The Ship Model Forum

The Ship Modelers Source
It is currently Wed Sep 19, 2018 5:34 am

All times are UTC - 6 hours [ DST ]




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 108 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6  Next
Author Message
PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2018 7:07 am 
Offline

Joined: Tue Aug 29, 2017 7:11 pm
Posts: 86
Hi Will, your build is sure coming along nicely, that is the trouble with war ships all that detail, why I picked the ship I am modelling not so much detail, all the bow winches are covered, don't really need them , I will add them, there is one on the stern on the upper deck.

Keep an eye out on your email I have more update pics of my layout, started work on the spiral today.

Back to your destroyer, what is the large box you are building and what is it used for.

How clod does tit drop to where you live in NSW, here it has been 2 degrees, we did drop down to minus last week an 0 last, days are nice 24 degrees, westerlies haven't hit yet.

Any idea where I can 1/87 scale ship fitting from, after anchors mainly and winches .

Tony from very cold S/E QLD


Report this post
Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: Sat Jun 23, 2018 8:34 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sat Jan 14, 2017 4:51 pm
Posts: 84
Location: Hill End, NSW, Australia
Hey Tony,
I keep finding new photos and am then having to scrap parts already made. I had to scrap the two signal flag boxes on the wheel house deck because I found a photo of the Chook and they weren't actually there. I am having to change the upper bridge layout for the same reason, which is good because I do want to get it as close to what she was really like. I am thoroughly enjoying having to do the extra detail, and I don't care how long it takes - there is no final date!
.
Not sure what the box was for and I cant find out - all the deck plans I find don't tell me because they are all different. Oh well I know it was there and I am trying to match it.
Good luck with the railway - we have suspended building on ours as it is too cold out in the stables. It gets very cold, we are at nearly 900 metres but we love the cold with lots of fires and slow cooked meals.
.
Not sure about 1/87 scale fitting - I would try shapeways 3d printed parts, they make most fittings and can scale them to what ever you need. I was talking to a shapeways chap who is in New Zealand asking about anchors - he said he could scale them to whatever I needed and did some research without me asking and told me exactly the make and model of anchor my destroyer was fitted with which differed from ship to ship depending upon what was available. sozzap23 and hawkins751511 are the two chaps I have been dealing with.
.
Look forward to seeing the progress of your railway!
.
Cheers, Will


Report this post
Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2018 1:52 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sat Jan 14, 2017 4:51 pm
Posts: 84
Location: Hill End, NSW, Australia
Hello again,
I am having a crack at the funnels. As I said I am trying aluminium tubing. It is heavier than other materials but I hope the size and ballast needed will compensate for it. The rest of the superstructure ins't very high so here's hoping!
.
The rear one needs a little more rotating, I cut out a big piece of balsa and hand drilled the holes to push them through - they are under the deck. It seemed a good way to secure the tubing and will allow me to fit a smoke generator easily in the future. If anyone has any ideas or advice please let me know.
.
I have more 3D printed bits coming. I have two sets of double carley rafts, two twin lewis guns and the single 20mm Breda gun - very exciting,
cheers, Will


Attachments:
IMG_9909[1].JPG
IMG_9909[1].JPG [ 175.04 KiB | Viewed 700 times ]
Report this post
Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2018 6:40 am 
Offline

Joined: Tue Aug 29, 2017 7:11 pm
Posts: 86
HI Will, I had a look at Shapeways 3/D site, they had a lot of ship parts especially weapons for ship like you have on order saw those rafts, sent them an email to see if they will print out the winches and anchors in 1/87 scale, all I need is one winch and copy the rest, I need four at least, two anchor winches.

This is where the hobby gets expensive, there is a hobby show coming up in August not far from me will go and ask where I can get the parts in Australia.

ship building night tomorrow night get some more progress on my ship build, very cold here today 16 degrees wet as well, no progress on my layout.

Great idea using aluminium tubing for the funnels what I can't use for my model has a few smaller funnels with a closed in cover in the sides.

Coming along nicely looking forward to see more progress pics.

