The Ship Model Forum

Hi, 109 (sorry do not know your name :smallsmile: )

Thank you for this feedback. I will probably stand with UHU which I am already accustomed to and forget about superglue for a while but will save your information to my files for the time when I encounter Loctite stand - I like testing new products :thumbs_up_1: :wave_1:

Hi,

there is a flexible CA containing rubber particles from Loctite, Loctite 480.

This may be an alternative.

Bye! :wave_1:

Thank you Ron and Mike, I have a stock of UHU glue :heh: so I can build a fleet. A little more expensive here in Ukraine :heh: - 2 pounds (if recalculated into UK currency) for 60 ml tube but I can live with that. Great I can use it not only for static models but for much desired future RC projects :thumbs_up_1: :thumbs_up_1: :thumbs_up_1:

Yevgeniy

Hi, I've successfully plated hulls with litho plate. I think it is excellent for that purpose. But, and a big but, I do not use glues that instantly bond things in place. I much prefer a glue with a bit of workability. Having said that as my models are glass case rather than working, I don't need a glue that's waterproof. The glue I've always used for sticking the litho is UHU. It gives that bit of flexibility to make sure the "plate" is exactly where it should be. Also any excess glue can be easily squeezed out, made into a ball and removed cleanly, so no glue where you don't want it.
Hope that helps and good luck.
Mike Reading

Thats the stuff, when painted its very water proof, this is the 125ml tube for �1-00 in the U/K :heh: :heh: :thumbs_up_1: :thumbs_up_1:

ARH, thank you for feedback :thumbs_up_1:

I will use contact glue for the hull but will try CA for simulating metal deck (I know some guys done that and want to try).

Question for future desired project: you build RC models - which contact glue (brand, type) you use so that it is water-resistant?

I used UHU (in tube) but it is not water-resistant afaik.
http://www.google.com.ua/imgres?imgurl=http://www.londongraphics.co.uk/acatalog/glue-uhu.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.londongraphics.co.uk/acatalog/Online_Catalogue_Glues_298.html&h=122&w=175&sz=15&tbnid=Hd5enKnJbXeG_M:&tbnh=70&tbnw=100&prev=/images%3Fq%3DUHU%2Bglue&zoom=1&q=UHU+glue&hl=uk&usg=__GdVSHJxsrtnMO5Nno86MEgYYghU=&sa=X&ei=yoE9Tbz2DIeWswao3_3zBg&ved=0CDQQ9QEwBw

Sincerely,

Yevgeniy

Never had a problem with the platting on IRON DUKE, MOFFITT or DUANE, once its on it stays there, I clean the litho with a cloth with a small amount of terpentine on, works well.

Cyno is a little to brittle for me, if the hull flexes the contact edhesive will flex and not come loose. :heh: :heh: :thumbs_up_1: :thumbs_up_1: :wave_1: :wave_1:

Hi Dave,

I also thought of impact adhesive but thought CA would give more strength. I have good experience with impact adhesive - the only problem is when you attach two pieces you can not move them as the glue grasps the pieces immeduately. Have to be very accurate with positioning the plates.

Spreading glue over the whole plate also seems to me a better approach.

Thank you for feedback - sometimes one needs just a little encouragement and confirming his ideas or correcting them to move forward :thumbs_up_1: :wave_1:

Kind regards,

Yevgeniy

[quote="Yevgeniy"]Hi everyone,

I have read about plating hull (and other surfaces) with litho (or other sheet metal) using cyanoacrylate (in ARH thread and others) but never tried.

I want to try it on the hull of my V106 torpedoboot but do not have guts for it as it will be for the first time :heh: So I ask for little help with your advice:
1) Cyanoacrylate is normal CA glue (also called second-glue), right? (I know it is so but just to make sure)
2) For plating with litho which CA glue you use: liquid or in gel form? (you know same brand of glue can have various forms for it). I suspect - liquid one, right?>
3) Where you apply the glue - to the metal (litho) or to the other surface?
4) Most important for me: what shall be the area to apply glue on? Do you apply it only to the edge of a litho plate or to the whole plate area? I hesitate at this point very much - it is most important that a plate follows the shape of the surface underneath especially if I want for example plate the deck with litho (to imitate a metal deck of a torpedoboot) and there are no bumps and dents under a litho plate.
5) Finally also important, how you apply it (especially if glue is spread on the whole litho sheet). Depending on the form of CA glue (liquid or gel) there would be various approaches. I understand that it is utmost important to have an even 'layer' of glue otherwise it will build up and all the work on smoothing/sanding the hull will be in vain as plates will not follow the shape of the hull but will have bumps due to build-up CA glue. Do you use some kind of spatula (may be blade of a modeling knife) to spread the glue over the needed area?

So how you apply it and how you avoid bumps of CA glue underneath litho plate so that litho plate strictly follow the shape of the surface to be plated.

Your advice is very needed - I spend much work on my hull so I do not want to ruin it with bad plating work.

Sincerely,

Yevgeniy[/quote]

Hi Yevgeniy Yes I fix litho with CA but I would not advice its use for fixing litho hull plating . ARH uses an impact adhesive and experiences few difficulties seems to be a better avenue to go down . Application for me is using a small spatula and spreading the adhesive evenly over the entire surface , do some test pieces and just practice . Hope this helps
Dave Wooley

Hi everyone,

I have read about plating hull (and other surfaces) with litho (or other sheet metal) using cyanoacrylate (in ARH thread and others) but never tried.

I want to try it on the hull of my V106 torpedoboot but do not have guts for it as it will be for the first time :heh: So I ask for little help with your advice:
1) Cyanoacrylate is normal CA glue (also called second-glue), right? (I know it is so but just to make sure)
2) For plating with litho which CA glue you use: liquid or in gel form? (you know same brand of glue can have various forms for it). I suspect - liquid one, right?>
3) Where you apply the glue - to the metal (litho) or to the other surface?
4) Most important for me: what shall be the area to apply glue on? Do you apply it only to the edge of a litho plate or to the whole plate area? I hesitate at this point very much - it is most important that a plate follows the shape of the surface underneath especially if I want for example plate the deck with litho (to imitate a metal deck of a torpedoboot) and there are no bumps and dents under a litho plate.
5) Finally also important, how you apply it (especially if glue is spread on the whole litho sheet). Depending on the form of CA glue (liquid or gel) there would be various approaches. I understand that it is utmost important to have an even 'layer' of glue otherwise it will build up and all the work on smoothing/sanding the hull will be in vain as plates will not follow the shape of the hull but will have bumps due to build-up CA glue. Do you use some kind of spatula (may be blade of a modeling knife) to spread the glue over the needed area?

So how you apply it and how you avoid bumps of CA glue underneath litho plate so that litho plate strictly follow the shape of the surface to be plated.

Your advice is very needed - I spend much work on my hull so I do not want to ruin it with bad plating work.

Sincerely,

Yevgeniy