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Yes that was my question, Thanks Dan.
Greetings Christian
Yes that was my question, Thanks Dan.
Greetings Christian
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Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2019 1:14 am |
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If you are referring to the 25mmAA bandstands, then yes, these should be canvas covered railings.
If you are referring to the 25mmAA bandstands, then yes, these should be canvas covered railings.
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Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2019 4:09 pm |
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For my Ten Ichi Go project I will soon start with Aoshima Hatsushima with the AKA set. Are I'm right to asume that the armoured gun shields are wrong? This is the same error in the kit as the Kagero class kits. From the pic they seem to be twobar reeling with canvas.
Greetings Christian
For my Ten Ichi Go project I will soon start with Aoshima Hatsushima with the AKA set. Are I'm right to asume that the armoured gun shields are wrong? This is the same error in the kit as the Kagero class kits. From the pic they seem to be twobar reeling with canvas.
Greetings Christian
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Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2019 2:58 pm |
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Just noticed an interesting thing on the above image. It looks like the picture has been flipped judgeing by the torpedor gantry at the base of the rear mast. The picture is showing the port side of the ship.
Great image Dan. This is the first time I see an image of a late war Hatsuharu. Do you mind if I ask what is the source of the image?
Just noticed an interesting thing on the above image. It looks like the picture has been flipped judgeing by the torpedor gantry at the base of the rear mast. The picture is showing the port side of the ship.
Great image Dan. This is the first time I see an image of a late war Hatsuharu. Do you mind if I ask what is the source of the image?
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Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2018 2:16 pm |
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Hi Dan, Many thanks for the quick reply and the great image. I agree although the photo is not clear enough it does seem to have some clearance underneath the bridge. I will go with that decision. Thanks again for the help
Hi Dan,
Many thanks for the quick reply and the great image. I agree although the photo is not clear enough it does seem to have some clearance underneath the bridge. I will go with that decision.
Thanks again for the help :thumbs_up_1:
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Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2018 12:44 pm |
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The lack of clear photos makes this an iffy answer, but I think the answer is no. This photo seems to show some clearance under the flag deck.
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The lack of clear photos makes this an iffy answer, but I think the answer is no. This photo seems to show some clearance under the flag deck.
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Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2018 12:42 pm |
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Does anybody know if Hatsushimo ever received a radar room underneath the flag deck when refitted with the type 22 radar on the formast? Most of other IJN destroyer classes had this room introduced during the refit. However, both Aoshima and Pitroad late war Hatsushimo does not have this part. Unless the Hatsuharu bridge is already big enough to accomandate the radar room, I can't see any reason why this room shouldn't be there. But I can not find any photos for this area for the late war Hatsuharus to confirm.
Any help is much appreciated.
Does anybody know if Hatsushimo ever received a radar room underneath the flag deck when refitted with the type 22 radar on the formast? Most of other IJN destroyer classes had this room introduced during the refit. However, both Aoshima and Pitroad late war Hatsushimo does not have this part. Unless the Hatsuharu bridge is already big enough to accomandate the radar room, I can't see any reason why this room shouldn't be there. But I can not find any photos for this area for the late war Hatsuharus to confirm.
Any help is much appreciated.
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Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2018 11:59 am |
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The biggest difference between Ariake/Yugure and the other four sisters is that their forecastle is a little shorter. Also, the shape of the air intake behind the the forecastle break is a little different. I doubt any of the kits reflect those differences.
An early war Kasumi is going to be the same as any other Asashio class DD. The Pit-Road Asashio kit is really the only good option.
The biggest difference between Ariake/Yugure and the other four sisters is that their forecastle is a little shorter. Also, the shape of the air intake behind the the forecastle break is a little different. I doubt any of the kits reflect those differences.
An early war Kasumi is going to be the same as any other Asashio class DD. The Pit-Road Asashio kit is really the only good option.
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Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2016 7:58 pm |
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Whatever you do don't ever buy the old original 1970s Aoshima ships as they are terrible. The new ones are usually great. Good luck.
Whatever you do don't ever buy the old original 1970s Aoshima ships as they are terrible. The new ones are usually great. Good luck.
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Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2016 2:32 pm |
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Hi Dan K,
I'm asking the same question here as I did over on the kagero fans page as there were two Hatsuharu class ships in the fleet that bombed Darwin in Feb '42.
I'm open to either company as I'm off to Singapore on Friday and not sure what is available there.
After reading the page here Aoshima looks like the best chioce for an early war version plus adding the Five star set. Also need info on an Asahio class ship Kasumi if you know anything about that.
Hi Dan K,
I'm asking the same question here as I did over on the kagero fans page as there were two Hatsuharu class ships in the fleet that bombed Darwin in Feb '42.
I'm open to either company as I'm off to Singapore on Friday and not sure what is available there.
After reading the page here Aoshima looks like the best chioce for an early war version plus adding the Five star set. Also need info on an Asahio class ship Kasumi if you know anything about that.
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Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2016 12:46 pm |
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Which manufacturer, Aoshima or Pit-Road?