Tony from cold SE/QLD


Report this post
Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2018 6:46 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sat Jan 14, 2017 4:51 pm
Posts: 84
Location: Hill End, NSW, Australia
Thanks Tony,
try "Float a Boat", in Ringwood Victoria. Taskforce 72 put me onto them and I will be getting alot of goodies through them too,
cheers,
Will


Report this post
Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: Tue Jul 03, 2018 7:01 pm 
Offline

Joined: Tue Aug 29, 2017 7:11 pm
Posts: 86
Hi Will, how are you going with the cold weather, we have had good mild winter weather during the day, cooler days approaching us next week.

I found the link to Shapeways 1/87 scale section and they do a single tugboat winch, need as double winch will cost a bit more, ouch, haven't contacted them yet, being busy working on the layout and my ship build, progressing well, more pics on my post today.

Also work on my bridge project where the spit will sit , got some great ideas on using blue tarp as water and painting the ships wave washing and behind the ship , look good, doing that with the the back droops on the layout, save a bit of money in buying MDF board.

Keep warm Tony from S/E-QLD


Report this post
Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: Fri Jul 06, 2018 9:53 am 
Offline

Joined: Fri Dec 18, 2015 11:33 pm
Posts: 92
englishgunner wrote:
and the single 20mm Breda gun - very exciting,
cheers, Will


How'd the real one become part of the ship's armaments?

_________________
Current build logs -
1/72 110' Subchasers as Rum Runners
1/96 Japanese 'Steel Truck'
1/96 12cm pre-Dreadnaught deck gun
1/124 CS Privateer 'Beauregard'
1/124 CS Blockade Runners Pevensey & Ella Warley
1/192 scale whaler PEQUOD


Report this post
Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2018 7:54 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sat Jan 14, 2017 4:51 pm
Posts: 84
Location: Hill End, NSW, Australia
Hey Story,
I am not sure how or where they came by it. I only saw the added AA guns when I was looking at the V and W Class section of this Forum - fantastic. I will certainly be digging some more to find out.
.
My Carley rafts and twin Lewis guns have arrived. I have undercoated the rafts and put them on to see, prior to the final lighter coat. They have turned out really well, I am very happy with them, though they were REALLY expensive, but I think I am near the end of getting any 3D parts so I bit the bullet,
Cheers, Will


Attachments:
IMG_9972[1].JPG
IMG_9972[1].JPG [ 161.54 KiB | Viewed 519 times ]
IMG_9973[1].JPG
IMG_9973[1].JPG [ 211.76 KiB | Viewed 519 times ]
Report this post
Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 7:15 am 
Offline

Joined: Tue Aug 29, 2017 7:11 pm
Posts: 86
Hi will, wow, very nice indeed, the twin Lewis guns came up, no wonder you are happy some times it is worth it to bite the dist and get what you want in th end.

I have to con my wife to ordering the two anchors for my ship, I think I made the anchor recess to big, you will have to let know when I head over to my post to add the pics in question.

Ship ways do have a 1/87 scale section and the bloke said he can print from a pic, sadly I have to wait till the 23rd of July for the bloke I am in contact from the ships owners to get more plans and pics of the winches.

How are you copping with the cold, we have had 0 for a couple of morning, no need to mow the grass .

Bye from Tony.


Report this post
Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 6:22 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sat Jan 14, 2017 4:51 pm
Posts: 84
Location: Hill End, NSW, Australia
Thanks Tony,
we are going for a low of -6 this Saturday, good reason to stay tucked up in bed I think.
.
You are right, no need to mow the grass. Any grass we have is being eaten by the Kangaroos. There isn't much feed around. I had a local lady with three big males roos in her back yard. When she walked out one of them attacked her and scratched her hand. She had to retreat inside and she called me up. I drove up there in my police car and had a crack at them with a broom and managed to get them out and then had to chase them off with the police car, lights and sirens blaring. My daughter went out the back yard to put the ducks away and a big male had a go at her, very scary.
.
Enough about the angry native wildlife - I am putting the final coat on the rafts, they are coming up good, put a coat on the Lewis guns. Not sure what colour the guns were though - the barrels may be black, like the quad gun - will keep searching through photos.
.
Glad you found the right place to get your anchors - the wait will be worth it I am sure,
.
Cheers, Will


