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Continuing with 1938 volume

Usual plans means side view with some internal details blended in, usually dashed, plus all deck plans. Often, the midships frame.

Channel motor ship Royal Sovereign - usual plans
Modern fishing steamer (Ludwig Janssen) Usual plans, photo outside and details
Technical development of south east european shipping - several photos of austrian, hungarian, romanian vessels and harbours
Coal gas driven ship "Gustav Knepper" - photos
MS Oslofjord - photos of launch
Tanker "China" - photos while building
Big sucking dredge "Chien She" - photos
Recent fire on a steamer - no name is given, several photos of damage, and schematics of the fire spread
Launch photos MS Patria, ship Trak
Fire fighting boat photo
Steamer Orcades - side with details
Diesel electric Clyde ferry - usual plans

To continue tomorrow...

After a break, I picked more more yearbooks at the library, to index and scan

1939 issue
4-screw Danube-motortug "Bern" photos and engineering plant drawings
Modernisation of Joliette basin in Marseille harbour - plans before and after, general plan, cut through storage halls, photo
Romanian passenger motorships "Transilvania" and "Basarabia" - side with some interior details, decks
Carrier "Graf Zeppelin" launched - 2 photos
Launch of the Bismarck - 1 photo
Steam Tanker with extra passenger accomodation San Jorge - many in and out photos, general arr., decks, screw and rudder, eng. plant
Adm. Hipper during trials photo
International route map for large flying boat routes, plus photos of employed boats - Do-26, Empire "Capella", Boeing 314, Ha-139
Dominion Monarch - cut (no outside details), decks, a few photos.
New york fire fighting boat "Fire Fighter" - photo, side/cut, decks
Lubeck harbour crane photos
Copenhagen harbour photos
Donau vessels - several photos of different vessels, side cut of rumanian steamer Regele Carol II, plan reproduction of german 1000t barge
Side cut "Durban Castle" and "Pretoria Castle"
Photo of "Sirogane Maru" passenger motorship
Photo "Helgoland" turboelectric ship
KdF Electro-Motorship Robert Ley - side+decks, lots of photos
Carrier Arc Royal - schematic plans, photos. Photo of Illustrious while building
Swedish motor tanker Sveadrott - photo, side + decks
Photo turkish sub Batiray after launch
Photo Launch Motorship Don Isidro
photo Aircraft rescue ship Greif
Berlin Tempelhof airport - report about building it, plans, sketches and photos
More data on Copenhagen harbour. Plans and photos
New Zealand coastal motor ship Karitane - usual plans + photo
Southhampton-Isle of White motor ferry Vecta - side, decks, photo
New measuring (hydrographic) boats for Siam - side+deck+midship cut, photos in and out
Warship photos - Grille, Hipper, Sharnhorst, Schleswig Holstein, Emden
New motorship Selandia - usual plans
twin screw motor passenger ship "Konigin Emma" (Vlissingen-Harwich ferry) - side+decks, eingineering plant plans and photos
Diesel electric paddle wheel tug Szechenyi (Hungarian). Photo, Side+deck, lots of eng. plant
"Twickenham Ferry", "Hampton Ferry" and "Shepperton Ferry" Dover-Dunkirk ferry ships - side + midships
Hamburg-American line "Helgoland" with Voith-Schneider propellors - photos, usual plans, midship cut, detailed stern plans
NYK Sakito Maru/Sanuki Maru/Sado/Sakura.Sagami/Sagara/Sasago Marus usual plans.
Transatlantic pass. flights - photos of Do-18, Do-26, Ha139B, Ju-90, FW200
Belgian MS Baudouinville - usual plans, photos
Photos of MS Chrobry, Don Isidro, Lurssen record S-Boat
Fire fighting boat from Hamburg - photo + usual plans
Large dredger and rock breaker ship plans + photos
Amiral Murgesku minelayer - photo of launch
Motor ship Oranje - usual plans, photos
photo MS Korea
MS Sobieski - usual plans
Argentinian motor ferries MOP 8-12 - usual plans, photos, eng. plans
photos of MS Sofia, Athen, Cairo
US C1 ships - schematic plans, decks, data
Dutch MS Klipfontein - usual plans, photos
Stranraer-Larne ferry "Princess Victoria" - usual plans, photos
Rail ferry Storebaelt - photos, usual plans

masforgo wrote:Hello,
I need general arragement plans of Selma Thorden.
Thank you in advance!!!!

