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Good point, Marijn, thanks a lot for bringing it out! I have actually done it on some of my previous builds but it did not become a usual practise to me so I totally forgot to do it here.
I especially love suggestions to issues like this (or Jim�s) - that can still be corrected :D

Fantastic work Vladi! Great detailing and painting, and brought to life with an excellent seascape and crew. A model really to my personal taste! :thumbs_up_1: :thumbs_up_1: :thumbs_up_1:

Since you ask for input, one suggestion for the next model: you could paint the 'chain' or 'cable' parts of the railings in a different (darker) colour. Even when these were painted the same colour as the rest of the ship, due to their 'texture' they look different from a distance.
Painting them for example a dark dirty brown will provide a bit of extra variation and therefore life to a model, and will make them look a bit thinner. If you apply a bit of lighter brown only to the top of them after that (like a highlight), they will look even thinner.
You could also do this with cables that are part of PE-pieces, like the cables of the boat davits.
An example:
[img]https://farm1.staticflickr.com/861/40781619545_c8efa3021b_o.jpg[/img]

Cheers,

Marijn

Hello Jim, thanks for your point, you are absolutely right! I should have made the ensign look more similar to the sleeves on the foremast (which I made from kitchen alu foil crumbled and painted white). I will make a new, more crumbled ensign to show the wind - it can be replaced easily, it was attached using white glue.

Any other observation?

I have just seen the model in the gallery;

Fine model--very good presentation ad great 'feel' with much fine detail ! :thumbs_up_1: :thumbs_up_1:

1 x small obseravtion.;

I like the streamer at the fwd mast-- but like less the rising sun ensign--it does look a bit lifeless ...

With decal flags
whilst still damp, wrap them in a piece of paper and then crumple using tweezers in a vertical fashion
The paper softens the radius of the fold and prevents breakage.
quote from the Wien build of mnine 10 years ago (!)

[b][i]The Ensigns of various sizes were drawn on the PC using Serif drawplus8. wien33
They were printed onto whiter decal paper, sprayed with liquid decal film and cut out, and folded back to back. Once they had been dried �they were sandwiched in tissue paper and brutally crumpled. The tissue paper softened the radius of bend and prevented the decals splitting or getting scratched. The same procedure was followed for the signal flags(from my ever dwindling supply of Dunagain decals)[/i][/b]

link to model and build
http://www.modelwarships.com/reviews/ships/sms/wien/700-jb/index.html


Once dry and crumpled the flags were all given a light coat of matt varnish.

examples here below of decal flags in 1/700 )that have been crumpled in a paper sandwich as described above

hope this helps

and it can still be done retrospectivly ( with a new ensign! ) :wave_1:


[img]http://www.modelwarships.com/reviews/ships/it/Ancona-700-jb/images/Ancona--067.jpg[/img]


[img]http://www.modelshipgallery.com/gallery/dd/grk/smyrni-700-jb/smyrni-13.jpg[/img]


[img]http://www.modelwarships.com/reviews/ships/sms/wien/700-jb/images/wienfinal10.jpg[/img]

Thank you, Scott

Beautiful work,Vladi! :thumbs_up_1:

Scott

Hello Nopefield, I am glad you like my little Yunagi and thanks for the feedback on my WIP documentation. I saw your Mogami and I like it :thumbs_up_1: , it reminded me about times (not too distant) before I slipped down into the "detailing craziness" I�m in right now. It�s just upon your decision how much detail do you want, but beware that once you get into it there�s no easy way out ;). Fingers crossed!

Beautiful works for the model and your care for details! I don't know about feedback, but this is already detailed WIP documentation, very helpful and inspirational for beginners like me :thumbs_up_1:

I also like battle of savo island, hopefully someday i could build Chokai as good as yours :big_grin:

Thanks for your feedback, Dan and Martin! Your points taken.

Anything that I might have done better/different about this WIP?
Better photos, or better photo resolution (would require using external service like Flickr in case of the final photos)?
More attention to anything?
Whatever else?

Moved!
[quote="Dan K"]I think it benefits a lot of board members to have an interactive W-I-P. Plus, you potentially gain from having a wider circle of potential feedback, if not on history, then on techniques. My 2 cents.[/quote]
Agreed!

Brilliant work - she looks great.

I think it benefits a lot of board members to have an interactive W-I-P. Plus, you potentially gain from having a wider circle of potential feedback, if not on history, then on techniques. My 2 cents.

Thanks so much, Jose!

Actually, I would be grateful for some [b]critical[/b] comments on the way I did this WIP thread. This was my first attempt and I admit it took more extra work than anticipated compared to a simple summary of modifications like I did for my previous builds. I got some very useful replies to some questions related to the build that I raised, but I can perhaps achieve similar in private conversations. It is indeed very encouraging to receive all the support and praise, there�s no doubt about it - and thanks again to everyone!

Some of my related questions:
- is it worth this extra work from the follower�s / reader�s point of view?
- what do you expect from a WIP in general?
- what should I have done differently? Did you miss anything?

Thanks!

P.S. may I prehaps also ask one of the admins to move this thread to the Completed builds section?

Love the "full ahead scenery" :thumbs_up_1: :thumbs_up_1:



Jose :wave_1:

Thanks, gentlemen, glad you like her!

[quote="Dan K"] :thumbs_up_1: :thumbs_up_1:[/quote] Dan, I will definitely try aiming for three :thumbs_up_1: from you next time ;)

Nice build! Fine looking water also.

:thumbs_up_1: :thumbs_up_1:

Thanks, Bob! I need a few days of rest (and my wife even more :D) but I really look forward to it!

Simply outstanding work,Vladi! Can�t wait to see your upcoming Chicago build. :cool_2:




Bob Pink :wave_1:

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[size=120]OK, so here we are at last! [/size]

After matt varnish was applied, I put in place main guns and torpedo tubes, trained to port like towards the limping [i]USS Jarvis[/i]. I had to make a small correction to the height of the forward voice pipes, these were too low over forward torpedo tubes not leaving enough space for the crew. Then I placed boats and davits to their respective places and manned the ship with her sailors (3dmodelparts.com). In the meantime I finished the seabase (acrylic gel medium - based). Done! :woo_hoo:

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More hi-res photos are available in my [url=https://www.flickr.com/photos/vladi_k/albums/72157672677053438]Flickr album[/url].

This was an unexpectedly challenging build as I had to live with only 2 photos of the original ship taken 6 years before the date I aimed for, so I had to use educated guess more often then I liked. The possibility of using the Rainbow early-Mutsuki upgrade PE set for Kamikaze-class proved to be feasible. In the end only TEN original parts from the Pit-Road kit were used (the hull, waterline plate, forecastle deck, funnels, cutters and motor launch, and I also cut a part for the #2 gun deckhouse extension). The build spanned all in all five months, not counting the prior preparatory work. Quite a lot for a small ship that participated in the Battle of Savo Island without any real achievement ;) . Anyway, she�s now my #6 out of 11 classes of ships that participated in the epic battle, so I am now less than half way to my primary goal. Hooray!

Special thanks to Dan K and [url=http://mokeidaisuki.blog.so-net.ne.jp/]VAN[/url] for all their help and advice! And thanks again to everyone who supported my efforts :thumbs_up_1:

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Thanks a lot, Jose! I am 98% done at this moment, just the seabase needs some extra work. I will indeed take some decent photos and post them when complete, just give me 2-3 days :wave_1: