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Re: Calling all Imperial German Navy Gro�e Kreuzer fans

by 81542 » Tue Feb 24, 2026 8:34 am

Bob,

I have recently "twigged" what you are on about.

What you are seeing is the overlap of one plate strake above another. I may be wrong but the Germans seem to have adopted this method of joining plates (at least in the above water part of the hull) in order to overcome the need to "joggle" in the side frames of the hull to accommodate the "inside" plates; which was done in British practise. The Germans may also have perceived that their system was stronger than anyone else's but I have no opinion on that: others may differ. The underwater part of the hull was, I believe a different matter. They did, in general, adopt the "in and out" system thus they would have had to "joggle" in the frames to accommodate the "inside" plates for smoothness.

It will be interesting to see how you achieve the desire effect.

Re: Calling all Imperial German Navy Gro�e Kreuzer fans

by Bob the Stug » Tue Feb 24, 2026 3:11 am

Excellent, many thanks Tim, greatly appreciated!

Now back to my ?? Hopefully you can see the three bands running from the bow backwards.

Re: Calling all Imperial German Navy Gro�e Kreuzer fans

by Bob the Stug » Tue Feb 24, 2026 3:09 am

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Re: Calling all Imperial German Navy Gro�e Kreuzer fans

by Timmy C » Mon Feb 23, 2026 6:22 pm

Ok the process is entirely different if you're using a phone.

At the bottom of the reply box, you'll see a tab for Attachments. Tap it. Then tap "Add files". Then tap on whatever app the phone offers for finding your files. Browse around for your photo - I don't know where that is on your device so can't tell you. Hopefully one of the filters like "Images" will narrow it down, or it's a Recent file so it's up top. Tap the image once you find it and it should be added to the post's Attachments. Then click Submit as normal and it should show up.

Re: Calling all Imperial German Navy Gro�e Kreuzer fans

by Bob the Stug » Mon Feb 23, 2026 3:44 pm

Being a bit of a dinosaur, I am having nightmares transferring the photo from the gallery or clipboard into the reply? I am using a android phone not computer

Can someone help please

Thanks bob

Re: Calling all Imperial German Navy Gro�e Kreuzer fans

by Bob the Stug » Mon Feb 23, 2026 3:42 pm

Being a bit of a dinosaur, I am having nightmares transferring the photo from the gallery or clipboard into the reply? I am using a android phone not computer

Can someone help please

Thanks bob

Re: Calling all Imperial German Navy Gro�e Kreuzer fans

by Timmy C » Sun Feb 22, 2026 4:37 pm

Bob the Stug wrote: Sun Feb 22, 2026 2:41 pm Hi not a problem

There are three single strakes running from the bow backwards close to the portholes and a single one from stern backwards.

Can someone kindly tell me how to post a photo? Never posted a photo lol

Thanks bob
I think those are what are usually considered plating. Strakes tend to be things that are more limited in width.

You can simply drag the photo from where you have it on your computer into the reply box.

Re: Calling all Imperial German Navy Gro�e Kreuzer fans

by 81542 » Sun Feb 22, 2026 4:06 pm

Bob,

Have a look at Timmy's post of Nov 24 2025 over on Page 10 of the "R" class battleship topic.

Re: Calling all Imperial German Navy Gro�e Kreuzer fans

by Bob the Stug » Sun Feb 22, 2026 2:41 pm

Hi not a problem

There are three single strakes running from the bow backwards close to the portholes and a single one from stern backwards.

Can someone kindly tell me how to post a photo? Never posted a photo lol

Thanks bob

Re: Calling all Imperial German Navy Gro�e Kreuzer fans

by 81542 » Sun Feb 22, 2026 11:45 am

Bob,

Pardon my ignorance of your kit but what do you mean by "strakes at the bow and stern?" Are they those on the underwater part of the hull or are they elsewhere? A photo might help.

Re: Calling all Imperial German Navy Gro�e Kreuzer fans

by Bob the Stug » Mon Feb 16, 2026 8:27 am

Hi all

Planning my build of the Hobbyboss Seydlitz. I am adding the missing strakes on the bow / stern.

