With the increase in interest of modelling WW1 ships, here is an out of box review for the HP Models 1/700 H.M.S. Mary Rose 1916.
HMS Murray
There is good information available on the Miranda and Moon or M-Class destroyers of which HMS Mary Rose and HMS Murray are members. These were the standard British destroyers of WW1 most being built to a Standard Admiralty design with specials from Hawthorne, Thornycroft and Yarrow.
On the Web:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Admiralty_ ... _destroyer
http://www.battleships-cruisers.co.uk/moon_class.htm
Reference Texts:
1. British Destroyers From Earliest Days by Norman Freeman is the best reference with a great drawing of HMS Matchless by A. D. Baker III
2. British Destroyers by Edgar J. March gives many clear photos and copies of numerous Admiralty Sketch Design drawings. The Profile, Upper & Forcastle Decks drawing of HMS Mandate is very good
3. Warships Illustrated No. 7 British Destroyers in World War One by RA Burt
The M class, more properly known as the Admiralty M class, were a class of 85 destroyers built for the Royal Navy that saw service during World War I. All ships were built to an identical �Admiralty� design, hence the class name. 25 other vessels of the 'M' class were built to special designs. HMS Mary Rose, launched on 8 October 1915, was an Admiralty M-class destroyer. She was sunk on 17 October 1917 approximately 70 miles east of Lerwick while escorting a convoy of 12 merchant ships from Norway.
HP Models Offerings
HMS Mary Rose 1916 WW I-WL-GB-016
HMS Murray 1916 WW I-WL-GB-017
Note: the kits are identical.
The model comes boxed with bubble wrap around each plastic bag. The hull is in one and a second bag contains all of the parts. There is a paper sheet of flags and a 3 page set of instruction drawings.
When comparing to AD Bakers� HMS Matchless drawing the hull shape is correct. There are too many port holes aft, they should only extend forward to the aft set of torpedo tubes. The anchor chain detail is also not correct.
Kit Contents
Hull Plan View
Hull Profile View
The Measurements
These are taken from the kit and from the drawing using a 0.150 mm Digital Caliper.
So from the references and the drawing of HMS Matchless the hull is .6% long and the beam is 1% narrow, not bad at all for a long available 1/700 kit. The W/L to deck measurements indicate the hull is too thick but placing in �water� will correct this. The funnel height should also be reduced, the profile drawing provided will allow for this.
The parts come on two wafers and it should be straight forward to clean them up. There are extra parts, there is an instruction drawing that shows how many you will need of each part type.
The first wafer has search light towers, 4� gun shields, cowl vents, 4� guns, 2 lb guns, torpedo tubes, search lights and Davits. It may be easier to replace the davits with wire PE. The WEM V&W Class Destroyers has quite a bit that can be used.
The second wafer has deck houses, platforms, life rafts, life boats, funnels, masts and small parts. There are instructions on the diameters and lengths required to replace the resin masts with brass wire (not provided).
The instructions are very basic drawings, one of the parts and one for positioning. There is a drawing with plan and profile views although it is simple and correct. AD Bakers� drawing is the one you want and should be easy to get. March has excellent drawings but the book is hard to come by.
There is the standard paper flag set for RN vessels provided.
There is no photo etch provided but likely your scrap box will have what little will be required. If you can get it WEM PE 791 1/700 Royal Navy V & W Class Destroyers has all sorts of useful items.
For colour indications photos are good references This is from "British Warships 1914-1919" by FJ Dittmar & JJ Colledge: May 6, 1915 Destroyers were to be painted dead black. On June 4, 1915 Destroyers to remain dead black but masts to become a very light grey. On July 7, 1916 all torpedo craft hitherto black to be painted grey. Hull 1 part black to 20 parts white (by weight), upper works to use mixture 1 part black to 23 parts white.
The HP Models M-Class Destroyer kit has been available for some time. It remains the only option for 1/700 scale. With some add on parts it is a good starting point for an M-Class destroyer.
Cheers,
George
With the increase in interest of modelling WW1 ships, here is an out of box review for the HP Models 1/700 H.M.S. Mary Rose 1916.
[attachment=9]HMS Murray.jpg[/attachment]
HMS Murray
There is good information available on the Miranda and Moon or M-Class destroyers of which HMS Mary Rose and HMS Murray are members. These were the standard British destroyers of WW1 most being built to a Standard Admiralty design with specials from Hawthorne, Thornycroft and Yarrow.
