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She is becoming really a nice Pantserdeckschepen!

But there is also the usual message for the scratch builder: HP Models announced kits of two ships of this class: Gelderland and Nordbrabant. They also announced the AA battery version of Gelderland, Niobe. Also the coast defence ships/armoured cruisers (Pantserschepen) Jacob van Heemskerck (also as AA German battery Undine), Hertog Hendrik (also as AA battery Ariadne) and De Ruyter are announced. Good news for fans of Dutch ships.

But scratch building is the crown of ship modelling!

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Very nice Michel!

Dino

Right now I don't know wether to hate or to love HP Models.

That's right!

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If all else fails, a complete pig-headed refusal to see facts in the face will see us through. - General Melchett

Superb scratch Michel



Jef

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Current 1/700 WL
HMS Repulse

Finally, some work on the foredeck. Chain, railing, anchors, anchor hoists. This area still needs: gilded crest, anchor chains, pole with flag, some portholes perhaps...

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If all else fails, a complete pig-headed refusal to see facts in the face will see us through. - General Melchett

Pretty little vessel, I look forward to the final touches!

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"Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful." Seneca, 1st century AD

Hr.Ms. Holland is now 99% complete. Some paint touch-ups remain to be done. Pictures taken while anti-fouling red is still wet!


Close-up of stern...

...and bow.

Mayor gripes about this model:
Hull is not smooth enough. No decent consistent portholes. Revell White leaves rough texture. Masts are not in a historically correct configuration. (there never were any fighting tops, only in design stage). Very rough feel overall.
But hey, it's my first cruiser-sized scratchbuild - and I love the old tub anyway!

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If all else fails, a complete pig-headed refusal to see facts in the face will see us through. - General Melchett

Michel, I think you can be happy,

The subject is rare and very nice.
The overall look is good, and white isn't so easy to be used
The amount of small details add a lot of realism

Just a bit of rigging, some figures and a good water base and the beauty will be at home!

Dino

I agree with Dino. I really like the job you've made of this and it's been interesting to follow it.

Cheers,

Rob

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IPMS Fine Waterline Special Interest Group

Yes she certainly looks good. You shouldn't be disappointed, the ship is much smaller than on the pictures I guess and you always see roughness and errors on pictures, yet the real model certainly looks very good for its size. A first try can never be perfect as you know! Excellent job, I love those rare subjects of yours!

Indeed Revell white leaves a pretty rough surface. I've noticed that on my Queen Mary II and Excel...

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The merchant shipyard

I agree, it came out looking nice. I find that digital pics can really scare the heck out of you.

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Owner & Administrator
ModelWarships.com

Michel
I really like it and as Dino says, white is not an easy colour to use so don't be hard on yourself

Mike

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Starling Models

http://www.starling-models.co.uk

Hey guys, thanks for the replies. I really wasn't bashing myself or anything, as I said I'm very fond of how she turned out to be. I was just listing the things I would do better next time (see the USS San Fransisco - I easily did four times as much sanding and filling on the hull). Perhaps I said it wrong.

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If all else fails, a complete pig-headed refusal to see facts in the face will see us through. - General Melchett

I've submitted her to the gallery! That means the end for this scratchbuilding thread, which will now happily drop down the list into the archives.

Thanks for all the support!

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If all else fails, a complete pig-headed refusal to see facts in the face will see us through. - General Melchett

Hi Michel,

I found this old thread, and I'm fascinated by Your skills and the subjects You chose to build. I very much enjoyed reading it!

could You please tell me a source for plans of Hr. Ms. Sumatra and Hr. Ms. Holland? i'm building at a very small scale, so every size is highly recommended!

Tanks a lot!

Christian

Hi Christian,

my apologies for not replying earlier: I might have missed your question entirely had I not browsed this forum beyond the first page! But thanks for your interest.

The plans for both the Hr.Ms. Holland and the Sumatra were found in the book mentioned in the build thread: "Nederlandsche Zeemacht, Pantserschepen, Pantserdekschepen, Monitors". They were quite basic but seemed to work well. Today - it's been six years already - I would do a better job, I hope. The Sumatra never went beyond that one photograph and was discarded.

Drop me an email/private message - use the button under this post - and I can get you some more info.

Cheers,

Michel

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If all else fails, a complete pig-headed refusal to see facts in the face will see us through. - General Melchett

Hi Michel,

seems as if I have to be more active on this forum - it won't let me use the communicationsystem, aaaarr.... could You please send me a short mail to my private adress couchkollaps (a) web.de, I'll answer asap.

Thanks for Your nice answer! To show You what I am planning (and to assure that all kinds of plans are highly appreciated) here's some sample photos - wargaming miniatures in 1/6000 scale:

Hoche:


Chaoyung:


Sachsen:


Have a good day!

Christian.