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PostPosted: Mon Apr 11, 2022 1:29 am 
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most impressive home printing!!!

ship looks very good !

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Great build and beautiful example of perseverance! :thumbs_up_1: :thumbs_up_1:

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Thank you gents, for your kind words.

I always intended to make the hammocks exposed as that's how the ship appears in every painting and most photos.
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File comment: Same ship, different times
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The 1856 painting of the ship at Naples is the one I'm basing the model on.
I was considering making some hammocks in Skulpty, making a rubber mold from that, and casting them in resin. 3D printing not only gets the end result, but I 3D modeled them hollow to save resin, make them cure better, make them lighter, and the whole thing is cheaper in terms of resin and effort, plus I can easily alter the file if need be.
Here's all 200 hammocks mostly in groups of 9.
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File comment: A battalion of hammocks
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File comment: The hammocks are on "trays" of 9 hammocks each. All hollow to save resin/money and weight.
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File comment: About half the hammocks printed, with a quick coat of "canvas" (white with some tan) airbrushed on.
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Some of the bullseyes printed before got attached to the bobstays, and put back on the boat with temporary lanyards.
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File comment: Bobstays with 3D printed bullseyes
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I altered the oar model a little and took a shot at printing 45 at once. I didn't leave enough space between them and the supports got fused to the oars in a few places. It's been difficult to dig them out, but I'm managed 27 usable ones so far.
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File comment: The Borg Cube of oars
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I printed a new wheel to replace the too-fragile one I bought, but I liked the wooded pedestal I made for the old one better. So I sawed off the resin pedestals. Now the wheel will spin again, so I'm reverting back to plan A and connecting the ropes to the rudder servo so the wheel will spin when the rudder moves.
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File comment: Reverting back to the wheel's wooden pedestal
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The new skylight sashes and the wheel all got painted. The skylight sashes are glazed with a couple of microscope slides.
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File comment: Skylight and wheel got painted
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File comment: The skylight has a couple of microscope slides for glass and opens for access to the main power switch.
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The gun circles (rails on the deck for the pivot guns to slide on) were hand cut from sheet styrene and were too sloppy, too wide, and too thin. I modeled new ones using the 3D model of the gun as a reference for size and proportion. These got printed in one go, but unlike the oars, I left more space between things so the supports would stick to the parts.
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File comment: New gun circles were modeled using the 3D model for the guns as a reference to make them more accurate; and printed all in one go.
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I just replaced the LCD screen on the printed a week or two ago when it went bad. After that I found there was an upgrade for my printer available that would reduce print time by as much as half, so I ordered that. While printing trays of hammocks two at a time (all that will fit on the plate) the vat got a small leak and stuck to the LCD. Before I realized what was happening, I'd torn off the ribbon connector. The upgrade screen hasn't come in yet, so no printing's been happening for a few days.

In the meantime I've been working on the 3D model of the 2nd cutter (which stacks on the 1st cutter on the main hatch). If I can get that to work, I can alter the file to also make the two quarter-boats (same boat but a little smaller) and the double-ended stern boat (whale boat).

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PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2022 9:38 pm 
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File comment: Redid the skylight again so it'll close better and move the bars into the sash instead of sitting on it
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File comment: Made 4 sets of bitts as shown in her 1884 deck plan and earliest photos
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File comment: Bitts
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File comment: Studding sail irons for the ends of the yards 3D printed
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File comment: An idea of where it will live
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PostPosted: Fri May 27, 2022 1:56 am 
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increasingly excellent 3-D printed parts; makes all very intricate now!

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 06, 2022 6:04 pm 
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As of the 6th of June...
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File comment: More elaborate deck circles printed
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File comment: Bow deck circles painted Steel
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File comment: Stern deck circles painted Steel
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File comment: Top rails made up, not permanently installed yet
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File comment: printed gratings
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File comment: Gratings placed in the companionway hatches at the capstan, and the bitts located and glued in place.
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File comment: When the brass square-stock came in, the outboard stuns'l boom irons got installed and painted.
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File comment: Yards with stuns'l booms
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File comment: Finally got some Olive paint that didn't need a higher credit score to get, and airbrushed the pivot gun carriages
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File comment: Using Testors Flat Steel to pick out the gun's iron work
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 16, 2022 9:54 pm 
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The parts of the model that make it a warship - the pivot guns all painted.
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File comment: Bow pivot gun
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without paint, for reference
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File comment: Pivot gun just printed
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 10, 2022 12:28 pm 
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Shifted work to another model trying to get it's controls in order. But Constellation did get some work done...

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File comment: a pit of paint on some printed parts
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File comment: Connected to steering wheel to the rudder servo
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File comment: Pin rails installed at the base of the fore and main masts
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File comment: Futtock bands installed, and all brass blackened, even if will be painted. Holes in tops for topmast shrouds drilled.
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File comment: Gluing down starboard side hammocks
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File comment: Seam between hammock pieces and bulwark covered with a strip of basswood. Still 3/4 of the rails to do like this.
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File comment: Need to get these fellows painted or I'll start referring to them as The Shadows
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 23, 2022 1:12 am 
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Jawdroppingly awesome. Wow ...