On the Web:
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Admiralty_M-class_destroyer[/url]
[url]http://www.battleships-cruisers.co.uk/moon_class.htm[/url]
Reference Texts:
1. British Destroyers From Earliest Days by Norman Freeman is the best reference with a great drawing of HMS Matchless by A. D. Baker III
2. British Destroyers by Edgar J. March gives many clear photos and copies of numerous Admiralty Sketch Design drawings. The Profile, Upper & Forcastle Decks drawing of HMS Mandate is very good
3. Warships Illustrated No. 7 British Destroyers in World War One by RA Burt
The M class, more properly known as the Admiralty M class, were a class of 85 destroyers built for the Royal Navy that saw service during World War I. All ships were built to an identical �Admiralty� design, hence the class name. 25 other vessels of the 'M' class were built to special designs. HMS Mary Rose, launched on 8 October 1915, was an Admiralty M-class destroyer. She was sunk on 17 October 1917 approximately 70 miles east of Lerwick while escorting a convoy of 12 merchant ships from Norway.
HP Models Offerings
HMS Mary Rose 1916 WW I-WL-GB-016
HMS Murray 1916 WW I-WL-GB-017
Note: the kits are identical.
The model comes boxed with bubble wrap around each plastic bag. The hull is in one and a second bag contains all of the parts. There is a paper sheet of flags and a 3 page set of instruction drawings.
[attachment=8]HMS Mary Rose HP 01s.jpg[/attachment]
When comparing to AD Bakers� HMS Matchless drawing the hull shape is correct. There are too many port holes aft, they should only extend forward to the aft set of torpedo tubes. The anchor chain detail is also not correct.
[attachment=7]HMS Mary Rose HP 02s.jpg[/attachment]
Kit Contents
[attachment=6]HMS Mary Rose HP 03s.jpg[/attachment]
Hull Plan View
[attachment=5]HMS Mary Rose HP 04s.jpg[/attachment]
Hull Profile View
The Measurements
These are taken from the kit and from the drawing using a 0.150 mm Digital Caliper.
[attachment=4]HMS Mary Rose Review Table.JPG[/attachment]
So from the references and the drawing of HMS Matchless the hull is .6% long and the beam is 1% narrow, not bad at all for a long available 1/700 kit. The W/L to deck measurements indicate the hull is too thick but placing in �water� will correct this. The funnel height should also be reduced, the profile drawing provided will allow for this.
The parts come on two wafers and it should be straight forward to clean them up. There are extra parts, there is an instruction drawing that shows how many you will need of each part type.
[attachment=3]HMS Mary Rose HP 05s.jpg[/attachment]
The first wafer has search light towers, 4� gun shields, cowl vents, 4� guns, 2 lb guns, torpedo tubes, search lights and Davits. It may be easier to replace the davits with wire PE. The WEM V&W Class Destroyers has quite a bit that can be used.
[attachment=2]HMS Mary Rose HP 06s.jpg[/attachment]
The second wafer has deck houses, platforms, life rafts, life boats, funnels, masts and small parts. There are instructions on the diameters and lengths required to replace the resin masts with brass wire (not provided).
The instructions are very basic drawings, one of the parts and one for positioning. There is a drawing with plan and profile views although it is simple and correct. AD Bakers� drawing is the one you want and should be easy to get. March has excellent drawings but the book is hard to come by.
[attachment=0]HP RN Flags 07s.jpg[/attachment]
There is the standard paper flag set for RN vessels provided.
There is no photo etch provided but likely your scrap box will have what little will be required. If you can get it WEM PE 791 1/700 Royal Navy V & W Class Destroyers has all sorts of useful items.
For colour indications photos are good references This is from "British Warships 1914-1919" by FJ Dittmar & JJ Colledge: May 6, 1915 Destroyers were to be painted dead black. On June 4, 1915 Destroyers to remain dead black but masts to become a very light grey. On July 7, 1916 all torpedo craft hitherto black to be painted grey. Hull 1 part black to 20 parts white (by weight), upper works to use mixture 1 part black to 23 parts white.
The HP Models M-Class Destroyer kit has been available for some time. It remains the only option for 1/700 scale. With some add on parts it is a good starting point for an M-Class destroyer.
Cheers,
George