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PostPosted: Tue Nov 11, 2014 10:00 am 
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Neat project to create a virtual model. Maybe Jecobin has plans for the type 14. I don't know whether Jecobin's plans are traced and scaled from official drawings, or instead are reconstructions from photographs. Dean's Marine sells plans for 1/96 models but those have errors, such as the length of the bulwark along the fo'csle.
The RN type 14 frigates varied in the pilot house, in the initial armament with Bidder torpedo tubes, and in the presence of the aft 40mm gun. The three Indian frigates matched the final version of the RN design except no torpedo tubes.
Have you virtual-modeled other ships?

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2014 6:42 pm 
Hi Michael,

Unfortunately Jecobin don't do plans for the Type 14. Original plans from the NMM would be an option, except their charges are beyond my meager budget, esp when several plans are required. Therefore I'm on the hunt for other sources of accurate plans, or second-hand copies. I didn't know Dean's Marine sold plans separately, but I'm also keen to avoid errors.

Other models are on the virtual slipway (with aspirations for still more), all made from drawings and plans cobbled together from various sources, mostly second-hand.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2014 11:09 pm 
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Back in 2007 Dean's Marine sold Rob Kernaghan and me the assembly instruction plan for their kit of ASW frigate type 14 HMS Hardy:

< http://www.deansmarine.co.uk/shop/product_info.php/cPath/10_31/products_id/472 >

Along with photographs of actual ships, the above plan satisfied me as accurate enough for my model. http://finewaterline.com/ has a page in its gallery of small warships about how I modeled HMS Palliser. There you can see the Dean's Marine plan in small scale with my mark-ups for fabricating PE parts.

Despite fax-quality resolution, the most accurate drawing I found is in Norman Friedman's British Destroyers and Frigates, the Second World War and After.

The Dean's Marine plan represents, I believe: Dundas, Hardy, Keppel, Grafton, Murray.

Pellew, Russell, Exmouth, and the three Indian navy frigates featured larger but fewer windows in the pilot house.

Blackwood, Malcolm, Palliser, Duncan featured the same larger windows and initially mounted two pairs of torpedo tubes for Bidder ASW torpedoes. Exmouth was reported as mounting the Bidder tubes but I never found a photograph to confirm that.

In the late 1950s the Bidder tubes and the aft 40mm Bofors gun were deleted from the RN frigates.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 16, 2014 5:58 pm 
Did the Dean's Marine plan include a body plan for the hull???


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Re: Did the Dean's Marine plan include a body plan for the hull???

No, the Dean's Marine plan lacks the body plan for the hull. The outline of the main deck is inaccurate for the actual ship, but again Dean's product is the assembly instruction sheet for their kit.

For the outline of the main deck, I scaled my model from the sketch in Norman Friedman's book about RN destroyers and frigates since WW2. I did not model the underwater hull. The back cover of To Sail No More Part 3 from Maritime Books shows the underwater hull of the former HMS Keppel, beached awaiting scrapping.

Michael Purvis's paper "Post War RN Frigate and Guided Missile Destroyer Design 1944-1969" (Royal Institution of Naval Architects, 1974) shows the body plans for several ship designs but not of frigate type 14.

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