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Good points.

Speaking of handling large objects I noticed that some of the new airplanes have a display connected to cameras that show the pilot the entire airplane on the runway from a camera located high in the tail of the plane, and it also shows a rear view too!

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Went to get coffee.

…anyway…getting back to the subject of the story…haha

Just finished modeling the hump of the bridge house and gave the model an overall white base coat. Unfortunately my spray can went dead so it’s not complete coat. Actually that doesn’t matter for now, it’s even enough to spot small groves and put holes. After these are filled and sanded I can give the model a final spray.

Actually Jim, decal-ing the windows is a good idea, the double warping of all sides is going to be a lot of trouble getting the windows in a straight line. Luckily the ship has no sheer to worry about…but still.

I do intend to make the cargo hatches, hull doors and framing of the sport deck windows out of cardboard, this way it gives the model a bit of relief and authenticity as a “real” existing ship. I’m also planning to give the instrument deck on top of the wheelhouse real instruments, antenna’s and rigging of some kind, after all that’s why the deck is there and all that stuff couldn’t be streamlined or placed inside a streamline shell.

Beluga whale--that's the thing she reminds me of from ahead!

I use a lot of decal windows on my ships-as well as decals fro waterlines

have a look here:

viewtopic.php?f=4&t=148031

apropos Kalkala ( Neptune )

te ultimate streamlined ship that was neither terribly streamlined or indeed efficient or purposeful--other than to caprure the spirit of the age....

One of my favorite vessels-incredibly cool-- I have custom PE for her in 2 scales and she is just a wonderful looking ship--nicknamed the silver slug



the model in construction was by Vladimir Yabukov
( and can be found here in the scratchbuild forum! )

viewtopic.php?f=13&t=88554


meanwhile...

back to Onno's Geddes ship!

==> Onwards Onno!

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Ahoi Onno!

any new progress on this fine project?

Intrigued and excited!

JB

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IPMS UK SIG (special interest group) www.finewaterline.com

How cool is your model project, Onno! Ever since I first saw a picture of the Bel Geddes liner as a child I've been fascinated by it. Did you know you can download (for free!) a good quality scan of the whole of Bel Geddes' 1932 book Horizons, in which the liner (and many other projects) appear?
http://archive.org/details/horizons00geddrich

A variety of formats, including pdf and jpegs of each page:
https://ia600504.us.archive.org/16/items/horizons00geddrich/

Bel Geddes' scale drawings:
http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3834/9033774709_f973db086f_o.jpg
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7460/9033774123_f872fbaf62_o.jpg

Annoyingly, the plan views of each deck are a slightly larger scale than the profile view. Also, a narrow strip is missing from the middle, doubtless due to the fold in the book.

Note that in the text Bel Geddes refers to a length of 1,808 ft, a beam of 110 ft and a displacement of 70,000 tons. The length seems disproportionate to both the beam and displacement. Filling in the missing narrow portion alluded to above (by continuing the curve of the second funnel) indicates an overall length of around 1,100 ft. Allowing for a margin of error in measuring from a VDU screen, one wonders if the 1,808 ft quoted in the text should actually have been 1,088 ft, not far off 1,100 ft? Such a length certainly seems more commensurate with both the quoted beam and displacement.

Anyway, hope you've not abandoned your model, good luck!

Incidentally, trivia lovers, Norman Bel Geddes was the father of actress Barbara Bel Geddes, better known as Miss Ellie in Dallas! Not a lot of people know that...* **

*Actually, they probably do.
**To be said in a Michael Caine stylee.

EDIT: Just noticed that in the Popular Science article from April 1934 Onno included in his first post, the length is quoted as 1,088 ft, thus reinforcing my theory (above) that the 1,808 ft figure is a typo.

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Incidentally (again!), the bizarre WC Fields/Bob Hope comedy film The Big Broadcast of 1938 revolves around a race between two huge transatlantic liners, the SS Colossal (clearly based on the Normandie) and the SS Gigantic (clearly inspired by, but not closely modelled on, the Bel Geddes liner). Here are some screengrabs from the DVD:







And more as links so as not to clog up the thread:
http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3706/9036213962_98a9f35f93_o.jpg
http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5533/9036214158_e039564ebe_o.jpg
http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2821/9033991145_5584bbff31_o.jpg
http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3706/9036216534_3798f142a2_o.jpg
http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2886/9036216784_efbcc0a7a7_o.jpg
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7341/9033993019_93d6d6dfa4_o.jpg

And here's a treat - visual effects modelmakers building the miniature of SS Colossal!

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Super work Onno, look forward to the finished model.

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This project is fascinating. Norman Bel Geddes was an original, capable of coming up with some very spectacular ideas, to put it mildly.

In its endnotes the book Divided Highways (about the origins of the Interstate Highway system) by Tom Lewis tells a story of the elaborate war game Bel Geddes devised, and how he'd have guests over to play during regular Wednesday night sessions. The game pitted two fictional countries against each other, their armies and navies facing off on a 16-foot long table. Lewis states that when one player, an admiral (and it's not stated if this was an actual admiral or one for the game's purposes), lost eight ships under his command, Bel Geddes had him "court-martialed"; humiliated, he never came back.

BTW, Lewis adds that the "Bel" part in of his name was appropriated from his first wife, Helen Bel Sneider. "Norman Geddes" just wasn't dramatic enough.

Back to the project: Keep the updates coming! I'm enjoying this.

Jodie Peeler

Wonderful ship and model .... can't wait to see it finished!

'Bout time too ...... I never understood why the makers never fitted cameras looking back at the engines and the tail ...... I suppose someday they will.

Hi Onno ....... is she ready yet?