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Re: Beginner looking for some advice!

by Daniele » Tue Mar 10, 2015 1:40 pm

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Re: Beginner looking for some advice!

by jon13700 » Tue Mar 10, 2015 11:54 am

Thank you all so much for the advice! I decided to go with Iwata for my first brush. As for a compressor, I will definitely get one with a tank and moisture trap. A trip to the local Home Depot, Lowe's and Tractor supply are in order in the next few days. I do have one more question; I am very fond of the Testors model paints. What steps should I take to be sure they are airbrush compatible? I am a total airbrush noob so forgive my more than likely stupid questions!

My first use for it will be the 1:429 Arizona by Revell. Not the best kit I've ever seen but it is the first model I can remember building with my father and I plan to do the best job I can on it and give it to him in a glass case with a plaque for Father's Day this year! I've never worked with photo etch before so is the $13 or so etch for this kit enough of an improvement to warrant my first try?

Thanks again guys!! :thumbs_up_1:

Re: Beginner looking for some advice!

by blw » Mon Mar 09, 2015 11:00 am

marijn van gils wrote:one tip for airbrushing: the most common beginner mistake is to under-thin the paint and use very high pressure, so do the opposite: thin very much and use low pressure.
This is incredibly true. After reading for thirty years "how" to do airbrushing, I saw a guy from Vallejo doing what looked like impossible things with an airbrush at a show. Right in front of me. I asked a lot of questions and learned a lot.

I've switched from 20-25 psi to 11-12psi and somewhat less distance from nozzle to model, and it's amazing how much better control there is. (I'm using my wife's 29-year-old Iwata, by the way.)

I also found that the lower pressure and shorter spray distance reduced paint consumption by a stunning amount, which is no surprise when one considers just how much overspray the traditional techniques create. I'd guess that somewhere between a third and a half of the paint I used to use ended up somewhere other than on the model!

I will likely get a new airbrush sometime as parts for our old one are getting hard to find. We both like the Iwata enough that I'm sure we'll get another Iwata. However, in the past I've used Badger and Paasche airbrushes - in fact, I still own and use a Paasche H, which I can also recommend. It's a single-action brush, which I preferred in the high-pressure days, since I couldn't really control the paint very well. Now with the much lower air pressure, a dual-action brush seems much, much handier. I mostly use the Paasche for relatively large areas such as 1/350 hulls and model railroading stuff that's 1/87. The Badgers are OK; they're all single-action as far as I know. Some of the Badgers are not too expensive, either.

Re: Beginner looking for some advice!

by biggles2 » Mon Mar 09, 2015 10:42 am

Don't buy Aztek airbrushes. They're over-priced and unreliable! :wave_1:

Re: Beginner looking for some advice!

by aaube » Mon Mar 09, 2015 10:39 am

Hi Jon,

I'm with Dave and Marijn on this. It wont be possible to get both for that price range and, have a plesant experience.
Airbrush wise, i believe the Evolution to be a good choice as would be the Iwata HP-CS but these will be over the 100$ mark.
There's several other brushes from various makers that would probably fit the bill (aka, descent general purpose airbrushes),
but a the end of the day, they'll all fall within the same price range. I'm afraid there's no escape there.

As for the air feed, a small hardware store compressor could do the job. Imho, having a moisture trap attached to it is a must tho.

HTH!

Alain

Re: Beginner looking for some advice!

by marijn van gils » Mon Mar 09, 2015 8:33 am

I agree: an airbrush is something you don't want to skimp on too much. No need to buy the most expensive, but under 100$ won't get you an airbrush which will get you the results you seek.

I haven't used the Evolution (I'm using an Iwata), but many people in my modelling club do and are very happy with it. They usually do advice it for airbrush-beginners indeed.

With compressors, you can get away with cheap solutions (CO� tank, harware store compressors, etc.), but IME pleasure of use and results do increase when you get the better and airbrush-adapted stuff (moisture trap). I bought myself a silent compressor, which was expensive but I can use in the living room while my wife is watching TV. But contrary to the airbrush itself, using something cheap as a compressor first, then upgrading does make sense. But don't use those small rattle-can-like cannisters! They don't last long enough and turn out to be really expensive.

And one tip for airbrushing: the most common beginner mistake is to under-thin the paint and use very high pressure, so do the opposite: thin very much and use low pressure.

Good luck!

Marijn

Re: Beginner looking for some advice!

by davidwaples » Sun Mar 08, 2015 11:54 pm

Hi Jon,
Staying under $100 for a good airbrush and compressor is not going to happen at the retail level. I would recommend a Harder & Steenbeck Evolution CR Plus two in one airbrush. That will give you a .2mm and .4mm needle allowing you to do some fine work and large areas too. It's double your budget but you will find this airbrush extremely well designed and durable. It's very easy to clean too. Plus parts are interchangeable with their Evolution and Infinity models.

I've owned Iwata brushes which are also over your budget, but they are a little more fragile and not as versatile and easy to keep clean. There is no doubt in my mind that you will be much happier if you save a little longer and go with the Harder & Steenbeck. Chicago Airbrush is a good place to buy them at reasonable prices.

There are lots of choices for compressors. I would recommend something with a tank. Take a look at Co2 options as well.

Good luck!
Dave

Beginner looking for some advice!

by jon13700 » Sun Mar 08, 2015 3:08 pm

Hello all! My name is Jon and I've been a lurker for a while and used to build models with my father as a kid. I've recently starting building again and cannot believe I ever stopped! I even have a stash of models building in my closet. I'm getting ready to start building bigger ships 1/350 and a 1:144 U Boat and I think it's time to graduate from old fashioned paint brushes and get an airbrush. I've been researching but really cannot seem to find the answers I need. I really want a brush that is good for base coats and hull/large area painting with some ability for fine lines and weathering. I like the idea of gravity fed more than siphon so far but honestly I have no idea why. I'm looking to stay under $100 for the brush and compressor but I know that I may have to go over.

Any and all help/suggestions will be appreciated!

Jon

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