Can anyone tell me what they were for? Can't see anything similar on the other German bettlesecruisers

Thanks bob

Re: Calling all Imperial German Navy Gro�e Kreuzer fans

by mifune » Mon Apr 14, 2025 12:10 pm

Thank you for confirmation! Those davits look good but are difficult to build.
81542 wrote:mifune,

The published photographic evidence that I possess of the ship shows that she did not have her sea-boat davits fitted at Jutland.

Like her sisters, L�tzow and Hindenburg,
Derfflinger was equipped with davits of the angle iron type when completed: hers were of a slightly different appearance. They all seem to have had them removed after initial trials when the ships became operational, however, the fittings to hold them remained in place.

Re: Calling all Imperial German Navy Gro�e Kreuzer fans

by 81542 » Mon Apr 14, 2025 7:39 am

mifune,

The published photographic evidence that I possess of the ship shows that she did not have her sea-boat davits fitted at Jutland.

Like her sisters, L�tzow and Hindenburg, Derfflinger was equipped with davits of the angle iron type when completed: hers were of a slightly different appearance. They all seem to have had them removed after initial trials when the ships became operational, however, the fittings to hold them remained in place.

Re: Calling all Imperial German Navy Gro�e Kreuzer fans

by mifune » Mon Apr 14, 2025 3:33 am

Hello.

When did they land Derfflinger's boat davits? Before Jutland or were these wrecked in battle?

Re: Calling all Imperial German Navy Gro�e Kreuzer fans

by mifune » Sat Mar 15, 2025 2:16 am

81542,

No obligation. It's up to modeller to deside. Have fun with your Hindenburg model!

Seydlitz had rails for boats on her deck. That is new to me.

I think I am going to do something like this.
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Re: Calling all Imperial German Navy Gro�e Kreuzer fans

by 81542 » Fri Mar 14, 2025 8:14 am

Mifune,

I have a copy of Staff's book and am engaged in making a 1:200 "scratch" model of SMS HINDENBURG: I am therefore obliged to accept what you say on what you call the powered "windlass" when making a model from a commercial kit of SMS SEYDLITZ. I do agree on the appearance of the "scotchman" under the chain cables of German warships. They were in fact of a different species of wood from the rest of the deck and I believe would appear slightly darker than the rest of the deck surface.

That said, I take the chance of advising anyone sufficiently interested in the subject ship type, that while the book is probably the best that we are likely to get printed in English for some while, one still needs to exercise caution in accepting the coloured "renditions" in it as "gospel." It is a good photographic resource though.

Re: Calling all Imperial German Navy Gro�e Kreuzer fans

by mifune » Mon Mar 10, 2025 3:26 pm

Hello!

While reading Gary Staffs book I realised some faults in Hobbyboss Seydlitz model. In real ship the deck under anchor chains was unpainted wood, not steel. The double barrelled capstan did not have a large steel disc under it. The one between capstans.

Seydlitz anti-torpedo booms/netting

by BB55 Fan » Thu Mar 17, 2022 6:49 pm

Can anyone point me in the direction of some decent diagrams of the SMS Seydlitz torpedo netting shelf and booms. I tried the CASF board but didn't notice a section for Seydlitz. The Hobby Boss kit doesn't include them and the Infini upgrade set is out of my price range. So an attempt at scratch building is my only option.

Thanks much!

Re: Calling all Imperial German Navy Gro�e Kreuzer fans

by Mr. Church » Sat Jan 11, 2020 6:22 am

Not somewhere you would immediately think to look for photos of German ships, but there is a veritable treasure trove of photos of the Yavuz (ex Goeben) available online on the U.K. Imperial War Museum Website:
https://www.iwm.org.uk/collections/sear ... =on&page=0

The majority seem to have been taken in August 1966 by which time Yavuz was out of commission and berthed at G�lc�k. There are plenty of 'walkaround' exterior photos and even some interior ones. Lots of angles and details that should be very useful to modellers.

Re: Calling all Imperial German Navy Gro�e Kreuzer fans

by Tin Can Gunner » Fri Dec 20, 2019 10:31 am

The Warship Pictorial refers to the first turret as "Anton"
Cheers
Jim

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