Which manufacturer, Aoshima or Pit-Road?
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Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2016 6:37 am |
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Hi guys,
Are there any differences with Ariake and Yugure to the the 1/700 kit of Hatsuharu.
I need two kits plus what P/E is available.
Hi guys,
Are there any differences with Ariake and Yugure to the the 1/700 kit of Hatsuharu.
I need two kits plus what P/E is available.
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Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2016 11:56 pm |
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Actually, the intake aside, I've always felt that their Hatsuharu/Hatsushimo kits to be among their best IJN DD kits. Their new Shimakaze kit is a very nice piece of work, not perfect (some fit issues), but mostly accurate.
Actually, the intake aside, I've always felt that their Hatsuharu/Hatsushimo kits to be among their best IJN DD kits. Their new Shimakaze kit is a very nice piece of work, not perfect (some fit issues), but mostly accurate.
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Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2015 2:38 pm |
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Actually, the intake aside, I've always that their Hatsuharu/Hatsushimo kits among their best IJN DD kits. Their new Shimakaze kit is a nice piece of work, not perfect (some fit issues), but mostly accurate.
Actually, the intake aside, I've always that their Hatsuharu/Hatsushimo kits among their best IJN DD kits. Their new Shimakaze kit is a nice piece of work, not perfect (some fit issues), but mostly accurate.
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Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2015 2:37 pm |
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Thanks Dan,
Yes the Aoshima kit does not show the air intake at all, the deck is just solid all the way across. Otherwise this is a nice kit. Very strange that they would miss an obvious feature such as this. Now I have to do some cutting and scratch building.
I have to say that I'm still a Skywave guy. They certainly aren't perfect but they produce some really nice stuff.
Thanks Dan,
Yes the Aoshima kit does not show the air intake at all, the deck is just solid all the way across. Otherwise this is a nice kit. Very strange that they would miss an obvious feature such as this. Now I have to do some cutting and scratch building.
I have to say that I'm still a Skywave guy. They certainly aren't perfect but they produce some really nice stuff.
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Posted: Sun Apr 05, 2015 10:27 pm |
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To the best of my knowledge, there is no photo (at least in the public domain or published) that depicts this area. There are plans, though.
I don't have any of the new Aoshima kits for this class, but after examining photos online, it seems that Aoshima has neglected to include the large air intake that sits in this area, whereas the PitRoad kit does have it. However, this intake did not sit in the same position, nor was it quite the same shape, for all six ships. Technically, Ariake & Yugure were variants - not quite a Flight 2, almost like a subclass.
The intake for these two ships sat slightly further aft and closer to the front of funnel #1. They were also taller and could be partially seen in profile as they were not totally obscured by the forecastle break at the end of the forecastle deck. The intake for the first four sisters was a bit more squat, and wider. It could not be seen in a profile view as the forecastle sidewall completely obscured it.
The PitRoad kit doesn't have it quite right for either group. The kit intake is too tall for the first four sisters (but easy enough to grind down) nor is it far enough back for Ariake & Yugure. HTH.
To the best of my knowledge, there is no photo (at least in the public domain or published) that depicts this area. There are plans, though.
I don't have any of the new Aoshima kits for this class, but after examining photos online, it seems that Aoshima has neglected to include the large air intake that sits in this area, whereas the PitRoad kit does have it. However, this intake did not sit in the same position, nor was it quite the same shape, for all six ships. Technically, Ariake & Yugure were variants - not quite a Flight 2, almost like a subclass.
The intake for these two ships sat slightly further aft and closer to the front of funnel #1. They were also taller and could be partially seen in profile as they were not totally obscured by the forecastle break at the end of the forecastle deck. The intake for the first four sisters was a bit more squat, and wider. It could not be seen in a profile view as the forecastle sidewall completely obscured it.
The PitRoad kit doesn't have it quite right for either group. The kit intake is too tall for the first four sisters (but easy enough to grind down) nor is it far enough back for Ariake & Yugure. HTH.
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Posted: Sun Apr 05, 2015 7:38 pm |
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I just bought the Aoshima 1/700 1933 Hatsuharu kit and I'm building it right now. I compared it to my Skywave W28 kit and there is a major difference in the layout of the main deck between the forward stack and the rear of the forward deck. Anyone have any photos of this area of the ship? One of the kits is definitely wrong.
Has anyone built either of these kits? Any photos? Thanks
Aoshima is sure making good kits today compared to years ago.
I just bought the Aoshima 1/700 1933 Hatsuharu kit and I'm building it right now. I compared it to my Skywave W28 kit and there is a major difference in the layout of the main deck between the forward stack and the rear of the forward deck. Anyone have any photos of this area of the ship? One of the kits is definitely wrong.
Has anyone built either of these kits? Any photos? Thanks
Aoshima is sure making good kits today compared to years ago.
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Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2015 11:26 pm |
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Mike W wrote: I've go the Pit Road one built up but that was from my pre-etching days, so I really want a new model to start from afresh. Problem is, I can't find it still for sale anywhere but I saw the Aoshima kit on sale at HLJ.