I sent it to you per email today, I hope it would help!

Hello,
I need general arragement plans of Selma Thorden.
Thank you in advance!!!!

PeterG,
I've sent you a PM regarding m.v. Ramb

PetrOs,
Do you have anything on 'Shanghai Maru' or her sister ship 'Nagasaki Maru' built by Wm Denny for NYK and launched in August 1922 and March 22 respectively? It may be a little early for your 'yearbooks' but any info most welcome.

Thanks

Jim S

If you can lay your hands on Shipbuilding Cyclopedia, published in 1920, it has loads of merchant ship plans, including a lot of the US War Emergency ships from WW1.

Ok, in my next batch of WRH books (likely in june) I will just take 37-39 issues and check

PetrOs wrote:Hey

So far, I dont have the RAMB's plans. Which year was she constructed? It could well be reflected in the WRH magazines on that or following years...

Drop me your email per PM, I would select a few plans for european motorships with layout plans, and send them to you.

Cheers
Petr

I'm to new a user to be allowed PMs.

The RAMB I thru IV were built in 1937 and 1938 in Italy for the Italian govt's bannana monoply company. Trade was from Italian colonies to Italy.

Hey

So far, I dont have the RAMB's plans. Which year was she constructed? It could well be reflected in the WRH magazines on that or following years...

Drop me your email per PM, I would select a few plans for european motorships with layout plans, and send them to you.

Cheers
Petr

PetrOs wrote:Hey

Being a merchant navy fan, I found some interesting options on getting the plans, drawings, etc from the old ships, using inter-library loans across Germany university libraries. I have got a number of books and magazine yearbooks recently, and would like to present them, so you know what to expect, and would also list the useful plans in followups. I would be scanning the plans for my private use.

Trying to get some information motor ship construction for pre-WWII motor ships. Specifically looking for info on the RAMB II, an Italian bananna ship which later became Tito's (of Yugoslavia) yacht.

Best case would be engine room layout or general layout of the RAMB, but barring that:

In general, would European built motor ships of the interwar era have a void under the engine room? or tankage? or would the engine room be directly on the hull? Or did it vary?

Peter

Hey, sorry that I did not reply earlier. These are not yet scanned, but I would take a look that I do it soon.

Hello,

I saw your posts and would be interested in any info on the following vessel's

Cap Arcona
Ile de France
S/S California
General Osorio

If you could PM me or reply back, i would be very appreciative.

Basimon

Got the 30, 32, 33 and 41 issues (31 is missing).

