Norse Lady, a small lumber ship in WW II

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Re: Norse Lady, a small lumber ship in WW II

by Pieter » Wed Feb 20, 2019 6:35 am

Ouch! Hope everything else is OK with your Norse Lady, it looks very nice so far.

Re: Norse Lady, a small lumber ship in WW II

by Bouncy70 » Mon Feb 18, 2019 6:18 am

OK, found one upside to stretchy rigging material: When dropping the model upside-down on to the workbench, the foremast may bend but the rigging won't snap.

Situation recovered, although at some cost to the newly installed PE boom lifts.

Re: Norse Lady, a small lumber ship in WW II

by reigels » Sun Feb 17, 2019 10:53 am

Nice looking build. The deck cargo really sets it off.

Re: Norse Lady, a small lumber ship in WW II

by Bouncy70 » Sun Feb 17, 2019 4:42 am

Take a look at this thread, by the way:

viewtopic.php?f=13&t=168087

Captain Haddock is scratch building a 1/96 model of a very, very similar type of ship, also a WW I mass production type, a "Sub Boat".

Re: Norse Lady, a small lumber ship in WW II

by Bouncy70 » Sat Feb 16, 2019 2:18 pm

I've entertained myself with rigging the thing now, what little there is of it, the deck load is fixed in place and the masts likewise.

I've used the MIG/Uschi rigging thread for the first time, 0.02 og 0.03 mm diameter. Not too impressed frankly, the stuff is absurdly springy and that makes it very tricky to work with. I'll stick to monofilament fishing line of comparable diameter in the future I think, it is fixed-length and can be tightened up with a little bit of heat if needed. Much easier, and it knots better too.

I've added a little touch of weathering along the waterline of the model and touched up paint here and there. I have replaced the railing around the stern to get rid of the annoying overlap that Jim pointed out.

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I still have to make the cargo booms and their attendant rigging, and there are some crew figures I am going to stick on here and there, and I'll put a Norwegian flag on her too, but the end is in sight now. Nearly finished!

This photo may be of interest by the way, it shows my photography setup. A small light-tent illuminated by the lamps on my work bench.
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Re: Norse Lady, a small lumber ship in WW II

by Bouncy70 » Wed Feb 13, 2019 4:16 am

wefalck wrote:In the old days, up to the first years after WW2 the Scandinavians used any old ship, sail and steam, to transport cut timber around Europe and beyond.
Oh, believe me, some of the 1920-30s Norwegian ships that I have seen photos of while researching this do not inspire any great deal of confidence when it comes to either seaworthiness or common sense! The principle seems to have been "add lumber until she starts to wobble or take in water, then remove the last plank you added".

I suppose there was no great profit in this trade, so they had to squeeze every penny until it squeaked.

Re: Norse Lady, a small lumber ship in WW II

by wefalck » Wed Feb 13, 2019 4:06 am

In the old days, up to the first years after WW2 the Scandinavians used any old ship, sail and steam, to transport cut timber around Europe and beyond. Some of the 'hulks' were so leaky, that they literally floated on their cargo ... :eyes_spinning:

Interesting subject and nice rendering :thumbs_up_1:

Re: Norse Lady, a small lumber ship in WW II

by Bouncy70 » Wed Feb 13, 2019 3:23 am

Well spotted, that railing is bad craftsmanship on my part. I will try to fix it.

I agree that the deck-load maketh the ship in this case. I had no idea about the practice until I started looking into it for this project. The degree of apparent overloading of lumber in many cases surprised me - the overall effect is something one is more used to seeing on modern container ships!

I forgot to mention this, but it ought to be: The "planks" were spray-painted "Elfenbein", interior paint for WWII German tanks. Some slightly lighter "Deck Tan" was then used to pick out some planks, followed by a darker light brown for others. The colour difference is juuust enough to give some life to the surfaces.

Arguably the deck load is overscale but I am not too worried about this, it gives the right overall impression of loose planks and bits of wood in a moderately-tidy stack.

Re: Norse Lady, a small lumber ship in WW II

by JIM BAUMANN » Wed Feb 13, 2019 2:09 am

The deck load is really very excellent!!

The ship looks so much more interesting now -and a decload of lumber is seldom modelled!

BTW-- whist thig are still alterable

==> the stagger in the aft curved railing-- is that intentional?

I usually butt-join railings with a expansion joint of thinned white glue

HTH

JIM B :wave_1:

Re: Norse Lady, a small lumber ship in WW II

by Quincy » Tue Feb 12, 2019 8:33 pm

She looks great! Love a busy ship!! :thumbs_up_1: :thumbs_up_1:



Bob Pink. :wave_1:

Re: Norse Lady, a small lumber ship in WW II

by Bouncy70 » Tue Feb 12, 2019 7:05 pm

The deck-load pallets are pretty much complete and I have given them the basic coat of paint. Some washes will follow.

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Re: Norse Lady, a small lumber ship in WW II

by Bouncy70 » Sun Feb 10, 2019 7:22 pm

Real life has kept me busy since New Year's, but at last I can show some progress again. I wish to portray the ship carrying lumber like she did much of the time during WWII. Not very exciting, not terribly war-winning even, but necessary.

Now, lumber is not the heaviest of cargos, so the ship would max out on internal volume long before maxing out on weight. One often sees such ships carrying lumber as deck-cargo, stacked high and wide. Here are a couple of examples:

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"Anna", a small Norwegian lumber-freighter not very different from "Norse Lady", carrying neutrality markings (WW I? Unknown.) Note that lumber is stacked absolutely everywhere, even blocking the wing passages below the bridge!

