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by **ch hoeltge** » Fri Jan 24, 2020 1:30 am

Dan K wrote:She underwent a refit in 1939 that enlarged her lifts, but was otherwise unchanged thru 1942. The 1939 kit is probably post-refit.

Yes the 39, 42 and 44 kits all have the same parts for the ship. There are only different planes and decals inside. And the 44 kit has a new pe flightdeck of course.

Greetings Christian

by **Elmo44** » Thu Jan 23, 2020 9:06 pm

Dan K wrote:She underwent a refit in 1939 that enlarged her lifts, but was otherwise unchanged thru 1942. The 1939 kit is probably post-refit.

Thanks!

by **Dan K** » Thu Jan 23, 2020 11:32 am

She underwent a refit in 1939 that enlarged her lifts, but was otherwise unchanged thru 1942. The 1939 kit is probably post-refit.

by **Elmo44** » Thu Jan 23, 2020 9:49 am

ch hoeltge wrote:Yes Fujimi has indeed some aftermarket set for it:

PE-Set

Wood deck

Dry decal

Not sure if they are still available, but they are great and I used the pe parts and the dry decals on my Hosho .

As far as I know there are no other Aftermarketset available.

Greetings Christian

The deck and pe set are described as being for the 1939 Hosho. Are those correct for the 1942 fit?

Thanks for your reply.

by **ch hoeltge** » Thu Jan 23, 2020 2:02 am

Yes Fujimi has indeed some aftermarket set for it:

PE-Set

Wood deck

Dry decal

Not sure if they are still available, but they are great and I used the pe parts and the dry decals on my Hosho .

As far as I know there are no other Aftermarketset available.

Greetings Christian

by **Dan K** » Wed Jan 22, 2020 10:39 pm

It seems that these accessories have not been sold separately, as far as I can see.

by **Elmo44** » Wed Jan 22, 2020 7:58 pm

Hello, All

I have the Fujimi 1942 Hosho kit # 43104. I have Googled trying to find a wood deck and PE set but to no avail. I checked Scalemates but the information there seems contradictory and confusing.
Doers anyone know who offers an ahesive wood deck and photo-etch set for this kit?

Thanks

by **tjstoneman** » Tue May 28, 2019 8:41 am

How much is involved in modifying the Fujimi H?sh? kit depends on which kit you have. Fujimi's original H?sh? (Nr 43084, reissued as 43085 and 43086) dates back to 1995, and represents her original configuration as built. Fujimi issued a new-tool H?sh? in 2011 (Nr 43103), with a date of 1939 on the box. Since then, this version has been released, apparently with added parts, with box dates of 1942 (Nr 43103) and 1944 (Nr 43106). Warship 2008 (Conway Maritime Press, 2008) contains an in-depth article which covers modifications during her career.

by **Dan K** » Tue May 28, 2019 7:02 am

I am not well versed in her configurations. Obviously, she loses her island, and her forward flight deck loses it's slope and becomes horizontal.

by **JamesAPrattIII** » Mon May 27, 2019 6:13 pm

I would like to convert a 1/700 Fujimi model of this ship as built 1922 to the 1941-42 period can anyone help me?

by **One-Oh-Four** » Sat Jan 05, 2019 6:36 am

Dan K wrote:Hi, Erik -

The latex would have been mixed with grey paint to render it the same color. The latex had silica, sawdust and portland cement mixed in to improve its anti-slip qualities. I couldn't say exactly how effective it was; the IJN experimented with a lot of materials to find a substitute for the wood planking.

All surfaces can be slick when wet. Linoleum was apparently satisfactory option. The Japanese took their cues from the Royal Navy, which also used linoleum on their decks, though they called it corticene.

Thank you Dan! Very helpful to me! The confusion and uncertainty withheld me from commencing with H?sh?!

Cheers,
Erik.

by **Dan K** » Thu Jan 03, 2019 8:31 am

Hi, Erik -

The latex would have been mixed with grey paint to render it the same color. The latex had silica, sawdust and portland cement mixed in to improve its anti-slip qualities. I couldn't say exactly how effective it was; the IJN experimented with a lot of materials to find a substitute for the wood planking.

All surfaces can be slick when wet. Linoleum was apparently satisfactory option. The Japanese took their cues from the Royal Navy, which also used linoleum on their decks, though they called it corticene.

by **One-Oh-Four** » Thu Jan 03, 2019 5:19 am

Dan K wrote:The flight deck extensions for and aft were probably latex coated over metal plating. Everything else was originally wood planking over metal planking, and likely would have stayed that way.

Thanks Dan! Would this latex be grey or another color?

On another note, wouldn�t it be super-slippery when wet? I know I don�t want to ride my motorcycle over rubber speedbumps or those �glued-on� white stripes or arrows on the road surface in the rain. Touch the brakes and you perform geological research! For that same reason I don�t understand the Japanese use of linoleum on decks. I have slipped many times with wet shoes on the linoleum floors in school....

Cheers,
Erik.

by **Dan K** » Tue Jan 01, 2019 8:55 pm

The flight deck extensions for and aft were probably latex coated over metal plating. Everything else was originally wood planking over metal planking, and likely would have stayed that way.

by **One-Oh-Four** » Tue Jan 01, 2019 5:10 am

Dan K wrote:Her flight deck was lengthened in April, 1944, at which point she was painted gray and the flight deck was unpainted. At some point in 1945, she was given camouflage, but I am uncertain of the exact dates, colors and patterns.

Thank you, Dan! Do you know if the flight deck was full metal, or was it more a case of adding a piece in the front and the back (and slimming the sides) of the previous mixed metal/wood decking?
Wouldn�t an unpainted deck result in a rusty mess?

Best regards,
Erik

by **Dan K** » Sun Dec 30, 2018 8:39 pm

Her flight deck was lengthened in April, 1944, at which point she was painted gray and the flight deck was unpainted. At some point in 1945, she was given camouflage, but I am uncertain of the exact dates, colors and patterns.

by **One-Oh-Four** » Thu Dec 27, 2018 3:13 pm

I couldn't find this carrier in any of the other "Calling all" topics, but think she certainly deserves some attention! Besides that, I have a question I find it hard to find an answer to: I�m trying to find out what colour(s) H?sh? was painted after having her flightdeck lengthened. The instructions in a 1/700 Fujimi model kit I have aren�t too helpful. I would assume a standard grey on the sides and the top of the flightdeck from looking at the box-art and the instructions:

https://www.scalemates.com/products/img ... istine.jpg

https://www.1999.co.jp/itbig17/10179683t3.jpg

A photo on Wikipedia of H?sh? in 1945 suggests a camouflage scheme:

Can anyone please help me out which was the case and perhaps with the colours and the scheme if that was indeed applied?

Thanks in advance!
Erik B

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