A 20 dollar 1/350 BB was a project I could not refuse, and while I had no interest in a 1941 Arizona, a 1944 Pennsylvania was a ship I wanted to build.
References were Friedman's U.S. Battleships (page 371 has an A. Raven drawing of a 1945 BB-38, WATCH OUT the top and side views are a different scale!!???) and Smith's Keystone Battlewagon which has a good Chesley 1/500 side view rendering of a 1945 BB-38 and some very useful pic's. Also used were pictures at SN of the never produced ?? ISW resin kit (I felt no guilt, I am a GOOD customer), a long ago post by someone whose name I did not record (thank you) to mount the barrels on the back face of the turret rather than the slots to get the correct length. In 2003 Jon Warneke posted on SN a list of conversion items which totaled 37, this ended up less useful than I thought it would be because I ended up redoing everything. This project really is a scratch build.
Major modifications to plastic parts were:
Hull
1 - Remove all deck detail
2 - drill out and fill over 200 portholes
3 - Raise the waterline
Funnel - Sand down searchlight boss to funnel profile, open stack, add incinerator exhaust pipe.
Forward superstructure support - remove conning tower, narrow rear searchlight projections and deck between searchlight and flag bag to clear 5"-38 gun house.
Fighting top - butcher the first story of the three story structure.
Turret - mount guns on back face of turret
So far this has been nothing but fun, it stands a good chance of being a reasonable facsimile of BB-38 - 1944.
Jim
1/350 USS Arizona conversion to USS Pennsylvania 1944
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1/350 USS Arizona conversion to USS Pennsylvania 1944
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- The next two photos show most of the conversion roughed out
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- As you can see from the first photo, this conversion requires MAJOR
surgery, I think it qualifies as a scratch build! The fact that the initial
investment was so small released any inhibitions about chopping away.
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Re: Converting the Banner 1/350 Arizona to a 1944 Pennsylvan
Well, that's what it's all about, isn't it? And, may I say it will more than a "reasonable facsimile of BB-38"!! Great work, as usual, Jim!! Keep those pictures going - this is very inspiring stuff.JimRussell wrote:So far this has been nothing but fun, it stands a good chance of being a reasonable facsimile of BB-38 - 1944.
Jim
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Hitting the homestretch, most everything is made and primed.
I do have a problem, I am contemplating heresy. The photo below was taken at the time I am modeling.
The ship is TOO light for 5-N!!
The 5-N Idaho in front is much darker. Before a comment about picture quality, notice that the bow ensign and crewman's' pants are showing as a very dark blue.
Right now I plan to use 5-O (the picture color is between 5-O and 5-H).
Jim
I do have a problem, I am contemplating heresy. The photo below was taken at the time I am modeling.
The ship is TOO light for 5-N!!
The 5-N Idaho in front is much darker. Before a comment about picture quality, notice that the bow ensign and crewman's' pants are showing as a very dark blue.
Right now I plan to use 5-O (the picture color is between 5-O and 5-H).
Jim
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You should keep in mind two things.
One is how long ship was on the sea, when she was last time repainted before entering drydock shown on the photo. It is know that especially dark colors were quickly fading off under conditions of the Pacific Ocean (living in Singapore now I have some idea about it
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Second issue is color film properties used at this time. They were far from color reproduction of contemporary photo films.
One more thing - on this photo USS Pennsylvania is in heavy sunlight - colors must be washed. Sailors trouser are in some shadow, or if not they are "porous" and less light scattering than flat areas of the ship.
In my opinion you should stay with 5-N, maybe bit lighten up if you want show the ship exacly as in the dock.
One is how long ship was on the sea, when she was last time repainted before entering drydock shown on the photo. It is know that especially dark colors were quickly fading off under conditions of the Pacific Ocean (living in Singapore now I have some idea about it
).Second issue is color film properties used at this time. They were far from color reproduction of contemporary photo films.
One more thing - on this photo USS Pennsylvania is in heavy sunlight - colors must be washed. Sailors trouser are in some shadow, or if not they are "porous" and less light scattering than flat areas of the ship.
In my opinion you should stay with 5-N, maybe bit lighten up if you want show the ship exacly as in the dock.
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Done
Some large pic's
http://warshipmodels.com/~users/JimRussell/MVC-093F.JPG
http://warshipmodels.com/~users/JimRussell/MVC-096F.JPG
Some variations of 'The Standard Type", late 1944
http://warshipmodels.com/~users/JimRussell/MVC-098F.JPG
http://warshipmodels.com/~users/JimRussell/MVC-099F.JPG
BHB-38 takes her place at the end of (5/6 correct) The Line
This project took all of 2007, but I am happy with it.
Jim
Some large pic's
http://warshipmodels.com/~users/JimRussell/MVC-093F.JPG
http://warshipmodels.com/~users/JimRussell/MVC-096F.JPG
Some variations of 'The Standard Type", late 1944
http://warshipmodels.com/~users/JimRussell/MVC-098F.JPG
http://warshipmodels.com/~users/JimRussell/MVC-099F.JPG
BHB-38 takes her place at the end of (5/6 correct) The Line
This project took all of 2007, but I am happy with it.
Jim
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Really nice work, Jim. Would love to see more pictures of all those ships in the last picture together.
Edit: Ah....I got the time to click on the links, and SAW the pics of the BB's together. Now, if I had done that the 1st time....
Edit: Ah....I got the time to click on the links, and SAW the pics of the BB's together. Now, if I had done that the 1st time....
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The ship was painted 5-O everywhere. After the matte coat a Prussian blue/black acrylic wash was given to the wood decks.
The truest colors are seen in the sidewalk shot. Pennsylvania looks blue (as it is, not the almost olive I seem to get in the close-ups) with the Idaho in front of it a 5-N measure 21.
I like the look - it matches the dry dock photo and gives some variety to the fleet.
Jim
The ship was painted 5-O everywhere. After the matte coat a Prussian blue/black acrylic wash was given to the wood decks.
The truest colors are seen in the sidewalk shot. Pennsylvania looks blue (as it is, not the almost olive I seem to get in the close-ups) with the Idaho in front of it a 5-N measure 21.
I like the look - it matches the dry dock photo and gives some variety to the fleet.
Jim
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Looks GREAT!!!!
I was worried while looking at the in progress photos, those nails were WAAAAAAYYYY overscale!
You have a project you can be proud of!
Ric
I was worried while looking at the in progress photos, those nails were WAAAAAAYYYY overscale!
You have a project you can be proud of!
Ric
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