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 Post subject: Re: 1/700 ULCC Ti Europe
PostPosted: Sat Jul 06, 2019 2:46 am 
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Clean, straight, neat and precise : well done !
I like as well your interesting comments about the very specific technologies used on these giant ships... just fascinating.
Cheers from nearby France.
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 Post subject: Re: 1/700 ULCC Ti Europe
PostPosted: Mon Aug 19, 2019 2:29 pm 
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Thanks Stephane. Not as sharp as it could be, but we keep trying :heh:

So finished the bulwark and what I call "layer 1" of the detailing. Now applied a first coat of primer to the deck. I chose grey to get rid of a lot of pencil lines and contrasts (as well with the previously grey painted sides due to the spray putty).

After one coat of primer I sanded some parts again and removed some paint stains. I contemplated the idea of using the small drilled holes under the supports for additional beams. This was my initial idea, but since I don't have the time to do this kind of things and will probably not really stand out with the piping on top, I didn't proceed.

I then applied the second coat of primer (looks a bit like an injection molded kit now), so now she's ready for the first coat of white. The step after that will be further detailing, adding the small oil spill lockers etc. amidships and the piping.


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 Post subject: Re: 1/700 ULCC Ti Europe
PostPosted: Sat Aug 24, 2019 3:15 pm 
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Small update:

After grey primer came the first coat of white primer, which was a succes. Then I started with "layer 02" on deck. All transverse piping that had to pass over layer 01 as well as some superstructures.
Centre manifold line is not yet fixed. She's last in order to have it perfectly in the middle. The gaps between are filled with more piping.


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 02, 2019 2:07 pm 
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Manifold transverse lines finished, finally started with the typical longitudinal piping. Seen a couple of models of these ships with awefully oversized piping, and I think that's a pitty. To avoid that appearance I'm using several sizes of wire.
A new issue I've discovered is that I'm not used to put these thin wires over such lengths and that they are not easy to keep straight.
Below you can see a solution for the first wires. Afterwards I inserted small pieces of 0.3mm wire between the previous fixed pipe and the next new pipe to install in order to keep everything parallel.


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File comment: If you look well, you can see the small pins between some of the piping. After the wire is glued, I remove these pins.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 05, 2019 11:47 am 
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And the longitudinal piping is as good as finished now. Small overview.
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And I've drawn the waterline on the hull, showing the massive size of the underwater body.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 05, 2019 10:48 pm 
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Nice work. Having gone from your humongous previous build to this smaller model, what are your thoughts about the ease of modelling in larger and smaller scales?

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Brilliant!

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 22, 2019 7:19 am 
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amazing build my friend.
small scale big details
incredible :thumbs_up_1: :thumbs_up_1:


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 23, 2019 3:50 am 
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Wow, beautiful construction

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 Post subject: Re: 1/700 ULCC Ti Europe
PostPosted: Fri Nov 01, 2019 4:30 am 
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Thanks for the comments guys.

Phil, the main issues for me when building two very different scales are:
- You try to put too much detail in the small scale, because you're used to it in the larger scale. Where before I would occasionally decide to leave something off due to the small size, I'm now trying to keep the same detailing level in 1/700 as I did on 1/100... Which of course makes it very difficult and often overscale.
- In larger scale you over detail as well, because I have the skill to build the tiny 1/700 things, I'm building each 1/100 detail as a separate "1/700 model". Which means it's very detailed, but takes very long to get anything done.
- 1/100 appears to be too difficult due to the long building time, switching back to 1/700 was a good thing to do, since I was getting demotivated by the long building time in 1/100. On the other hand I have continued in 1/100 as well and will probably switch back to that model soon (perhaps 1 more 1/700 build before that).

I've continued on this model. I'm currently finishing the accomodation block as well as some prominent deck features. I've added the water breaks, plates with holes that are there to deflect waves coming over the deck. Due to the sheer size of this ship, large waves coming over the deck would add such a weight to the structure that the deck might collapse. Therefore they added these wave deflectors to guide the water back overboard.
To keep my sanity, I'm adding the small frames (0.3mm thickness) on 1 water break each day. I'm also building the hose handling and storing cranes as well as other masts. Also the bollards have been added, preparing for the next coat of white primer.


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very high level modelling job :cool_1:


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 02, 2019 2:26 pm 
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And a small update.
Getting further towards the next coat of paint. Decided to go a little further before adding the next layer of white primer. At first I wanted to avoid "shadows" cast by taller object, but I guess I don't have to be too affraid of it, considering everything's white anyway.

First are the engine room fans. Although there is just a tiny edge, I decided to turn that small edge on the lathe. Getting them all exactly the same height was of course another challenge.
Below you can see the jig I used to get the smaller stems at the same height. I oversize them at first, then put them in a hole in a jig of the correct thickness, cut the excess material and then file to get it flush with the jig.

Although the ballast vents were not marked on any plans I deducted their positions from some good pictures and decided to add them as well. First I inserted 0.8mm brass wire pieces in pre-drilled holes. THen filed them to the correct height, again using a jig, this time 1mm thick.
Last addition were the vent heads, small disks of about 1mm thickness.

As you can see in some pics, she also received some vent masts as well as purge ports for the cargo tanks. I guess I'll carry on detailing until complete, before I do the next coat.

The only thing I'll probably add afterwards are the platforms with the foam guns, as they would really cast a shadow on the piping below them.


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 Post subject: Re: 1/700 ULCC Ti Europe
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Nice use of a jig like that. Must remember this for when I am stratchbuiling bollards again.


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