The 1941 issue is quite interesting, here's the index (only modeling-relevant stuff, omitting all theoretical articles). Ships marked with + are adequately covered for making a model
+ New hungarian Danube-sea class ship "Kassa" - data, long. cut, lines, decks, engine room, davits, mult. in and out photos
New modification of a Do-18 flying boat - many photos
photos of a "modern minesweeper" and "twin screw rescue tug Arngast"
+ Turboelectric ships "Josif Stalin" and "Viacheslav Molotov" - photos, side, decks, engines
Launching of USS North Carolina - photo, different data and arrangement sketches. More data/sketches about launching arrangements later.
Diesel engine in shipping - a huge historical article covering the diesel engine development, and all companies doing ship diesels, with loads of photos. Contains photos of M/S Romagna, liners Victoria, Oranje, the first sulzer-diesel tug in Hamburg harbour, M/S Vulcania, Andrea Gritti, Tanker Franco Martelli, Rhine-express ship Koeln
New US tugs - photos of Edmond J Moran (controls and outside), H.T. Debardeleben (Kort propulsion and outside), interior of tug Crusader, tabular data.
+ 1000t barge for Danube - side, lines, photos for several versions
+ RMS Mauretania (1938) - large foldout plan of cutout, all decks, several photos, engineering plant plans,
Plan and photos of Stockton harbour, storehouse cutout
+Hafenunterhaltung III tug. Lines, side, deck
+Inspection cutter Carl Feddersen - side, deck, cuts, lines
A large report of a shipbuilding exhibition in Helsinki, many harbour photos of Crichton-Vulkan dockyard, photos of Coastal BB Ilmarinen, 3000t ship Orbice Thorden, a modern 7200t ship of C-V werft, many stand photos of exhibitors
Large report about Finland's harbours - photos and schemes (harbour and different elements) of Helsinki, Hamina, Kotka, Valkom, Lovisa, Turku/Abo, Pori
+ Motorships Selma Thorden and Kristina Thorden - Gen. Arrangement, decks, tech data. Photo in a exhibition report above.
+ Motor Tanker Braconda (Malmo built, Norwegian owned), Gen.Arr + decks, photos
Rotating current harbour cranes - loads of photos
+ Swimming transporter/loader for thick-liquid dredge
East river tunnel in New York
Electric harbour cranes in Hamburg - photos
Loading bridges development - photos, plans

Thats it. I will start scanning it today in about 2 hours, so if you are interested in a specific section - gimme a shout so I do it today!

Hey

All right, scheduled for scan next week - I have an access to an industrial scanner at work, so much faster and better to do it there.

Hi Petros

I would like go get as much info. on these subjects as possible

Swimming Seaplane arrangement on Weser � number of photos, plan of a swimming pier and harbour
Photo � twin screw MS Sud Expreso
Railway transporter Seatrain � side, decks, photos, cut
Photo � launch of a 6000t swimming dock, tug Elbegenosse

Especially the seatrain, since they had 3 differnt roles,before the war railway carriers,during the war as aircraft ferry and heavy transport/tank carrier (uss kitty hawk and hammondsport as APV 1 and 2,and Uss lakehurst as heavy transporter)

Hello once more

I have scanned most of the 1928's things, especially where the plan set was extensive enough for a ship model. Contact me if you are interested.