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A bit of research nailed down that the ship was rigged with rigging-screws (turnbubkles) from the start (1855), and didn't get deadeyes-and-lanyards until nearly 1914.
The red arrows are the rubbing boards I was looking for when I realized this 1856 portrait of the ship showed she didn't have deadeyes-and-lanyards.
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File comment: Constellation at Naples 1856 by deSimone
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Finding good images or specs on these things is hard, but going with the best photo I could find, I came up with...
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File comment: Constellation's rigging-screws c.1884 and 3D model on the right
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Obviously, you won't find these things, especially in 1:36 scale, at any vendor, and I couldn't even find left-handed taps and dies (or steel screws and nuts to use as taps and dies) to make a functional version with. Having had good luck with 3D printed parts in a somewhat "structural" use, I opted to model and print them. I saw 3D printing used to cast jewelry, and looked into that with the idea of having solid, non-functional ones in brass, but that's not looking like something I can afford to do, or have done.

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File comment: Two rigging-screws in place to test
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After adjusting the 3D model, 45 more were printed...


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File comment: 3D printed rigging-screws
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very very good indeed--the 3-D prints really enhance the look

I was most impressed with the beautiful tracks... :thumbs_up_1: :thumbs_up_1:

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 22, 2023 12:56 am 
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As 3D printing things for the models was going pretty well, I decided to also print the remaining boats. I had already built the launch and 1st cutter, and planned to build the 2nd cutter next, in the same way, but began a 3D model back in 2020.
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File comment: Ship's launch and 1st cutter in wood with some 3D printed parts added.
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File comment: 3D wire-frame for 2nd cutter started in 2020 and forgotten.
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Only the launch is "carvel planked" while all the rest are "clinker" or "lap-strake" with over lapping planks like house siding. That's much more tedious in 3D modeling than a smooth-hulled boat. Eventually I got something I could live with.
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File comment: Tossed all but the keel and started over, till it was finally "planked."
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Then adding details, adjusting what seemed like everything all the time, and every one of 25 ribs.
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File comment: Seats and a grating foredeck
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File comment: Lots of adjustments and all the ribs in
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Finally it was ready to be printed
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File comment: Finally ready to print
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It was made in two parts so it would fit in the printer, and the parts had to be arranged and written to the STL file, for slicing.
The slicing software said it would weight 29.9 grams (1.6 ounces), use $1.05 worth of resin, and take 4h 50m 57s to print.
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File comment: In two parts to fit in the printer
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To the printer it went...
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File comment: Almost half printed
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File comment: Printing complete
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After bonding the two parts together, the seam will need some clean up with files and sanding, then it'll get primed, painted, and a UV resistant clear coat. Then it'll be placed on the 1st cutter, after I make some boat chocks.
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File comment: sitting where it will live, stacked on the 1st cutter.
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Over-all, the whole thing leans toward being too thin, but it's usable for me. I was going to share the STL on Thingiverse, but most folks that downloaded it would probably want to scale it down to one of the more common kit scales , and most of the surfaces would become membranes if not disappear entirely.

This expectation and experience is going into the 3D models of the remaining boats. Beside being able to scale them down, they need to be thicker/stronger, because they'll hang from davits out-board, which gives them a higher chance of being damaged in handling and operation.

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 Post subject: 3D Printed Quarter Boat
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Once the 2nd cutter was printed, I focused more on the quarter boats. It's one 3D model, but two of them get printed to eventually hang on davits on the aft quarters of the ship.
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File comment: x-ray view of quarter-boat in progress
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File comment: 3D model of quarter-boat
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These boats look very much like the cutters, but are a little longer, not as tall, with narrower sterns. At 1:36 scale, they're about 8-7/8th inches long (22.5cm). All the boats will be too long to print in one piece, and are made in halves, but both quarter-boats can be printed at once with room to spare.
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File comment: In the slicer; done in halves to fit in the printer's available volume.
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Printing took about 5-1/2 hours.
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File comment: Printed and washed
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File comment: Two quarter-boats and the 2nd cutter
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Here's the boats sitting about where they'll live on the main model
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File comment: Where the boats go on the main model
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 Post subject: 3D printed Whale Boat
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I started on the 3D model of the whale-boat before the quarter boats were done, and it was complete and printed overnight on the 7th. That's the last boat for Constellation.
Since then, it's been filling, filing, sanding, and repeat, to make the seams on all the boats go away before I prime and paint them.

I realize these model's are "low-poly" but they fit in with the level of detail of the over-all model, and it's not like I'm trying to sell them. I was going to post them on Thingiverse, but most folks that would want them would want to scale them down to a more common modeling scale; like 1:85 which is what that abomination Artesania Latina pukes out claims to be. Anyway, scaled down, I doubt these models could survive the print process, so I'm not going to inflict them on anybody.


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File comment: The fish skeleton phase of construction
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File comment: Inner planking surface made, outer surface in progress
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File comment: 3D model completed
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File comment: The model set-up for printing in the slicer
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File comment: Whale boat printed
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File comment: Both halves next to each other
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File comment: All Constellation's the 3D printed boats together
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