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PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2023 5:50 am 
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OK, then memory for that green was not so good ... the museum in Paris now has been closed for quite a few years and I do not pictures of ships from that period.

I didn't know that Revell 90 'silver grey' was actually so silvery, that's why I asked - I am not familiar with Revell paints.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2023 7:45 am 
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It's brighter than the metallic silver greys I have. :cool_1:

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2023 9:06 am 
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Lorraine of the Musée de la Marine in Paris:

The turrets should be black, the same mistake as on the Provence in the Toulon museum. The Paravane chains at the front were installed later than the period shown. I think that the 1953 model of the Provence in the Toulon museum was probably the inspiration for the model maker. No internet at the time for the one in Paris or no one interested by internet for the one in the Toulon museum which is much more recent according to my information.

https://mnm.webmuseo.com/ws/musee-natio ... cord/31426

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It can be noticed that the battleship Provence had portholes in the superstructures and not scuttles as the Bretagne, and as on the different plans.

Toulon Marine museum: René Cooman. Provence.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2023 9:18 am 
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It's always good to add blocks for motivation, it gives the impression that things are moving forward!

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2023 10:30 am 
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I don't remember, did you discuss further up, why the turrets had been painted black at that time? It must have been pretty hot in them in summer, particularly in the Mediterranean.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2023 12:18 pm 
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I have to say that those models ( very large! ) in both Paris and Toulon do look pretty sharp=
=especially the one made in 1953...
and it appears to have been looked after quite well -- as it still looks sharp and un-cracked.

Your model Pascal is progressing well also-- the searchlights look beautiful and the whole ship will be a finely detailed gemstone by the end-- but still a lot of work and printing eh!

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 20, 2023 3:06 am 
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wefalck wrote:
I don't remember, did you discuss further up, why the turrets had been painted black at that time? It must have been pretty hot in them in summer, particularly in the Mediterranean.


That’s was not painted, later yes, in grey.

I don’t know the reasons:

« From 1915 onwards, i.e. during the test period, the steel of the 340 turrets and their guns was stripped and treated with a "grease plug" to prevent corrosion. These "grease plugs" contained a mixture of grease and lampblack, which gave the main artillery turrets the shiny black color that can be seen in photos from that period.« 

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 20, 2023 3:20 am 
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Thanks Jim, yes, it’s a long way..

JIM BAUMANN wrote:
I have to say that those models ( very large! ) in both Paris and Toulon do look pretty sharp=
=especially the one made in 1953...
and it appears to have been looked after quite well -- as it still looks sharp and un-cracked.

Your model Pascal is progressing well also-- the searchlights look beautiful and the whole ship will be a finely detailed gemstone by the end-- but still a lot of work and printing eh!

:thumbs_up_1: :thumbs_up_1: :thumbs_up_1:

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 22, 2023 7:53 am 
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Printing a crane, the rear stack and a lot of small parts, my parts box is starting to be full...

The crane hook is well printed with its very thin chain, it's very fragile.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 23, 2023 6:48 am 
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Small advances on Deck 2 and 3, gluing of the many elements of Deck 2 that are directly under Deck 3.

The decks are still not glued together.

The paint has been applied except for the back of deck 3 which will be grey H 96 like the other decks in grey.

I was wondering if the red linoleum deck was kept until 1940 through the various remodels of the building?

I'm waiting to glue the lower crown holding the cranes, I'll do it once the decks are glued so they are perfectly straight.

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