So it's a newer tool, which is good, what's verdict on it? I've got some of the newer tool Aoshima kits - Soryu, Hiryu, Fuso, Yamashiro, Nagato and Mutsu and they all look ok detail-wise to me!
thanks Mike I'll defer to Dan K for more detailed comments about historical accuracy, but I like my Hatsuharu 1933 kit and was working on it earlier today. It's leagues ahead of the first generation IJN destroyer molds, and certainly on par with Aoshima's recent releases of larger combatants. Finely molded details on the hull and deck, which look very nice under paint. Dedicated sprues for the bridge. Although the kit includes a standard IJN weapons sprue, there are dedicated sprues for the main and secondary armament, all with more detail. The two additional deck superstructures are molded with great detail, but assemble from several pieces which don't quite fit as snugly as one might hope given all the other attention to detail. A touch of putty will address. I'll post some pictures of where I am at in construction. I've got plenty of old-mold destroyers in my stash - this is a much more enjoyable build. Link to the circa 1933 kit and instructions: http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10135147, Take a look at assembly step 8 - parts B5, B6, and B17 are the ones that fit with some gaps. Another comment: Builders of this kit may want to upgrade some of the ships boats and davits with NanoDread/Finescale accessories. The kit relies on some of these parts off the increasingly dated IJN accessory sprue.
[quote="Mike W"]I've go the Pit Road one built up but that was from my pre-etching days, so I really want a new model to start from afresh. Problem is, I can't find it still for sale anywhere but I saw the Aoshima kit on sale at HLJ.
So it's a newer tool, which is good, what's verdict on it? I've got some of the newer tool Aoshima kits - Soryu, Hiryu, Fuso, Yamashiro, Nagato and Mutsu and they all look ok detail-wise to me!
thanks Mike[/quote]
I'll defer to Dan K for more detailed comments about historical accuracy, but I like my Hatsuharu 1933 kit and was working on it earlier today. It's leagues ahead of the first generation IJN destroyer molds, and certainly on par with Aoshima's recent releases of larger combatants. Finely molded details on the hull and deck, which look very nice under paint. Dedicated sprues for the bridge. Although the kit includes a standard IJN weapons sprue, there are dedicated sprues for the main and secondary armament, all with more detail. The two additional deck superstructures are molded with great detail, but assemble from several pieces which don't quite fit as snugly as one might hope given all the other attention to detail. A touch of putty will address.
I'll post some pictures of where I am at in construction. I've got plenty of old-mold destroyers in my stash - this is a much more enjoyable build.
Link to the circa 1933 kit and instructions: [url]http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10135147[/url], Take a look at assembly step 8 - parts B5, B6, and B17 are the ones that fit with some gaps.
Another comment: Builders of this kit may want to upgrade some of the ships boats and davits with NanoDread/Finescale accessories. The kit relies on some of these parts off the increasingly dated IJN accessory sprue.
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Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2014 4:19 pm |
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I've go the Pit Road one built up but that was from my pre-etching days, so I really want a new model to start from afresh. Problem is, I can't find it still for sale anywhere but I saw the Aoshima kit on sale at HLJ.
So it's a newer tool, which is good, what's verdict on it? I've got some of the newer tool Aoshima kits - Soryu, Hiryu, Fuso, Yamashiro, Nagato and Mutsu and they all look ok detail-wise to me!
thanks Mike
I've go the Pit Road one built up but that was from my pre-etching days, so I really want a new model to start from afresh. Problem is, I can't find it still for sale anywhere but I saw the Aoshima kit on sale at HLJ.
So it's a newer tool, which is good, what's verdict on it? I've got some of the newer tool Aoshima kits - Soryu, Hiryu, Fuso, Yamashiro, Nagato and Mutsu and they all look ok detail-wise to me!
thanks Mike
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Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2014 3:39 pm |
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Mike W wrote: I can't see anything on here regards the IJN's Hatsuharu class DDs, so I might as well start something!
I've noticed Aoshima have done a 1/700 kit of Hatsushimo (1945) with extra etch parts. Can anyone tell me if this is a new tool kit or not?
thanks Mike Aoshima's Hatsushimo 1945 kit was released in 2011. They also released circa 1933 and 1941 ships of this six-ship class at that time. I don't have a date for their original release of the kit (but the old version was re-released in 2005 with a modest PE upgrade). PitRoad also makes a Hatsushimo kit.
[quote="Mike W"]I can't see anything on here regards the IJN's Hatsuharu class DDs, so I might as well start something!
I've noticed Aoshima have done a 1/700 kit of Hatsushimo (1945) with extra etch parts. Can anyone tell me if this is a new tool kit or not?
thanks Mike[/quote]
Aoshima's Hatsushimo 1945 kit was released in 2011. They also released circa 1933 and 1941 ships of this six-ship class at that time.
I don't have a date for their original release of the kit (but the old version was re-released in 2005 with a modest PE upgrade). PitRoad also makes a Hatsushimo kit.
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Posted: Sat Sep 27, 2014 7:56 pm |
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