates on B2 very carefully - on at least one side of the part, the sprue gate intrudes on detail. My part B2 fit adequately on the starboard side of the build, with a but more gap on the port side. I'll take some shots of that and post. Some corrective action and mating of parts can be taken while cement is curing by pushing out the superstructure side from underneath the hull:

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At this point in assembly, hull above waterline complete, I noticed that there are vertical dimples in the hull exterior at locations where the hull braces are located in the interior. These will be noticeable under paint, and will require addressing with putty or something similar, then sanded. Not a big deal, but an extra step I did not initially notice the need for:

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At this stage of the build, the waterline model appears to fit nicely on the full hull part, and it may be possible to convert to/from a WL/full hull build if you wish. I'll keep an eye on that as the build progresses, but will now build the lower hull on stand to test.

I'll post some pictures a bit later, but this build is going smoothly so far, in its first evening.

- D-Boy

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