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Re: sprue railings

by Willie » Thu Dec 07, 2006 5:09 pm

largeallan wrote: ...so, has anyone tried railings in this medium......or even better is there a thread anywhere on the site showing something of the technique......or indeed is it a waste of time and I should just invest in some brass?....1:400 so not too mindmelting on this one
your thoughts please gentlemen
Well, I have tried and done, not to perfection, but at least to some modest satisfaction.
I have made them in 1/400, 1/240 and 1/72 -- it is not complicated at all.
There is a thread on this same subject where you can see some pics of different models :

http://www.shipmodels.info/mwphpBB2/vie ... php?t=9273

http://www.modelshipgallery.com/gallery ... index.html

My method is : I cut every stretched-sprue rod to an approximate length, place it with CA ( if on main deck you will have to open a hole with the tip of your X-acto ), glue the cable with Humbrol poly, and sand away the excess of sprue rod with a soft sand paper.
It is somehow long, but very simple.
Very best regards,

Willie.

sprue railings

by j leyland » Wed Dec 06, 2006 5:12 pm

I started using sprue railings in 1977 and continued until photoetch from GMM was available. Here is my method, although I cannot begin to duplicate GMM quality. If you have access to a copy of FSM for Mar. 1991 you can see some of my old models with sprue rails pp. 24-25.

The key is to use stanchions (vertical posts) which are somewhat thicker than the lines (horizontal wires). To make stanchions of equal length, stretch your sprue and then cut it into 4 in. long pieces, then line up 8 lengths parallel, so that each cut with your razor blade produces eight equal stanchions. I would use a photoetch man as a length reference. Once you have a supply of stanchions, use a sharp centerpunch or large pin to mark the location of each stanchion, then carefully glue then in place. Let them dry completely, then go back with a brush and liquid Testors cement and lightly (too much will dissolve the stanchion and cut it off) touch the base of each to make sure it is solid. Again let this dry fully while you stretch the finest possible sprue for the horizontal wires. Now VERY lightly touch the first 3 stantions with liquid cement trying NOT to let any run to the base of the stanchion. Place the beginning of a length of your superfine sprue at the level of the lowest rail and adjust its position carefully with the brush tip. The key is to use almost no cement, as excess will cut the fine strand (a useful tool as you will see). Continue along the row of stantions. If you come to a turn or the end of a row, put a LITTLE more cement on the last stanchion and it will cut cleanly off. This effect is an advantage in rigging with sprue also. You can now see why the stanchion has to be somewhat thicker than the wire, as you have to be able to cut the wire without also cutting the stanchion. You will be very suprised to find how quickly you can master this. If it is giving you too much problem, try a different brand of spure. Try to select a plastic which dissolves easily with Testors cement, especially for the wires. Hope this helps. I think that this method gives better appearance than photoetch in 1/350 and larger, but I can't match GMM fine rails in 1/700.

by largeallan » Tue Dec 05, 2006 6:53 am

I guess your right guys, the sprue has its uses, and I want to use my new found skill on EVERYTHING!!!!...for all the PE railing sets cost anyway!!

great model Rob.....and fantastic sea too....love the 'bow on' shots

Re: sprue railings

by Rob » Tue Dec 05, 2006 4:16 am

largeallan wrote:.....yes, I've wandered into the world of sprue stretching....with some success so far....even if I do say so myself (I've tried to interest my girlie, but just got the usual glazed look).

...so, has anyone tried railings in this medium......or even better is there a thread anywhere on the site showing something of the technique......or indeed is it a waste of time and I should just invest in some brass?....1:400 so not too mindmelting on this one

your thoughts please gentlemen

Al
It can be done even in 1/700. I did so for my submarine M1 purely out of necessity as I couldn't find the rails I needed.

Best way is a metal wire stanchion, attach the sprue at one end, then go stanchion by stanchion. A similair technique will make 1/700 awning lines.

http://www.modelshipgallery.com/gallery ... index.html

To be honest, stick with PE if you can find a suitable fret. Sprue railing is very fragile, very fiddly and very time-consuming.

Cheers,

Rob Kernaghan

by tony t » Mon Dec 04, 2006 10:22 pm

Yes, I've heard of people who used to make railing out of stretched sprue before photoetch came along. For 1/350 or smaller I'd reccommend using PE, it will save you a lot of time and aggravation.

For larger scales (1/200 or larger), you might consider scratchbuilding railings out of sprue, wire or whatever, to get a more 3-dimensional look.

sprue railings

by largeallan » Mon Dec 04, 2006 9:28 pm

.....yes, I've wandered into the world of sprue stretching....with some success so far....even if I do say so myself (I've tried to interest my girlie, but just got the usual glazed look).

...so, has anyone tried railings in this medium......or even better is there a thread anywhere on the site showing something of the technique......or indeed is it a waste of time and I should just invest in some brass?....1:400 so not too mindmelting on this one

your thoughts please gentlemen

Al

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