Attachments:
IMG_9991[1].JPG
IMG_9991[1].JPG [ 147.84 KiB | Viewed 472 times ]
IMG_9993[1].JPG
IMG_9993[1].JPG [ 138 KiB | Viewed 472 times ]
Report this post
Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 12:47 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon Nov 11, 2013 11:01 pm
Posts: 1126
Location: Detroit area
Methinks the Lewis guns themselves would be standard gun blue (gunmetal) with wooden stocks? The mounting brackets, as well as the mount itself, would be in the relevant camouflage paint, I reckon.

But that's just a scientific wild-ass guess (SWAG) on my part.

_________________
Sean Nash, ACG (aircraft camo gestapo)

On the ways:
1/200 Trumpeter HMS Nelson
1/700 Tamiya USS Yorktown CV-5

In the stash:
1/35 Italiari PT-109
1/35 Tamiya "Pibber" Patrol Boat
1/350 Trumpeter USS Yorktown CV-10


Report this post
Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 2:29 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sat Jan 14, 2017 4:51 pm
Posts: 84
Location: Hill End, NSW, Australia
Thanks Sean,
that's what I thought till I had a search on the net. It would seem the stock was indeed wood, but the metal was black. I saw a few photos of different stands as well and they appeared to be black as well. Thanks for your SWAG, keep them coming!
cheers, Will


Attachments:
Lewis.jpg
Lewis.jpg [ 39.01 KiB | Viewed 461 times ]
Report this post
Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2018 5:25 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sat Jan 14, 2017 4:51 pm
Posts: 84
Location: Hill End, NSW, Australia
Hello all,
ordered and received the 20mm Breda gun. I found some photographs of the Breda on other Scrap Iron ships and assume my Waterhen had the same sort of mount. I am trying to match and make it as similar as I can.
.
The annoying thing is that the barrel has a slight dip downward - its only minor but is giving me the poops - does anyone know of a way to correct the slight kink in the barrel without destroying or snapping it off - do I apply a bit heat or is that a recipe for disaster,
cheers, Will


Attachments:
IMG_0271[1].JPG
IMG_0271[1].JPG [ 102 KiB | Viewed 373 times ]
IMG_0272[1].JPG
IMG_0272[1].JPG [ 219.55 KiB | Viewed 373 times ]
IMG_0270[1].JPG
IMG_0270[1].JPG [ 152.33 KiB | Viewed 373 times ]
IMG_0273[1].JPG
IMG_0273[1].JPG [ 126.77 KiB | Viewed 373 times ]
IMG_0274[1].JPG
IMG_0274[1].JPG [ 161.75 KiB | Viewed 373 times ]
Report this post
Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: Fri Jul 27, 2018 4:28 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sat Jan 14, 2017 4:51 pm
Posts: 84
Location: Hill End, NSW, Australia
Hello again,
I received my Micro Mark rivet decals and threw them on a few gun shields and the air intake. My five year old son, Edmond helped, so we both made a mess of them, but had a great time together. I am sure we will get better. I am going to rivet everything that was on the ship, it is very subtle but you can make it out if you are looking for it.....
cheers, Will


Attachments:
IMG_0309[1].JPG
IMG_0309[1].JPG [ 224.15 KiB | Viewed 319 times ]
IMG_0310[1].JPG
IMG_0310[1].JPG [ 280.06 KiB | Viewed 319 times ]
IMG_0308[1].JPG
IMG_0308[1].JPG [ 84.84 KiB | Viewed 319 times ]
IMG_0312[1].JPG
IMG_0312[1].JPG [ 149.23 KiB | Viewed 319 times ]
Report this post
Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: Fri Jul 27, 2018 11:30 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Nov 22, 2006 4:42 pm
Posts: 311
Location: Lisbon, Portugal
englishgunner wrote:
The annoying thing is that the barrel has a slight dip downward - its only minor but is giving me the poops - does anyone know of a way to correct the slight kink in the barrel without destroying or snapping it off - do I apply a bit heat or is that a recipe for disaster,
cheers, Will