Now, indexing the 1929

Pass.Cargo M/S Infanta Beatriz - photos inside and outside, side, decks, cut, engineering arrangements
Photos - Launching M/S Sauerland, M/T Max Albrecht, pontoon based derrick
Scheme - design plan of Panzerschiff Ersatz Preussen (future pocket battleship study)
Kali-loading arrangements in Bremen - photos, plans
Photos of small motorized cranes for docksides
Building a small motor tanker -photos, detailed plans
Photo - M/T Sir Karl Knudsen
Illumination of the harbor installations - photos, plans
3-screw tug Direktor Schlueter (river) - photos ,3 view, number of cuts, rudder arrangements
Passenger-Cargo S/S Conte Grande - 3view, decks
twin screw motor passenger ship Kungsholm - photos inside and outside, 3view, decks, cuts, engineering arrangements
Ore loading harbor in Rotterdam, plans, photos, cranes
Photo - M/S Milwaukee launching
Twin Screw Motor Passenger Cargo Ship St.Louis - photo, different cuts, 3view, decks. Next issue - many interior photos, engineering installations
Review - English Cargo and Fishery harbors - Southhampton plans, London plans, Tilbury, Liverpool, Photo Sandon Docks London, details London, different buildings and cranes. In the next issue - Manchester, Ellesmere, Hull (incl photos), Immingham, Grimsby
Elbe-harbors of Dresden and Riesa - plans, photos
Ice breakers on Elbe - Small Icebreaker Walross (3view), photos
Oil terminal in Antwerpen
Itajahi harbor, Laguna harbor
Whip-crane photo
Development of the Kiel harbor- plans, photos
Photo � Steamer Helios
A number of passenger aircraft photos � Superval, Junkers G31, Rohrbach Romar
Passenger Motorship Vulcania � HT Steel plan, 3-view, decks
Launch photo � Steamer Portugal, photo � 2000t floating dock for Montevideo
T/S Bremen � photos. Many of them in a number of magazine issues.
Photo � SS Soervangen
Single Screw Rescue boat Geheimrat Sartori � side, deck, photos
Motorship Rangitiki � side, decks, cut
Battleship Nelson arrangement plan
Large foldout photo � baggers and their work
River M/S Scotland � photos, side, decks
11m Inspection motor boat Piep � 3view, hull lines, photos
T/S Pass-cargo Amstelkerk and Maaskerk � photos, side, decks, cut, rudder. Second block with engineering plans and photos
Flensburg � 2 photos
Swimming Seaplane arrangement on Weser � number of photos, plan of a swimming pier and harbour
Photo � twin screw MS Sud Expreso
Railway transporter Seatrain � side, decks, photos, cut
Photo � launch of a 6000t swimming dock, tug Elbegenosse 2, sea tug Anastas Mikojan
Pilot ship Altenbruch � photos, cut, side, decks, engines
Coastal Passenger M/S C.F.Tietgen � side, decks
Saloniki Harbor plan, Bahia, Angra dos Reis, Rio de Janeiro, Nictheroy
Photo M/S Alsia, some construction ships
Twin screw, pass-cargo motorship General Osorio � side, decks, cut, rudder, loading, photos
Diesel motor yacht Orion � photos (in/out), side, decks, photos, cuts, rudder. Photos of other similar yachts Nimet Allah, Vanadis, Cyprus, Nourmahal.
Motoships Sud Americano and Sud Expreso � god these are ugly! So ugly that would be interesting to build! Hull Lines, side, decks, photos
Cruiser Leipzig � sketch, photos on the yard
Do X photos, plans
Photos and plans for Simplex-Balance rudder, incl. some ships
Bodensee-Steamer Allgaeu photo (plans are in the 1930 issue)

So, I finally came to loan the next 3 yearbooks, 1928, 29 and 30

28:

