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Author: | Mickosh3 [ Tue May 07, 2013 11:34 am ] |
Post subject: | 1/200 Bismarck. Part 1. The hull. |
Hallo, shipmodellers! Let me introduce the important part of my Bismarck. A short specification of my (future) model: Scale ..................................1:200 Functionality.......................floating, RC Detailization.......................as detailed, as possible Reference time....................24.05.1941, approx. 5:50 Now the hull is ready for final painting and ...... your criticism! Yes, I am ready to get all notes about distortions, mistakes , etc. It is very important before the painting! I intend to show my hull (the hull and upper deck) a section by section - with comments. Also I am ready to explane all technological methods I used Let me start with a few common views: Best wishes! |
Author: | Capitão Norbert [ Tue May 07, 2013 1:32 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: 1/200 Bismarck. Part 1. The hull. |
Hi Mickosh very good aspect pretension for what camouflage? some work on superestructure? |
Author: | Mickosh3 [ Tue May 07, 2013 2:41 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: 1/200 Bismarck. Part 1. The hull. |
Hi, Norbert! About the camouflage: it should be strongly according with reference data - 24.05.1941 Yes, now I work with superstructures- and I guess, they will look unusual ! With best regards - Anatoly |
Author: | Capitão Norbert [ Tue May 07, 2013 3:40 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: 1/200 Bismarck. Part 1. The hull. |
Mickosh3 wrote: Hi, Norbert! About the camouflage: it should be strongly according with reference data - 24.05.1941 Yes, now I work with superstructures- and I guess, they will look unusual ! With best regards - Anatoly i will waiting to see more of your work |
Author: | Fliger747 [ Tue May 14, 2013 2:02 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: 1/200 Bismarck. Part 1. The hull. |
Some information as to the construction and material of the hull and deck? Horisho! Tom |
Author: | 109 [ Tue May 14, 2013 2:14 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: 1/200 Bismarck. Part 1. The hull. |
Good work Anatoly! Bye, Bernd. |
Author: | Mickosh3 [ Tue May 14, 2013 9:31 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: 1/200 Bismarck. Part 1. The hull. |
Hallo, friends! Bernd, my work is under big influece from your one! About materials: the main material of the hull is wood (I used the Hachette partwork as a base - it wasn't a good idea- but now it is too late to change something).The deck base is fibreglass panel (base material for PCB), the deck surface- the wood from pupil lines (I think, it is pear tree) With best regards- Anatoly |
Author: | Channell [ Sat May 18, 2013 6:45 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: 1/200 Bismarck. Part 1. The hull. |
Really excellent work so far! I'm excited to see where you go from here! |
Author: | Mickosh3 [ Sun May 19, 2013 10:47 am ] | ||||||
Post subject: | Re: 1/200 Bismarck. Part 1. The hull. | ||||||
Hallo, friends! Thanks for nice comments! I hope, my “scratches “ will be usefull! Now - the section II views. Have a nice viewing! Anatoly
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Author: | Neptune [ Sun May 19, 2013 3:41 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: 1/200 Bismarck. Part 1. The hull. |
That's some brilliant work you're doing!!! |
Author: | Mickosh3 [ Mon May 20, 2013 9:13 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: 1/200 Bismarck. Part 1. The hull. |
Hi, Neptune, thank you! I'm going to keep this way to very end! |
Author: | Fliger747 [ Tue May 21, 2013 8:37 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: 1/200 Bismarck. Part 1. The hull. |
I am reluctant to criticize such an elegant and detailed hull, but it does appear that the stern in the rudder area and aft may be more V bottomed than the accompanying photo suggests. Might be the lighting? T |
Author: | Mickosh3 [ Wed May 22, 2013 10:21 am ] | |||
Post subject: | Re: 1/200 Bismarck. Part 1. The hull. | |||
Hi, Fliger! Yes, you are right-there is a small distortion. As I wrote before, I took the Hachette partwork as a base. It was my big mistake-the partwork has lots of distortions! I spend many time to correct them-if it was possible. Also in the area you mentioned. Please, have a look at picture 1. It is a part of very detailed drawings - and the section marked "A" shows us a almost flat surface close the ruders. Also, pay attention on the line marked "B". The line is "unlogical" - on my opinion . I tried to improve the distortion - but without a complete success! The picture 2 shows the area in more "profitable" light. With best regards- Anatoly
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Author: | 109 [ Wed May 22, 2013 1:12 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: 1/200 Bismarck. Part 1. The hull. |
The frames around the rudders are ok, but the frames towards the stern are too pointed at the bottom creating a "sharp" edge at the center keel line. See the small insert of the BA photo adjacent to the model stern in one of the posting above. Also the MES was located differently on the stern. But these points are hard to correct with all surface details already in place. Still beautiful work! |
Author: | Mickosh3 [ Thu May 23, 2013 9:19 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: 1/200 Bismarck. Part 1. The hull. |
109 wrote: The frames around the rudders are ok, but the frames towards the stern are too pointed at the bottom creating a "sharp" edge at the center keel line. See the small insert of the BA photo adjacent to the model stern in one of the posting above. Also the MES was located differently on the stern. But these points are hard to correct with all surface details already in place. Still beautiful work! Hi, Bernd! Yes, I have (I had) no information about the MES position on the stern. Could you, please, mark (approx.) the right MES position on my picture no 2 (see above) - by the Paint - accordind with your opinion or with your info? With best regards- Anatoly |
Author: | 109 [ Thu May 23, 2013 12:46 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: 1/200 Bismarck. Part 1. The hull. |
Hi Anatoly, the MES is parallel to the lower edge of the Stern armor belt and Ends at Frame 10.5 (my knowledge) |
Author: | Mickosh3 [ Thu May 23, 2013 1:18 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: 1/200 Bismarck. Part 1. The hull. |
Bernd, but the MES system is a coil! It cann't end at the hull- in the case it loses the physical reason - the magnetic field is shorted! What is your opinion? With best regards- Fnatoly |
Author: | 109 [ Thu May 23, 2013 2:09 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: 1/200 Bismarck. Part 1. The hull. |
It also ends at Frame 230 and does not go around the stem. |
Author: | 109 [ Fri May 24, 2013 2:06 am ] | ||
Post subject: | Re: 1/200 Bismarck. Part 1. The hull. | ||
Mickosh3 wrote: Bernd, but the MES system is a coil! It cann't end at the hull- in the case it loses the physical reason - the magnetic field is shorted! What is your opinion? With best regards- Fnatoly Hi, it is physically not necessary to run the electric leads (probably aluminum wires?) around the ship´s ends because the hull is made of steel which is a very good magnetic conductor. Thus the magnetic field goes around the ship´s ends without a problem. Additionally both degaussing cabels are relatively close to each other and the ship´s ends. Also the MES is not a classic coil, it consits of leads running parallel to each other. The degaussing cable below the anchors etc. would be prone to damage. HTH, Bernd.
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