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PostPosted: Sun Sep 18, 2022 1:29 pm 
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movie was not that well researched as in using the wrong class of ship in the wrong ocean & using weapons(40mm Bofors) before they were even put on ships.
http://www.navsource.org/archives/05/661.htm
http://www.navweaps.com/Weapons/WNUS_4c ... Use_by_USA
https://www.historyvshollywood.com/reelfaces/greyhound/


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 18, 2022 3:46 pm 
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As I have mentioned before Mr DP, forum troll, is not welcome posting on my threads and his persistence in doing so is proof of Troll Status. He would be more productive in showing his own Scratch Built project to which others could comment.

Ability and respect is garnered by good works produced.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 18, 2022 7:40 pm 
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I've shown you the links before so not my fault you did not comment on them. will do it 1 more time to see what happens.
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viewtopic.php?f=59&t=165137


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 18, 2022 7:41 pm 
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Getting ready to add an array of keel blocks, 3D printed, a trial effort! I don't have the actual keel block layout, so a little artistic license here.

Whitehurst in 1944 before sinking her sub and taking a Kamikaze off Okinawa.


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 18, 2022 8:08 pm 
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Tom,

Looks very nice, indeed! You've done a whale of a job on such a little model - the detail is quite stunning and really brings out how badly some of these 1/700 scale kits really are - IMHO, they all suck!!! Your detailed parts are far superior!

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USS STODDARD (DD-566) 66-68 1:144, USS-LSM/R-194 1:144
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USS NEW JERSEY (BB-62) 67-69 1:200
USN Sloop/Ship PEACOCK (1813) 1:48
ROYAL CAROLINE (1748) 1:47
AVS (1768) 1:48


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 18, 2022 11:26 pm 
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Hank:

Thanks, the 1:700 are much smaller and rely a lot on PE. I like to as much as possible rely on my scratch constructions. I was reasonably happy with what I was able to do in this relatively small scale and and am still super impressed by Jim Bauman and some of the other long time worker in these smaller scales. I was surprised that I was able to pull off a reasonable printed inclined ladder.

Still no anchor chains!

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Added dry docking blocking, sitting for now in the hall case (full of junk).

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 20, 2022 8:19 pm 
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Tom,

Excellent addition to your case - I think the keel blocks are perfect for that model. Outstanding Job!!!

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Builder's yard:
USS STODDARD (DD-566) 66-68 1:144, USS-LSM/R-194 1:144
Finished:
USS NEW JERSEY (BB-62) 67-69 1:200
USN Sloop/Ship PEACOCK (1813) 1:48
ROYAL CAROLINE (1748) 1:47
AVS (1768) 1:48


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 21, 2022 2:43 am 
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Thanks Hank!

Fun photo project, a first attempt at this smallish scale. A lot of fun and different challenges than in larger scales. Dunno how long till I get involve in a larger mode and at one scale. I like the 1:144 as it isn't too huge, 1:120 is a great modeling scale and a 306' ship wouldn't be too huge in 1:100. How strange to interpret a ship in both 1:500 ish and 1;100.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2022 9:57 pm 
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Under the "Wah Hail" and "go for the Zeitgeist" principal, slicing a 1:144 bow section to print, looks like I can get 9+ inches of printing length. As my program doesn't hollow well, I used the Chitubox feature. Also changed the layer from .035 to .050mm, which saves about 10 hours of printing time. Time will tell! Should be able to do the hull in three sections if this works.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2022 10:14 pm 
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Tom,

So, you've moved from the Concept Dept. to the Design Dept. at Falley Shipbuilding & Drydock - just in time for a fall ship construction!!! :thumbs_up_1:

I guess that's an advantage of having a larger printer - I'll be interested in seeing these sections as they are printed.

Hank

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Builder's yard:
USS STODDARD (DD-566) 66-68 1:144, USS-LSM/R-194 1:144
Finished:
USS NEW JERSEY (BB-62) 67-69 1:200
USN Sloop/Ship PEACOCK (1813) 1:48
ROYAL CAROLINE (1748) 1:47
AVS (1768) 1:48


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2022 1:55 am 
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Good thing I checked early on, the item wasn't printing, apparently either not sticking to the platen or the supports broke. Futz with it tomorrow. If they print I could do all three hull sections at once. May just print the sections at the break right on the platen.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2022 8:32 pm 
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Printing away, though not enough resin to do the third hull section. Hull flat at the section break right on the platen and adhering well. About 7 inches of hull printed so far, with bilge keels attached. I scooped out the hull for the DMS with fairly crude methods. For this one I used the hollow function of Chitubox with 2.5 mm walls.

so will see what I get Manyana.

Adios! Tom


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 24, 2022 11:13 am 
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The mid and aft hull sections printed fine, (1:144) looking a bit like two Australian Fruit Bats, asleep, hanging from the platen. I could have printed all three hull sections at once if I had had enough resin. Awaiting a new FEP and some more resin. It is possible to remove the cover mid print and add resin, as the vat will only hold so much. So I get to clean and cure these and see how well they join. I did print the bilge keels which will help with alignment (I hope). They look much better than anything I could attach separately. So far, not having removed them, printing the part end sections directly on the platen worked well and insures a dead flat section for joining.

As to scales? Since I don't use commercial parts, pretty much up to me. I did like the 1:120 that I used for the APA but I can do much of that in 1:144 and large models start taking up a lot of space.

In doing the hull lines, the most useful thing was listing the exact frame locations plus or minus some inches for each section profile. So I was able to space them exactly by making a chart and converting it to MM along the hull from the FP. My primitive program does not allow a mirroring so I do this in Chitubox and place the pieces together.

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 24, 2022 12:15 pm 
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1 end of the mid hull section won't have a dead flat end as not sitting on the platen but a little glue & putty when gluing the non platen end to another section should disappear the seam.


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 24, 2022 12:30 pm 
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Whatever DP said, he is not welcome here, suggested he busy himself with a new project of his own.


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 24, 2022 1:33 pm 
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I am busy working on cleaning up over 100 & some odd BOGPs. I have no DE plans that have the cable & electrical box drawings you are looking for for your DE model.


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What mid and aft hull sections look like on the platen. Each section is about 9 1/2 inches long. All three sections could be printed in one go.

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 24, 2022 3:08 pm 
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Tom,

Your hull sections are looking really good! I think doing them direct on the build platform is the key to a flat surface for joining. I printed my T-3 half sections in similar fashion only the interior face was on the platform.

Glad this is working out on 1st edition.

Hank

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Builder's yard:
USS STODDARD (DD-566) 66-68 1:144, USS-LSM/R-194 1:144
Finished:
USS NEW JERSEY (BB-62) 67-69 1:200
USN Sloop/Ship PEACOCK (1813) 1:48
ROYAL CAROLINE (1748) 1:47
AVS (1768) 1:48


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A disadvantage of printing the hull sections on the platen is a small rim is left, easy enough to trim off, on other parts more debatable. For the aft 20 mm tub which I just printed, one on the platen and one on small supports, I adjudge the one on supports a little better as the platen one has a small rim at the bottom. I expect that this could be minimized with an adjustment of the bottom layer exposures. The drop rungs on the ladders print better with a support, not bad on three rungs on a tub, perhaps more inconvenient with a long ladder.

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