SS Nomadic, Titanic's Little Sister - 1/200 - 3D (Design)

[Fliger747]

Maybe mounted swiveled 180 deg? An issue occasionally with restorations which sometimes have to be viewed as a secondary source. A pretty small instrument at 1:200!

Cheers: Tom

[DrPR]

Pascal,

Was the "telegraph" on the fantail actually an Engine Order Telegraph (EOT)? If it was part of the emergency steering system it might have been a Rudder Angle Order Telegraph. That would make more sense that an EOT at the emergency steering location.

A Rudder Angle Order Telegraph would work just like an EOT but would be used to signal the desired rudder angle. The handle would be positioned to the same angle received from the pilot house to signal that the steering crew were responding to the order.

There are Rudder Angle Order Telegraphs on some ships. It would be a very simple matter to redesign an EOT to a Rudder Angle Order Telegraph.

Phil

[Iceman 29]

I think you're right Phil, that's probably the function of this device. The shape seems identical to the engine Chadburns but with only one handle. The color of the dial is completely white or black, instead of red and white.









I found this picture that would correspond to the apparatus in question:

https://sites.google.com/site/3wheelmot ... -of-a-ship

��A ship's engine order telegraph or E.O.T., sometimes also known by the marvellous term chadburn. This one belonged to an early twentieth century Italian cargo ship, and was made in Liverpool, I guess in the early 1900s. It is one of many fascinating exhibits in Trieste�s excellent Maritime Museum.��

[Iceman 29]

Well, it must have looked like this:

[DrPR]

That looks pretty good.

I would guess that the tube at the side was for a light source to illuminate the dial at night. Perhaps the face of the thing was glass with white painted or frosted letters (or clear) and black surround, and illuminated with light reflected from a mirror in the interior.

That is a wild guess!

Phil

[Iceman 29]

Yes that is, Phil.

Drawings of new elements on the aft deck, ventilation.

Installation of teak on the first aft deck, bulwark reinforcement pieces .

[Capit�o Norbert]

amazing project

[Iceman 29]

Obrigado, Capit�o Norbert!

[Iceman 29]

The design of the stern is coming to an end, the steering gear and the capstan remain to be designed.

The Harland & Wolff yard team is as motivated as ever, we have to respect the deadlines... �

[Fliger747]

Pascal: You have printed and painted some of these figures before on the Tanker project?

Cheers: Tom

[Iceman 29]

No Tom, never tested. I have to check if they are filled inside, if not it can be a problem at the printing.

The day's progress.

Installation of the probable cathodic protection (zinc anodes) on the propeller shaft chairs.

Drawing of the windlass. Luckily there are pictures taken probably in Le Havre, it is not in place yet in Belfast dry dock.

[Fliger747]

Interesting how different programs work. The one I use allows me to sketch a half profile of the winch head and then rotate the shape? Of course for unusual compound shapes it's pretty useless. That's an old timer wildcat head as might be found on a sailing ship with pockets for the wooden staves to use "manpower"... Not in the human resources department sense of the word, if manual reversion becomes necessary.

[JIM BAUMANN]

Remarkable progress and process!

It is quite astonishing!

JIM B

[Iceman 29]

@Tom , i had this function on Fusion, called Revolve. But i use the ��Loft�� function more powerfull.

@Jim, thank Jim!

I've made progress on the print setup. There are always little tricks to review to make sure everything goes well, and then you have to organize things to sort out the objects that will be printed with or apart from the shell itself. This step of control is essential for a successful printing of the half hull, we must not forget anything, it is usually paid cash with this 3D technique.

I started to put the sheets on the hull as well, it's a rather long work as for the bow. But here I have the technique that goes well, I'm no longer in the "how to do" phase?�"phase at this level. The rear is more complicated, of course, but since I have a better grasp of it, it will take a little less time.

The windlass is in its place. I'm missing a picture of the steering gear behind the windlass. It seems that it was protected by a shelter, a kind of box that can be dismantled to maintain it and make it work as a local backup.

A first tray of the aft parts is being printed.

[Iceman 29]

It smells like high precision in the morning.

The handrails and stairs are out very well, which is very good news. I'm going to do everything this way because the handrails are very specific with 5 bars on the upper deck, it doesn't exist in PE.

[Goodwood]

Pascal,

With 3D modeling skills of such quality, have you thought about getting in touch with the people at Titanic: Honor and Glory? I'm sure they'd jump at the chance to use your Nomadic.

[Fliger747]

Railings in 1:200 are nudging the edges. What side diameter did you use in the design program and how did they come out size wise in actuality? Certainly there are a lot of possibilities here, PE, unless specifically designed for every section of a model has limitations. My main beef against it is the difficulty of attaching it and the vulnerability to damage once in place.

Looking good! Cheers: Tom

[Iceman 29]

@Goodwood : my modeling is not done for games, but for 3D printing. I have reduced the details to print in 1/200 scale. The amazing work of Emil Besirevic is more adapted to games:

https://www.encyclopedia-titanica.org/c ... ain.17108/



@Tom
Diameter is 0,3 mm. I had to do test at 0,2. I' m suprising, it's not too fragile (Eleggo r�sine standard).



The work on this aft part is now almost finished, there is still one more box to be done for the steering gear.

I have printed a test hull. It's pretty good. The Nomadic A is missing on the stern and the letters don't stand out enough, you always have to plan for painting. The A was not printed because it must not be touching the bulwark enough. It is rectified.

I couldn't help but put the Nomadic in position alongside the edge of the Titanic to motivate myself as there is still a long way to go to complete this double project.

The Nomadic will be held to the Titanic by two strings of piano wire inserted in each ship. Everything will be dismountable. The Nomadic or the Titanic can be exposed alone when needed. The piano ropes will have another function, that of driving the 12 v continuous from one ship to the other for the lighting of the Nomadic, the more on one of the ropes the less on the other. No unsightly wires therefore.

Once the piano strings are removed, the holes will be two of the many water outlets on both ships.

[Fliger747]

Pascal:

The Nomadic standing with it's fantail in the air seems rather and Ironic statement for Titanic's little sister. Glad the experiment worked out. Sometimes it seems in printing that it take's two to get a good one. There are small variations in details. The comparison gives a demonstration of the size of Titanic, she literally was. I printed some stokes litters that I designed in 1:120 in 1:192 without modification and they cane out very nicely, gossamer like!

Cheers! Tom

[Iceman 29]

Beginning of the upper deck design.





A small problem with the width of the loading doors.



Modified design for doors.

I focused on the funnel, I have a lot of pictures of details, so it's easier to do.

It is almost finished, a few rivets still to be put here and there.