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Topic review - Calling all USS Iowa class (BB-61) fans
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  Post subject:  Re: Calling all USS Iowa class (BB-61) fans  Reply with quote
The butt straps he is referring to are Eduards #53126 Detail set #10 for the USS Missouri, but in 1:200 scale. I don't know if they make a set for 1:350 scale or not. You could check Eduards site and see. As for size, the best I can do it to measure mine and have you reduce the size to your 1:350 scale.
Post Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2018 7:37 pm
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Hi:

Well I'm in China at the moment and on my way to Russia, I know somewhere way back in the bowls of the thread I posted some photos from Missouri of these Butt Straps. It's an issue that has been significantly discussed and dimensions might exist. Possibly in the 60 something range of pages here.

Good Luck!
Post Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2018 5:34 pm
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Thanks guys,

Actually it is not that hard to create them, but harder is to create correct shape and size. So I was hoping for some drawings of hull from site. But if is not existing..

@Fliger747: cant you give me a name/link/ect for this? I didnt foun that on net..

One more question :)
Can you suggest to me which chain in 1/350 is best? Because I am little bit disapointed that pontos didnt include it in set.. And I ordered one from ebuy that should be for 1/350 scale, but looks little small to me (maybe for some cruiser is ok). And it is just simple O chain without that middle part. So I am looking for somethink better. I found 3d printed with correct shape, but in wrong scale..

Thanks
Post Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2018 2:52 am
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There is some PE available that simulates the butt straps that join these 60 Lb ( 3/4") plates in two rows above the waterline. For my scratch built BB63 I made my own, but you might check out Hank Strub's New Jersey, modified from the 1:200 kit.
Post Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2018 5:50 pm
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What you are looking for is the shell plate drawings.
They might not help you though as the show the metal as it starts out which is flat then bent into shape.

The best approach would be from photos.
Here is a good starting point to help with the reinforcement plates along the hull
viewtopic.php?f=74&t=158893&start=20

James
Post Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2018 5:27 pm
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Boro, the bow & stern are not armored as they have regular steel plate. if the bow was armored then the Wisconsin would not have had her bow replaced after colliding with a destroyer. http://navsource.org/archives/01/pdf/016467.pdf
Post Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2018 1:41 pm
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Fliger747 wrote:
The armor of the Iowa's was internal. Along the citadel there was a heavier external 60 lb plating, joined with riveted vertical buttstraps.

These would be the only external expression of the protection scheme.


Thanks, but actually I mean this:
http://wp.nauticus.org/wp-content/uploa ... 0x1024.jpg
http://wp.nauticus.org/wp-content/uploa ... 0x1024.jpg
Post Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2018 11:24 am
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The armor of the Iowa's was internal. Along the citadel there was a heavier external 60 lb plating, joined with riveted vertical buttstraps.

These would be the only external expression of the protection scheme.
Post Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2018 1:06 am
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Hello all,

I would like to ask you for a help.
I am working on Tamiya New Jersey 1/350
Dont you have armor plating scheme for hull of Iowa class?
I found just some photos of parts of hull, but nothing complex.

Thanks.
Post Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2018 6:11 pm
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Hi Friends,

I ran across this by accident and thought you might enjoy it. It kinda gives you a perspective on how big things on these big ships are! Take note - each barrel weighs 120 tons!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSgxpZD2qRw
Post Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2018 5:00 pm
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drdoom1337 wrote:
apologies if this has been asked in the thread already..

with the Very Fire NJ, are there any bridges released to convert it into 1944 appearance with the round bridge. I do have several Tom's Modelworks round bridges but those are designed for the Tamiya Missouri kit. The Joy Yard Missouri looks like the bridge is made out of PE to enable Iowa and NJ to be built later on?


Contact Model Monkey he makes several different scale NJ bridges. He also may be able to make what your looking for if he doesn't have it. I've been very satisfied with his parts.

https://www.model-monkey.com/product-page/1-350-uss-new-jersey-bb-62-round-bridge-1944
Post Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2018 11:41 am
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drdoom1337 wrote:
apologies if this has been asked in the thread already..

with the Very Fire NJ, are there any bridges released to convert it into 1944 appearance with the round bridge. I do have several Tom's Modelworks round bridges but those are designed for the Tamiya Missouri kit. The Joy Yard Missouri looks like the bridge is made out of PE to enable Iowa and NJ to be built later on?


I don't think so. It looks like they used photoetch just to make it thin. They'd have to change the deck above and below for the new jersey and the Iowa.
Post Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2018 11:16 am
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apologies if this has been asked in the thread already..

with the Very Fire NJ, are there any bridges released to convert it into 1944 appearance with the round bridge. I do have several Tom's Modelworks round bridges but those are designed for the Tamiya Missouri kit. The Joy Yard Missouri looks like the bridge is made out of PE to enable Iowa and NJ to be built later on?
Post Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 12:55 am
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Fliger747 wrote:
Does that drawing have any frame numbers associated with it? Aft, where the superstructure narrows there are several risers with the flanges facing inboard on the starboard side as shown.


FR101 and FR137 P/S.
Post Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2018 9:01 am
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Does that drawing have any frame numbers associated with it? Aft, where the superstructure narrows there are several risers with the flanges facing inboard on the starboard side as shown.
Post Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2018 9:55 pm
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Is this what we are discussing in regard to refueling?
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Post Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2018 8:44 am
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Yeah, Cliff, I would love to see what they really look like. But watch out for that hurricane. Sounds like it might turn out to be a real beast

And Guest, whoever you are - Thanks a heap! I have the digital version of the BB63 Plan Book and it doesn't say anything about these. Page 88 shows the side wall details from Frame 112 to Frame 137. And here I thought the digital version was the same as the (obsolete) printed version.
Post Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2018 5:12 pm
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Yes please Cliffy, some photos of those fuel fills would be great.

Larry, those are Fighting Lights and according to The Floating Drydock Plan Handbook on page 88, the colours were - Blue,Blue,White.
Post Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2018 3:06 am
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Do you guys want photos of those fuel fills in the waterways? I can get them later this week after the Hurricane goes through if you’d like.
Post Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2018 10:49 pm
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Hi Guys, Got a question -

What is this? If I had to guess I'd say it's some kind of light, and if it is, what colors are they?

Thanks

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