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"Trollnes", a slightly larger ship than "Norse Lady", again carrying a deck cargo of lumber. I am guessing this is WW II era, plusminus a few years. She is not as madly overloaded as "Anna". Note the athwartships (chain?) straps securing the lumber.

These are just two examples, there are many more out there. Of note is the tendency to fill in the well-decks while leaving the cargo booms free (just) to operate. A small "well" is left open around the masts and winches. Sometimes a gangway of planks runs on top of the lumber piles, connecting forecastle/bridge/stern. It is quite common to see temporary battens supporting the lumber piles set up along the ship's sides, again made from lumber. Cannibalized from the load perhaps?

Now, the first thing I did was to use cardboard and mark out the available space for my cargo in the well-decks:
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I need to leave room around the masts, for stairs and ventilators at each corner of the deck, and at the sides for the mast's shrouds. The shrouds do complicate things!

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Cardboard templates. I then cut out the same shapes from plasticard, the plastic rests on top of the cargo hatches so have to be extended downwards to deck level and up to the desired height.

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Nearly completed deck cargo "pallets" - I have made them so that they can be removed from the model for painting and installed as units later. The bow pallet, left, shows an all-plank cargo, supported at the ship's sides by wooden battens. The stern pallet, right, shows a more mixed cargo - some planks at the sides, logs and large square timber balks midships. Here I have added the gangway mentioned above to connect bridge and sterncastle. A similar one will be added to the bow pallet.

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The model with cargo pallets in place. The masts will be installed at the same time as the finished, painted pallets - the shrouds run through openings in the deck cargo so it all has to be done rather carefully.

Re: Norse Lady, a small lumber ship in WW II

by Bouncy70 » Sun Dec 30, 2018 6:11 pm

The model as such is nearly complete. The masts are not glued in place and the booms and rigging are not done, and I need to touch up the paint here and there. I intend to add a deck load of lumber which will cover most of the visible surface in the well decks.

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Re: Norse Lady, a small lumber ship in WW II

by Quincy » Sun Dec 30, 2018 12:40 pm

Nice build!! :thumbs_up_1: :thumbs_up_1:



Bob Pink. :wave_1:

Re: Norse Lady, a small lumber ship in WW II

by Bouncy70 » Wed Dec 26, 2018 6:30 pm

Most of the photoetch is in place now. Some touch up of the PE paint is needed, it does flake off when handled.

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Re: Norse Lady, a small lumber ship in WW II

by Bouncy70 » Tue Dec 25, 2018 7:59 pm

The baseplate has been watered up and the model has been screwed into place, hopefully permanently.
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The middle level of the superstructure has been glued in place and I've started attaching photoetch. Masts, upper bridge etc are just installed for photography, not glued yet.
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The hull has been weathered, obviously. I'm trying to give the impression of a very hard-worked ship that is still trying to keep shipshape. Old, tired, but not a rust-bucket.

Re: Norse Lady, a small lumber ship in WW II

by Bouncy70 » Fri Dec 21, 2018 8:07 pm

I've cut out the hull shape and drawn in a rough outline of hull wave patterns for a speed of about 10 knots (which would be balls-to-the-walls flat-out speed for this ship but never mind that!):
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My next move is to splash some oil paint on it. Dark tones for this ship, blacks, grays, blues, a hint of brown. I'm thinking the Atlantic ocean, approaching shore, Octoberish and your typically ghastly autumn weather. It will be overlaid with "acrylic water" with a blue tint which will brighten it somewhat and even it out.
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Back in the photo tent, model in place to get an impression. I've brush-painted the gray on the upper works of the ship, another coat is needed and some touchup of the deck. (Hull and decks are spray-painted but, oh, the masking and the tape does so want to rip the paint away...) I've slimmed down the masts and installed the first photoetch on them too by the way. Wake patterns are lightly sketched with pencil on top of the oil paint, not really visible in the photo.
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Re: Norse Lady, a small lumber ship in WW II

by Bouncy70 » Thu Dec 20, 2018 6:55 pm

Baseplate of 6 mm MDF, holes drilled for screws to hold the model in place, countersunk on the bottom side of the plate. A sheet of fairly thick watercolour paper with a pronounced texture is glued on the plate top to act as a base for the waterscape. It will be painted with suitable maritime colours and then waved-up with acrylic water products from AK. I will cut out the hull outline next so the model will sit "in" the water:

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You can see the three screw-holes that I have drilled into the bottom of the hull. Some caution and foresight is needed here so the screws don't poke out of the model's deck!

Underside of baseplate, with countersunk screw-holes:

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The paper will be trimmed to size later of course.

Re: Norse Lady, a small lumber ship in WW II

by Bouncy70 » Thu Dec 20, 2018 5:17 pm

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A first coat of Light Sea Grey for the hull. I've masked the deck and superstructure with Camouflage Masking Putty from MIG. An interesting alternative to yellow Tamiya tape. A bit like a stiffer play-doh, knead it, shape it and stick it in place.

I've removed the oversized flagpoles and will replace them with thinner ones at a later stage in the build. I don't quite trust the physical strength of 0.2 or 0.3 mm brass rod!

In other news I've cut out the display baseplate for the model, glued paper to it as a starting point for a seascape and drilled holes for mounting screws in baseplate and model. And I've made a work handle for the model, it uses the same screw holes as the baseplate.

Re: Norse Lady, a small lumber ship in WW II

by Bouncy70 » Wed Dec 19, 2018 5:31 pm

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Some minor sanding and trimming here and there, and I've given the decks a coating of what is basically antifouling or primer red. As likely a colour as any I suppose. The flag-poles fore and aft will be replaced with thinner ones tomorrow I think.

The towering lighter is just a reminder of how petite this thing really is.

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