Reconstruction of a stem tug Helene to a diesel. Side view, deck view, mid cut, photo
American Coastal Steamer Yarmouth - long. cut.
Norwegian coastal passenger freighter Sanct Svithun - photo, hull lines, cut, side profile, all decks
Stern-wheel steamer Valiant for Lagos - side with details, decks, bridge
Steamer of Ajax class - photo, engineering arrangements
Car loading in harbor - a number of photos, and schemes of loading cranes
Repairs of a steamer Vaterland after a heavy fire, including lengthening. Side, all decks, before and after. A few damage photos
Motor passenger and cargo ship Kota Inten. Detailed side, decks, photos, cuts.
Diesel electric dredge Nr.5. Side, decks.
Single screw motor tankers Sildra, Vinga, Spinanger - photos, side, decks, arrangement plan, a number of cuts. Later some more structured decks, hull lines, photos of building, deck details, pump plans, stability calculations.
Duisburg on Rhine cargo port flooding protection system - sketches, photo
Kopenhagen harbor - plan, cuts of harbor buildings, cranes, photos.
Fast Steamer Malolo - Photo, decks, half-cut, economic room arrangement.
Nice photos of a M/S Pacific president, M/S Infanta Beatriz, Motor Tanker Abadan on trial, M/S Kungsholm launch.
US 4-screw motor ship Bermuda. Canalization system, side, all decks, engines
Small passenger cargo steamer Oberon. Side, decks, engines
Passenger cargo steamer Kedah - side, decks
Motor cargo ship Yahiko Maru - cut.
Photo - Motor passenger ship Krim before launch
Charleston S.C. harbor - 3 photos
Channel steamer Ben-my-Chree - long. cut.
Diesel electric dredge Geheimrat Brennecke - photo
Twin screw M/S Taronga and Talleyrand - Side, decks, cuts
Small Twin screw M/S Elisabeth Auguste and Marie Mathilde, photo during trial, hull lines, decks, cuts, side, engines
Some modern (for that time) excavators. Sketches, photo
Malmo harbor - plan, construction of a dockside, tanker photo
Damage and repairs of a steamer Nagara - damage sketch, details of repair
Photo of a m/s Kapitan Ruge on trial
Cruiser Koeln being launched - photos
Dornier Superwal flying boat - photos
Single screw T/S Leuna and Hoechst. Photo, cut, side, decks, photo and plan of screw (identical ships with different screw/rudder arrangement), flotation calc, engines (photos, sketches)
Dornier Delphin III flying boat - photos
Pilot ships Kersten Miles and Simon von Utrecht. Hull lines, cuts, side, decks, photos
Single screw cargo ship Hohenstein, photos, side, decks, hull lines, cuts, engineering plans, stability calculations, screw, rudder
Twin-swimmer Barge unloading system. Very nice photo, idea description sketches, details of both swimmer pontoons and unloading crane, winches. Photo of control post.
Single screw M/S Ingrid Horn - photo, side, decks, cut. hull lines (only ribs). Photos on deck and different rooms, rudder detail sketch, Cargo mast detail sketch, Motor photo
Photos of launching of Bremen and Europa liners. On-deck photo of Trawler Gleiwitz in heavy seas on trial.
New Rhine Motor cargo ships for Rotterdam-Basel service. Side, decks, photo, cuts, photo of winches and engine.
Steamer Cimbria under construction
Photos of Spitzbergen coal harbours
Maier-Ship form. A number of ship photos comparing old and new hull forms for small ships.
M/S Augsburg for service on Elbe river, side, decks, cuts, photos
Photos of Linzer Werft, Tug Otto Krawehl VI, Steamer Victoria (danemark, not the liner Victoria)
Rohrbach Romar flying boat - photos, three view
Tanker construction on Germaniawerft. Photos of ships under construction, design data and plans for the new 15600t tankers - side, decks, cuts of 2 variants (one is Montrolite and Canadolite, other yet unnamed ship for Standard Oil Co.)
Harbor of Gdingen - plan
Photo of Hilda Knudsen tanker
20m Firefighting boat for Brasilia - side, hull lines, decks, photo, cuts
S/S Orford Side, decks, engines with photo
Expansion of Kotka harbor - variants, many sketches
Coal loading arrangements at Rendsburg harbor. Crane sketches, photos
A number of Rhine passenger ship photos - Hohenzollern, Friede, Prinses Juliana, Frhr. von Stein, Ernst-Moritz Arndt
S/S California - Side, decks, cut, engines
ILA report 1928, including a nice Dornier Superwal
Motoryacht Gem under construction (photo). Side, decks, photos of interior, engine room
Bomb and underwater defence comparison of Royal Sovereign, Repulse, Renown, Hood
M/S Leverkusen - side, decks, cuts, photo, stability calc, interior photos, engineering plans and photos
US River Screw Tugs - side, deck
Yet another Dornier Wal photo
Davit and lifeboat design recommendations on a conference
Potash loading arrangements at Antwerpen - sketches, photos
Passenger-cargo steamer Albertville - side, decks

Hey

Not from the first look. These yearbooks discuss mainly the ships laid down, built, launched that year...

Anything on a WW1 steamer Cosika/Corsica used by Germany in Operation Albion in 1917?

I understand. The reason why I ask is that she's still around: only these days she is a stationary hulk (well-maintained) housing the student's sailing club that I was a member of in my college days. Spent many a night at the bar in that little ship.