Hi Will
Cracking bult you have here...
Regarding your question with the Breda barrel... you can try and find this metal barrel:

https://www.hobbyeasy.com/en/data/wepko ... q7yfn.html

I have no commercial interest in the maker or seller - it was just a way to show you the set by Aber
This should solve your problem
Carry on
Rui

_________________
Ship Modelers of the World UNITE


Report this post
Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: Fri Jul 27, 2018 7:39 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sat Jan 14, 2017 4:51 pm
Posts: 84
Location: Hill End, NSW, Australia
Wow, thankyou Rui, that will definitely fix my drooping barrel, I tried your link and they said the seller was on vacation, so got one through Ebay,
cheers, Will


Report this post
Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: Thu Aug 02, 2018 1:36 pm 
Offline

Joined: Fri Dec 18, 2015 11:33 pm
Posts: 92
This project just becomes more and more epic with each post.

_________________
Current build logs -
1/72 110' Subchasers as Rum Runners
1/96 Japanese 'Steel Truck'
1/96 12cm pre-Dreadnaught deck gun
1/124 CS Privateer 'Beauregard'
1/124 CS Blockade Runners Pevensey & Ella Warley
1/192 scale whaler PEQUOD


Report this post
Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: Fri Aug 03, 2018 7:15 pm 
Offline

Joined: Tue Aug 29, 2017 7:11 pm
Posts: 86
Morning Will, coming along nicely with the added main gun, if I am guessing right the last pic of the last post with the pics, about the last pic the long boxes be for the round to be stored.

My build is coming together at long last, have finished cutting the window panel between the raised deck and knuckle line , was not an easy task at all,very hard glad it is out the way and last night finished gluing the last layer for the front , shape could of been better, not bad for a first attempt.

Is it warmer for you where you are this weekend, soon be able to get back to your layout build, I am working on my bridge, have built one section, three more to go, had to make a start, the paling were starting to twist, will send you an email with the pics of the rail deck finished. 28 degrees today. crazy

Keep warm Tony


Report this post
Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: Sun Aug 05, 2018 6:46 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sat Jan 14, 2017 4:51 pm
Posts: 84
Location: Hill End, NSW, Australia
Hello Tony,
good try but wrong! - the long boxes are the engine air intakes located in between the funnels. The projectiles were stored in single easily accessible racks around the gun and I am thinking the propellant was in wooden boxes nearby too. Still have to confirm that.
.
I have been a bad boy and ordered some stuff from Float a Boat in Victoria, Australia: props, shafts, A-frames, bollards, cleats, ladders, capstan, gratings. I want to start installing the internal gear so I can also workout what parts of the deck are needed for access.
.
Cheers, Will
Heavy rain, Roos are happy,


Report this post
Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2018 11:13 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon Nov 11, 2013 11:01 pm
Posts: 1126
Location: Detroit area
englishgunner wrote:
Hello Tony,
good try but wrong! - the long boxes are the engine air intakes located in between the funnels. The projectiles were stored in single easily accessible racks around the gun and I am thinking the propellant was in wooden boxes nearby too. Still have to confirm that.


Were they bag guns, though?

If they were, which I doubt, then perhaps. But we're talking about 102mm QF guns that IIRC, like their American counterparts, probably used self-contained metallic cartridges—which was part of what made quick-firing guns of such dimensions possible in the first place.

But this is just a shot in the dark from a bloke without much knowledge of naval guns beyond playing World of Warships and reading the Destroyermen series... :wave_1:

_________________
Sean Nash, ACG (aircraft camo gestapo)

On the ways:
1/200 Trumpeter HMS Nelson
1/700 Tamiya USS Yorktown CV-5

In the stash:
1/35 Italiari PT-109
1/35 Tamiya "Pibber" Patrol Boat
1/350 Trumpeter USS Yorktown CV-10


Report this post
Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 108 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6  Next

All times are UTC - 6 hours [ DST ]


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 7 guests


You can post new topics in this forum
You can reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group