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Topic review - 1/400 Mirage four-stacker, DD 301 USS Somers
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Txs Jeff
I still have the 1/240 revell to do....but not gonna do it strait after wanna do some other...changes are nice
Post Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2019 7:22 pm
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You did a really nice work on those 4 piper. :thumbs_up_1:
Post Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2019 4:18 pm
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For those who didn't guess it....it Heller's 1/400 Prinz Eugen....the follow up on build will be my next new topic
Post Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2019 1:12 pm
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with these gone...a new capital ship has been put in the dockyard...the biggest I have started so far...


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Post Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2019 8:17 am
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was stress to have both ships to same level ...some stuff I thought adding...no time left...they had to be give ready on 26.12...this is how they ended up first witout Plexiglas box...next with box and as given.
Hope you all enjoyed this build
admin...this is done...no more adding as they have been given away


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Post Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2018 8:17 am
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first one almost done...second one not far behind


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Post Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2018 4:37 pm
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wanted to see if showcase ok...looks ok


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Post Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2018 3:11 pm
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:thumbs_up_1: :thumbs_up_1:
Post Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2018 8:07 pm
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dry fitted some stuff already ready but they will be fixed after securing second mast and some more riggings


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Post Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2018 2:16 pm
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Had some bad luck...broke main mast accidentally...with some rigging already done...pff a real pain
but...well those things happen so repaired it ...and did some more all you see is fixed


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Post Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2018 2:14 pm
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prepared - made the personalized show cases...for the name...found a firm fabricating those ..looks good


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Post Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2018 3:38 pm
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been busy ...but evolution made...all on the ships is fixed ..didn't dry fit all I have...showing some tiny details added like opening top of pipes


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Post Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2018 3:04 pm
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done a few super small things...I agree own input as no pictures show part in between 2 forward castles...well much modifications have been done and so many different versions of four stackers...so I just put some stuff I thought nice...it will look different once painted...but wanted to show how I made it
added a table and 2 pipes in bridge...painted walls white to give better visibility inside bridge
and of course...both ships same


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Post Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2018 2:19 pm
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all main guns done for both, some more painting and some small things done taking much time...put only 1 dryfit..the other is at same stade


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Post Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2018 12:18 pm
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some stuff made scratch....like ammunition rack for main guns..I opted for a 5 shell reserve and not the 10 you see in some images, as she was only on active duty during peace time...5 rounds per gun is largely enough
added a small thing on torpedo launcher...will be used to fix an extra line on it
and a global view of the two, dry fitted
I'll be stressed ...have a deadline to finish them both..26 Dec


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Post Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2018 2:03 pm
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wow...txs a lot those are the best shots I've seen so far from that area
I'll have to shorten what I made so far..its smaller than I thought...and I agree...not much on top of it...it might have been used as secondary observation platform...the view both sides from the middle and rear is very good and a few men on top there can help searchlight to find target
Post Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2018 3:22 am
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The other thing is, that the location of the boats at that time, made this platform handy for loading and handing the boats.

Here are some more images of that area. I had to go through almost 1200 Flush-decker images I have scanned. But first a short history of the alterations to this area on Flush-deckers.

As built there were variations between yards and as changes were made to "improve" the design. But, they universally had only one searchlight aft of the stacks.

Sometime in the early 1920's, the USN altered the searchlight platform to have two searchlights and this platform.

Starting in 1927 and by 1930 or so, the USN altered surviving active duty units returning to one searchlight on the searchlight platform. And then at some point, that platform one level below the searchlight platform was shortened to only under the searchlight.

Leading up to the US entry in and during WWII, there multiple changes going on. The searchlight platform was replaced with a all new platform that could support at first three 50-cal MGs and then one or two 20-mm guns.

Note on the first two images that this platform isn't very robust, It never would be able to support a larger caliber gun. And it appears that the platform deck is largely empty except for items being stowed there. I now don't think that con station equipment was located in this are or under the searchlight.

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In this photo dated in June 1927, the number of searchlights has been reduced to ONE, but the lower platform is still there. Note that the crew has stowed a work boat on the platform.

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Post Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2018 1:41 pm
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been looking big time...no clear pictures of it to be found...most pictures of the fourstackers is after 1940 ...during war...or later
Post Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2018 11:01 am
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To answer your question. As for the platform aft of the searchlight platform, I don't think that guns were mounted there. Look at the image third from the bottom on USS SOMERS (DD-301) Navsource page. Even though that area of USS SOMERS can't be seen, that area can be seen on her DesDiv sisters moored with her. A single water cooled 50-cal MG mounts would be seen, even if the gun its self was removed. See the attached image from another flushdecker in the mid-1920s showing the platform without the canvas on the rails, it looks like the platform was the aft emergency con station with minimal navigation equipment. Lewis 30-cal MGs may have been able to be used on that platform, but given its function, that is unlikely.


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Post Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2018 12:09 am
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the little pieces...per ship and details done on 1...will have to be done same on other ship....don want jealousy in the family


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